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McCollum to file lawsuit against health care bill
Abcactionnews ^ | 3/21/10 | Chad Cookler

Posted on 03/21/2010 9:30:36 PM PDT by NoobRep

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To: tcrlaf
These would be valid PERSONAL lawsuits against her from many different jurisdictions. I don't believe such lawsuits can be paid for with taxpayer monies.

51 posted on 03/21/2010 9:58:42 PM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: NoobRep

I will be personally suing the Federal Govt.


52 posted on 03/21/2010 9:58:46 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: pyx

What’s to prevent them from using tax dollars to defend themselves in these lawsuits like Obama is using the AG’s office to defend himself against the eligibility lawsuits?


53 posted on 03/21/2010 9:59:01 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: NoobRep

Thanks for the link — I got their email a short time ago. A group is going to match up to $450 all donations to fund this lawsuit.


54 posted on 03/21/2010 9:59:24 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Rick Perry - TX Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 !)
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To: Terry Mross

Can the AG’s get this fast tracked to SCOTUS?

We got MCCAIN-Feingold thrown out but it took too long.

MCCAIN-Feingold help bring about Dem Congress 2006/2008 and Obama 2008. And people don’t say it was bad GOP members etc etc. It was the TV Newsmedia attacking Repubs 100% 24x7x365 while they give Obama, Rangel, Dood and others a FREE pass on everything.


55 posted on 03/21/2010 9:59:30 PM PDT by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: jerry557
No, in this case the Federal use of the interstate commerce clause, their 'coverall' for interference in the State's, will have no standing.

The Federal Gov't can't force individuals to buy something.

56 posted on 03/21/2010 9:59:37 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: jpsb

There was no tyranny in 1860-Lincoln won a fair election.


57 posted on 03/21/2010 10:00:22 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: NoobRep

Thank you Bill McCollum.


58 posted on 03/21/2010 10:02:42 PM PDT by Armed Civilian ("Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.")
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To: american colleen
It might if it adds to their already unsubstandanable burden.

That is why Brown was elected as Senator.

59 posted on 03/21/2010 10:02:50 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: LibertyRocks
What’s to prevent them from using tax dollars to defend themselves in these lawsuits like Obama is using the AG’s office to defend himself against the eligibility lawsuits?

I am not a lawyer and I may be mistaken but, these would be valid PERSONAL lawsuits against Pelosi and other individuals named in separate personal lawsuits from many different jurisdictions. I don't believe such lawsuits can be paid for with taxpayer monies.

60 posted on 03/21/2010 10:03:00 PM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: DanielRedfoot

That was funny — at least I can still laugh tonight!


61 posted on 03/21/2010 10:03:00 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Rick Perry - TX Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 !)
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To: Frantzie

There is only one thing that needs to be taken out that will result in the whole bill collapsing, and it is the mandate to purchase government approved health insurance.


62 posted on 03/21/2010 10:03:32 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: NoobRep

WOW. I have been advocating this for days.


63 posted on 03/21/2010 10:03:43 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: jerry557
Nothing is going to happen. The courts will simply dismiss it saying federal law trumps state law.

And if that happens, the time has long since come for states to say, "Guess what, we don't care." It's time for we the people to say, "We don't care." We have been like frogs in a slowly heating pot of water for four decades. Now the water's boiling and if we don't hop out immediately, it won't matter.

MM (in TX)

64 posted on 03/21/2010 10:05:15 PM PDT by MississippiMan (http://gogmagogblog.wordpress.com/)
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To: TheLurkerX

Why do you think the Supreme Court will throw it out? On what grounds? Di you think they will refuse to hear from 38 states?


65 posted on 03/21/2010 10:05:37 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: jerry557
"This is not a victory for any one party...
This isn't radical reform, but it is major reform." Obama said at the White House shortly after the House voted.

To our Prez I say...


A short Youtube Video -- "What are you... a doomsday machine..."

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Pelosi

66 posted on 03/21/2010 10:05:57 PM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: All; NotJustAnotherPrettyFace; pyx; my small voice

Hate to burst your bubble, but that is NOT a “PERSONAL” lawsuit. See the words “in his official capacity”? That’s the difference.

Our tax dollars will be used to defend all of those named individuals as he is suing them AS representatives of the Fed. Government - NOT as individual citizens.

Not saying this lawsuit shouldn’t go forward. Just that one should understand the difference between a PERSONAL lawsuit and one filed against an agent of the government.

CHECK NUMBER 7 in the complaint which reads as follows:
“Each of the defendants is sued in his or her official capacity only.”

Again, they are not being PERSONALLY sued.


67 posted on 03/21/2010 10:06:39 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: pyx

Can you sue an agent of the government PERSONALLY for acting in his or her “official capacity”? I don’t believe you can. Would be interested in hearing how you would PERSONALLY hold these people accountable for real damages.


68 posted on 03/21/2010 10:08:33 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: pyx

Sorry — we were posting “over” each other... I understand where you are coming from, I just thought there were laws to protect our elected officials from personal lawsuits of that sort. I am not a lawyer either — just trying to understand where you all are coming from in regards to the personal lawsuits. I can’t see how one could even be filed against any of them personally.


69 posted on 03/21/2010 10:12:21 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: jerry557
The court will not interfere with how laws are passed in Congress. Its the separation of powers thing. They may look at enforceability of certain parts as it affects individual constitutional rights but, McCain Feingold has been law for 10+ years and is still not fully repealed. Once a law, always a law. Name one stinking piece of legislation that has ever been repealed! Even the Spanish American War tax on telephones took over 100 YEARS to repeal. This is now the law of the land and we will own this for the rest of your lives. I suggest you encourage your children to migrate to freer nations with lower tax rates. America, the great experiment, is over...
70 posted on 03/21/2010 10:12:30 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: fortheDeclaration
Something I found out this week about Romney-Care in MA - at least when he was in office you had to pay something towards the mandated insurance - once he was gone, it went 'all free' which is bankrupting Massachusetts (another reason Scott Brown was elected).

Anyway, please God something is done here with Obama-Care and the gov't takeover of college loans... otherwise, this country is doomed.

And how about the IRS monitoring all the payments - what the heck!

71 posted on 03/21/2010 10:12:44 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: RoseofTexas; All
“I’ve lost all faith in men...THERE will be NOTHING that can save this country..it’s a done deal. The courts are set to serve the communist...they will rule for the evil rats. I HAVE LOST FAITH.”

In the words of John Paul Jones, “we have just begun to fight”. Get down on your knees, pray to God to deliver us from evil, and give us wisdom, courage, and stamina to face the long road ahead.

Then square your shoulders, and get ready to continue the fight. Never give up, and we will overcome.

72 posted on 03/21/2010 10:13:28 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: jerry557
No, it's not over, and I'm getting sick of hearing of people drinking and crying over this.

If we as private citizens of the United States of America are even willing to entertain the notion of the legitimacy of this legislation, and are too cowardly to accept the prospect of consequence of ignoring it on the basis of its violation of the enumeration of powers in Article 1 Section 8... then we must ask ourselves a penetrating question: Do we really deserve a free republic?

73 posted on 03/21/2010 10:14:32 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: NoobRep

The SCOTUS may have the last laugh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


74 posted on 03/21/2010 10:14:50 PM PDT by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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To: american colleen
No, it's not over.

We may have to start another country. We may even have to die! But defeat is not an option... unless we are cowards unworthy of freedom.

75 posted on 03/21/2010 10:16:06 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: jerry557

The Federal government cannot mandate that someone buy a product and if they don’t, fine and imprison them. This is not like SS or anything else that we have ever seen. Every resident of this country must buy government approved health care insurance. It is unprecedented.


76 posted on 03/21/2010 10:16:15 PM PDT by kabar
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To: jerry557

Yeah, right.


77 posted on 03/21/2010 10:16:35 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: April Lexington

“Name one stinking piece of legislation that has ever been repealed!”

Prohibition. Just get the right representatives and senators in place.


78 posted on 03/21/2010 10:20:23 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: April Lexington

Prohibition.


79 posted on 03/21/2010 10:20:45 PM PDT by kabar
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To: RoseofTexas
From 1776...

After a token resistance, American forces abandoned New York, retreating northwards. Howe took the city, but had failed to deal a knockout blow to the rebels. A month later he mounted another amphibious assault against the American positions north of New York, on the Harlem Heights.

The patriots were beaten, and Fort Washington captured, but the Americans were not cowed by these setbacks, and scurried back to White Plains. The American cause now seemed to be in serious decline. However, Washington advanced across the Delaware, surprising a Hessian detachment at Trenton on Boxing Day 1776. This developed into a general engagement between the forces of Cornwallis and Washington on New Year's Eve, and the Americans were bundled back to Princeton where the British were checked, and in consequence abandoned New Jersey.

So Rose, take heart. Get a good night's sleep and get up tomorrow ready to fight on. This war is far from over.

80 posted on 03/21/2010 10:28:01 PM PDT by The Citizen Soldier (It's not enough to know the right thing to do. We have to do the right thing.)
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To: rbosque
The SCOTUS may have the last laugh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, and if they do, I think they should render their decision is a courtroom filled with true patriots, with the President seated in a chair right up front, with the instructions he must sit and may not comment or mouth any disagreement, while the patriots all stand and cheer.

81 posted on 03/21/2010 10:32:33 PM PDT by The Citizen Soldier (It's not enough to know the right thing to do. We have to do the right thing.)
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To: NoobRep

Bruning listens to Nebraskans.


82 posted on 03/21/2010 10:32:44 PM PDT by DHSMostWanted (ByeBye Benedict Nelson in 2012.)
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To: ReneeLynn

Pennsylvania is one of the two states in our union whose attorneys give more money to the republicans than the democrats.

Care to guess the other?


83 posted on 03/21/2010 10:33:16 PM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism is a Socialist Disease)
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To: The Citizen Soldier; RoseofTexas

I will ditto your recommendation that you (Rose) read a little American History and fortify yourself. The battle goes not to the weak.


84 posted on 03/21/2010 10:33:16 PM PDT by Marie2 (Ask yourself: "What does the Left want me to do?" Then go do the opposite.)
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To: The Citizen Soldier

That’s right. We’re not of the caliber of character of those brave men, but we’re p!ssed, and some of us are ready to fight and die if that’s what it comes to. God and His commandments will not be mocked.


85 posted on 03/21/2010 10:34:46 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: RoseofTexas
Great men once created this country. Great men will restore it.

We have not yet begun to fight.

86 posted on 03/21/2010 10:36:09 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Frantzie

Virginia’s AG (Cuccinelli) is going to sue also. He says Virginia can fast track their suit. He called the process by a name but I don’t remember what that is.


87 posted on 03/21/2010 10:36:38 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby ( I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did. Yogi Berra)
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To: RoseofTexas

“Never, Never, Never, Never give up.” ~ Winston Churchill


And as Jesus said: “Luke 18:7-8

“And will not God bring about justice for his chosen ones, who cry out to him Day and Night?

Will HE keep putting them off? I tell you, He will see that they get justice, and quickly.

However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?”


Isaiah 40:30-31 reads, “Even youths grow tired and weary, and young men stumble and fall; BUT - those who Hope in the Lord Will Renew their Strength. They will Soar on wings like eagles; they will Run and Not grow Weary, they will Walk and Not be Faint.”


And also: “And there was a widow in that town who Kept Coming to him with the plea, ‘Grant me justice against my adversary.’ [4] “For some time he refused. But finally he said to himself, ‘Even though I don’t fear God or care about men, [5] Yet Because this widow KEEPS Bothering me, I will see that she gets justice, so that she won’t eventually wear me out with her coming!’

In other Words - PRESS In - KEEP the FAITH!


88 posted on 03/21/2010 10:40:22 PM PDT by Anita1 ("Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.")
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To: Steely Tom
"Pennsylvania? WTH? You’ve got to be kidding me. I mean this in a good way, of course."

Pennsylvania's AG, Tom Corbett, is a Republican. He's also running for Governor in November. Rendell is term limited, so there will be a new governor in PA, no matter what. The November 2009 elections were overshadowed by what happened in VA and NJ, but they were a strong showing for the GOP in PA. Statewide judicial races went Republican, as did many county and local races.

I was in Harrisburg a month or so back in support of draft legislation supporting health care liberty. I don't have the paperwork at hand, but a constitutional amendment has been proposed. PA has two problematic senators and a bunch of big-city voters who skew our elections. However, we also have a lot of solid patriots here in the Cradle of Liberty. I might add that many tea party patriots in DC these last months have come down from PA on buses . . . we rolled up our sleeves quite a while ago.

89 posted on 03/21/2010 10:47:43 PM PDT by Think free or die
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To: NoobRep
Damn dude. It’s a good thing the founding fathers didn’t carry your defeatist attitude.

It’s not over until the American people say it’s over. This is clearly unconstitutional.


Worth repeating with emphasis.
90 posted on 03/21/2010 10:48:25 PM PDT by CaptSkip
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Remember we walk by faith, not by sight! These ‘giants’ in the land are but grasshoppers. We will defeat them with Heavens aid.


91 posted on 03/21/2010 10:48:58 PM PDT by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: abigailsmybaby

Ken Cuccinelli is one of my favorites. He has the fire in the belly like Chris Christie in NJ.

Thanks and hopefully he can fast track the case. We need to get it thrown out like McCain-Feingold got thrown out.

Ken Cuccinelli 2012 for POTUS.


92 posted on 03/21/2010 10:49:32 PM PDT by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: Loud Mime

Massachusetts? I dunno.


93 posted on 03/21/2010 10:51:41 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: Retired Greyhound

Let’s fight and attack these Rats from multiple fronts and a million ways from Tuesday they won’t know which way to turn. Fight them good Patriots....


94 posted on 03/21/2010 10:53:58 PM PDT by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: Think free or die

Thanks TFOD.

I lived in PA for 9 years (Philly and suburbs of). I wonder if maybe this will wake up all the soccer moms? I kind of doubt it. Obama’s not Bill Clinton, though.

A few of them drove me nuts before they got married and became soccer moms. They drive me nuts still, but from a distance.


95 posted on 03/21/2010 10:55:30 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: jerry557

I understand your frustration and feel it too. But this is not over unless we roll over and let them win. This is very much the time to stand up against this usurper and his minions in Washington and really begin to fight. I think, in a perverse way, obama has done us a favor...he has united and excited the “silent majority” in a way I have never before seen. If we stay strong in conviction that this bill (and others obama has planned) is unconstitutional, we can beat him and the other socialists in this country. If we concede, we lose outright without even a real fight. I don’t intend to give them that satisfaction! (maybe it’s time for a to watch Mel Gibson’s The Patriot again :-))


96 posted on 03/21/2010 10:58:42 PM PDT by schoolmarm
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To: tflabo

Amen.


97 posted on 03/21/2010 11:02:05 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: NoobRep
Not California.


98 posted on 03/21/2010 11:02:19 PM PDT by americanophile (DeMint/Ryan '10)
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To: RoseofTexas

The War has just started.

This crap can be defunded by Congress by next year.
So get fired up.

Never trust a Democrat for anything.
Doing a Stupek has become a slogan to destroy the Dem this midterm.


99 posted on 03/21/2010 11:02:30 PM PDT by ncalburt (e)
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To: my small voice

Time to turn their smear campaign on Rush...

I propose a set of RAT cards, the way they had it for Saddam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most-wanted_Iraqi_playing_cards


100 posted on 03/21/2010 11:04:52 PM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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