Skip to comments.One Thing That's 100% Guaranteed: The Healthcare Bill Will NEVER Be Repealed
Posted on 03/22/2010 7:15:03 AM PDT by blam
One Thing That's 100% Guaranteed: The Healthcare Bill Will NEVER Be Repealed
Mar. 22, 2010, 9:36 AM
Already Republicans plan on introducing a bill this week to repeal last night's historic healthcare vote.
Obviously that's going nowhere.
But looking out, Republicans will probably try to run on repeal in the runup until November. It's possible that will play okay at the ballot (we don't know) but anyone who thinks this is a realistic prospect is smoking something illegal.
First of all, to repeal the vote would be just as difficult legislatively as passing healthcare was, so just think of how hard that was. Republicans would need 60 pro-repeal votes in the Senate to defeat a Democratic filibuster. And remember, they'd need a President who wouldn't veto the bill (i.e. not Obama or any Democrat).
But even that's putting too fine a point on it. Here's the real story, and it gets down to the fact that this new bureaucratic superstructure is now permanently ossified into our federal government.
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I guess that’s what George Washington said in Valley Forge. I can’t believe this defeatism. The bill may not actually be repealed, but it can be substantially weakened through piecemeal legislation after 2013. Increasing tax exempt MSAs, private contacting, rescinding the taxes are popular measures that be passed.
We will have a day of reckoning with the budget otherwise. And when we do reach the witching hour, this health care bill will not even matter, it will be a worthless promise. I doubt this health care bill will ultimately withstand a violent revolution, because that is more likely than some seamless transition to Euro-socialism.
I agree with this 100%.
Republicans are what? POLITICIANS!
What does this bill do? It creates a government structure for more political favors and jobs. Do you honestly think that politicians will limit their job prospects?
Unless this monstrosity is either repealed or killed in the Courts, it will set a precedent for marching America down the road towards Marx and Engels and Obama knows that - its his ultimate goal.
The Bill MUST be repealed and rhetoric like this is foolish and suicidal with respect to our national purpose, unless the author of this piece agrees with Obama. But I know nothing about the author.
Benefits CAN be dealt with by “grandfathering” in any people who are actually “benefited” - and I think the bill itself only becomes effective in a few years.
Most Americans realize the “benefits” of this thing are outweighed by the problems and new replacement bill which corrects those things which need correction, while eliminating the socialist poison the Democrats added, is very feasible.
And the GOP had better do just that or find themselves without a constituency.
“At some point the money has to run out.”
And at this rate it won’t take long at all.
“One good thing about the bill is the taxes and penalties start right away but the benefits dont start until 2114.
It could be repealed in 2112 if Chairman O is defeated”
Oh crap, 0 is going to be an office another 100 years? He’s the new Castro
It's the truth. When has the GOP ever repealed any entitlement? It has NEVER HAPPENED.
Scorched Earth Politics. Nothing gets passed - nothing - until HCR is repealed. No budgets, nothing. Show the Left what harball really is.
Politicians have been stomping all over the Constitution for eons!
Yeah, we should probably just give up and accept it. /s
The Assault Weapons Ban was never going away, either.
Maybe but it may be declared unconstitutional if enough AG’s & governors sign on to the suit that will run the instant O signs the bill.
It is not healthcare, it is “Health Control”.
We just need 50 U.S. Senators and a conservative President to get rid of this crap of a bill through the Reconciliation Process.
The demonrats called down the thunder and it’s coming down on their heads.
NEVER say NEVER.
Neither can I, and neither would Washington have:
If all else fails, I will retreat up the valley of Virginia, plant my flag on the Blue Ridge, rally around the Scotch-Irish of that region, and make my last stand for liberty amongst a people who will never submit to British tyranny whilst there is a man left to draw a trigger.
George Washington, at Valley Forge.
Then the country will go bankrupt, and we will see the US default on its sovereign debt, like some retarded third-world banana republic.
I am hoping that it will fall before a challenge in the courts. Even if the whole thing doesn’t go, I think we’re going to see some key parts of it declared unconstitutional.
The rest of the job will then consist of amending or defunding the remaining parts of it out of existence. Oh, and figuring out where to hold Barry’s impeachment proceedings and subsequent criminal trial...
My neighbor is a 30 year immigrant from New Zealand...he's thinking about moving to China.
Let us all take our country back from the evil doers. We can do this. Make it happen. Rise up!
I think that one house of Congress could simply refuse any appropriations for the whole program. It would take more guts than one usually sees in politics, with all sorts of screaming and name-calling in the MSM and from the socialists and commies, but it could be done.
Another scenario: Wait five years, and when the whole thing is bust, no one will be able to make the program work, and a complete overhaul of the country will happen., That is the hard way, but it may be the only way.
Our biggest allies may be the slugs who benefit from this bill. Yes, when something is free, it is always used wastefully and inefficiently. The supposed beneficiaries will utterly break the system.
I am in favor of civil disobedience against this socialist healthcare, but whatever I could do in this line is as nothing compared to the damage the users of the program will do on their own, without thinking, and just by the nature of things. This program will not work, and if we can survive the damage it causes, eventually it will destroy itself.
One place to put our energy is in continuously educating those around us. Don’t let anyone shift blame for the distaster which is coming. Teach your kids economics and history. Teach them about the Constitution, and how it should be interpreted.
I will annoy my liberal friends more. After all, they have been annoying me for years, and I generally restrain myself because I am trying to be nice, and I assume that eventually they will grow up. Well, from now one I will be somewhat irritating. No insults, but I will relentlessly put things in perspective.
That was going to happen before this HC bill passed. It is just a matter of when.
No they would not. With a simple majority, the senate would have it in their power to change the rules (the nuclear option). The dems would have done that this time if they thought it politically expedient. Also, sixty votes could include dems who are fighting for their lives. The political landscape might look very different for them if they are an unpopular minority. Furthermore, a simple majority in the house could simply not approve funding for any of this. The question is, will they have the balls. I think not. But this should be what we push for in Congress. States should clog up the courts with law suites and we should work for a constitutional amendment. I think that is the best shot but now is the time to push hard. The longer this stays the more futile the effort will become.
I am not optimistic
Afflicted with hopelessism.
The author is right. Congress itself will never repeal this. Even if the GOP had overwhelming majorities. They have a strong history of pandering, too, only at a slightly lower level. There is no cause for optimism, and only a slight hope that the Supreme Court will begin doing their duty which they have been neglecting to do all along. This whole government monstrosity should have been dismantled by the courts ages ago.
If the Elder Race of Men can defeat the Priests of the Temples of Syrinx, we can repeal this monstrosity ...
If we do things right this bill will be rendered ineffectual. Such as the 15 state attorney generals who are suing to block the insurance mandate. With no mandate KenyanKommieKare is dead because that money conveyor belt grinds to a halt. That conveyor belt that takes money out your pocket and gives it to KommieKare stooges (gov’t employees) to spend (gross favoritism) on their family and friends
This same kind of favoritism and bribes goes on in SS offices, so I have been told. Such as to get a disability claim in. I have never been in an SS office
The author is full of shit. Sure, it will be tough if not impossible to repeal it. To listen to him, I guess we may as not try anything. Prohibition took 12 years to repeal, and it was even a constitutional amendment. We have to at least try. Sheesh.
If you re-read my post, we’re in the same choir.
I have an acquaintance who, knowing that he was going to declare bankruptcy, maxed out his credit lines in order to keep juggling things for awhile. He was into banks for over $160k and was going to show them a thing or two.
The USA in 2010 just did the same thing as that sleazebag did.
Maybe you haven't noticed, but the character of Americans has devolved during the last 40 years or so. Things that were nearly reflexive long ago are now looked at as quaintly archaic. I see zero reason for optimism. Zero.
They would not be doing it for themselves, they would be doing it to benefit their Democrat Party, for generations to come.
They can always benefit from am Ambassadorship, Cabinet Post, or other perks.
I think it will.
This guy is an idiot.
The Republicans can repeal Mengelecare through "the Slaughter rule" and "reconciliation". The Republicans are slow, to be sure, but they usually learn something every time the rats find a lower sewer to muck around in.
Yeah. He would be a Republican today, albeit a RINO, a Republican nonetheless.
I thought that I read somewhere on FR that Linseed said if DictatorCare is rammed through, R support for any amnesty legislation would be off the table, words to that effect. I wonder if for once, he meant it. Just call me “Charlie Brown”.
Note to Business Insider: Mind your OWN “business.” You obviously do not know jack about the American people. To quote a recent dictate by a less than honorable individual...
“We will go through the gate. If the gate is closed, we will go over the fence. If the fence is too high, we will pole vault in. If that doesn’t work, we will parachute in...”
But we are going to get this OBAMANATION repealed for the American people, for their own personal health and economic security.
Get it through your thick skulls: Freedom NEVER surrenders, it may be set back a step or two, but it NEVER surrenders.
And here, a quote from another who knew the awesome burden of defending freedom during its darkest hour:
“...we shall fight on the beaches,
we shall fight on the landing grounds,
we shall fight in the fields and in the streets,
we shall fight in the hills;
we shall never surrender...”
Wait till you see what employers will be doing about this. Presently they will be fined $750 per person if they don’t provide health care for their workers. My plan costs at least double that ...... wanna guess how quickly companies cut health care for their employees? They’ll save lots of money just by paying the yearly fine.
Yes, I believe he said it would be very hard to get it passed. I can see him getting pressure from the Republican leadership to stop this amnesty garbage.
Sen. Joe McCarthy, was right and for more than the past 40 years, socialism and communism has extended is talons into the entertainment (propaganda) industry, academia, and most destructive the Democrat Party.
What has recently taken place in Texas dealing with books that will soon be entering the school system, and Lyz Cheney, calling the Lawyers defending the terrorists exactly what they are, and all the Home schooling taking place, and the American patriots taking to the streets to such a large number, make me more optimistic that I have ever been, Conservative America is engaged.