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tatown | 3/22/10 | tatown

Posted on 03/22/2010 8:36:33 PM PDT by tatown

If someone were looking to purchase a revolver (.357 or .41 Mag) or a semi (9mm or 45) what would you recommend? Budget < $700.00.


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To: tatown

a Sig of course


101 posted on 03/22/2010 11:21:06 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: tatown
As another poster said Glock, HK, Beretta, Sig are all top brands that would be fine choices.

So many brands and styles I think you really have to decide on a few key questions before you make a selection.

Metal or Polymer? To my eye polymers tend to be ugly things. I am not a Glock fan - but there are few handguns that can take more abuse or perform better in a non-pristine state.

Semi-auto or revolver? A good quality, well lubed semi should not present any significant reliability issues. I clean and lube my guns THOROUGHLY after each use.

Caliber? 9mm is very popular - and generally what I would suggest. If single shot man-stopping power is important then a .45 is a great choice. The 9mm will be cheaper to shoot, and without practice caliber may be a moot point.

Personally I like Beretta's.

For a polymer the PX4 Storm is a nice looking handgun:

I use a 92 FS Inox ($650 in black, $750 for Inox):


102 posted on 03/23/2010 12:11:59 AM PDT by dgroundhog
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To: tatown

Taurus .357 revolver...works as good as any and save your money...Rossi too for that matter....buy the one that feels good.

Automatic?

you’re a man...get nothing less than a .40..

Glock trigger safeties ain’t safeties

again...if money counts buy a Taurus with side safety to go with a trigger non safety

if money is flush then buy a nice Kimber .45

or any finger pointing Steyr or Sig Sauer

that is just for starters...

I love anything 1911 style....


103 posted on 03/23/2010 12:16:05 AM PDT by wardaddy (trouble is coming)
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To: tatown

For the house, get a shotgun (Mossberg 590A1 or Remington 870).

For carry, consider a 357 SIG semi-automatic. It has kill power of a .40 but with recoil slightly more than a 9mm — which means it is easier to control than a .40 caliber. The downside is that you cannot get cheap ammo for target practice like you can with a 9mm.


104 posted on 03/23/2010 12:45:11 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: smokingfrog

Yup. Mine has......errr....HAD the slightly longer 6&1/2” barrel. Balances a little better. I’m just kinda partial to single actions, and this one wasn’t too expensive, and gives me a choice of ammo. I mean gave. Just $636.00, and really you have three different weapons. You do have to get used to the single action, though. In my case it made for more accuracy. Cock, sight, shoot. Cock, sight shoot. Makes you take your time, which is good. Gun control is being able to hit what you aim at.


105 posted on 03/23/2010 1:18:54 AM PDT by Southbound ("A liar in public life is worse than a full-paid-up Communist, and I don't care who he is." - HST)
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To: shibumi

Mark XIX Desert Eagle in .50 Action Express

If you're going to put holes in something, may as well make them big holes.

106 posted on 03/23/2010 2:28:16 AM PDT by Semper Mark (Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms. - Aristotle)
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To: Myrddin
Do you carry the comp gun for self defense? Myself, I'd never carry a comped gun for SD. If you ever had to shoot from a position of retention you'd get all those hot gases and redirected muzzle blast right in the face and eyes.
107 posted on 03/23/2010 3:15:22 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: hoosiermama

First, what’s your price range?

Small hands usually means small frame. That means you’d probably want less recoil. A semi-automatic with a smaller cartridge would help achieve that. I’d look at the Ruger 380 LCP (it’s quite small) or the Beretta Tomcat in .32ACP.

The Walther PPK (the James Bond gun) is almost pretty small and comfortable.

Most of these guns are relatively inexpensive and ammunition is also relatively cheap and plentiful.


108 posted on 03/23/2010 3:58:14 AM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: tatown

Seriously?

You’re thinking of the wrong guns. Everyone’s first gun should be a .22 rifle or pistol, preferable the rifle.

Ruger’s Mark II .22 pistol is one of the most reliable and favorite of the line. The 10-22 rifle can’t be beat.


109 posted on 03/23/2010 4:08:29 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Choose Ye This Day; tatown

Excellent choice!!!!!!!!!!!


110 posted on 03/23/2010 4:10:51 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Free the Navy Seals)
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To: tatown
I didn't grow up around guns, and don't have any gun porn to share.

As a grownup, I've had the chance to shoot many different handguns, revolver and semiauto, and I own a 9mm and .357, although in the latter my ammo of choice is .38+P JHP.

You have to find a gun that you can practice with enough to become good and that you like to shoot.

It doesn't matter what you can do to a bad guy with a .44 Magnum if you can't hit him.

That can also be expressed as, "4 hits with a .22 beat 4 misses with a .44".

Lots of folks here deride the 9mm, but most people in this country who expire after being shot with a handgun are shot with a 9mm round.

I also like the .45ACP, but good hardware is expensive. I don't like to shoot 10mm/.40 S&W, but if you do, that's a good choice as well.

It's not the round, it's the shooter. Take an NRA course, try lots of guns, then decide.

111 posted on 03/23/2010 4:18:02 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Let tyrants shake their iron rod, and slavery clank her galling chains)
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To: flintsilver7

Thanks for the information.


112 posted on 03/23/2010 5:47:27 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: GregoTX; All

Another vote for the venerable 1911 .45 ACP here. Specifically, you could possibly buy a Kimber Custom II for that price of $700. You may never look at a non-1911 again;-)


113 posted on 03/23/2010 6:11:49 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: SoldierDad

You should be able to get a basic Kimber Custom II for $700.


114 posted on 03/23/2010 6:12:32 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: SoldierDad

I think prices are higher in California!

Prices for a Kimber Custom II can be had starting at around $700......not even close to $900 or $1000.


115 posted on 03/23/2010 6:13:40 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: wjcsux; All

116 posted on 03/23/2010 6:15:56 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: wjcsux
9mm- CZ-75 is hard to beat.

Gotta say I agree with this. For 9mm, this would be my recommendation. (Quality/Price cannot be beat) For .45 ACP, definitely a 1911.
117 posted on 03/23/2010 6:16:56 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: tatown

Ruger GP-100 .357 Magnum revolver and Ruger P-95 9mm pistol. If you want to keep the combined cost under $700, you can find both of these guns used, in excellent condition, for that amount.


118 posted on 03/23/2010 6:22:47 AM PDT by sig226 (Mourn this day, the death of a great republic. March 21, 2010)
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To: Salamander
[oh...wait...I just remembered. I didn’t own any guns in the first place...never mind]

doh!  Now I feel stupid, I did not own any either.  I had some pictures of guns, but no real ones.  You know, looking back, maybe the jackalope wasn't real either.

never mind

119 posted on 03/23/2010 6:40:05 AM PDT by softwarecreator (No more excuses ... we need to take our country back. Now.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
I just love my Glock 26.  I would've prefer a .45 or maybe a S&W .357, but the little Glock is sweet.

Well, that would be IF I had guns, of course, which I do not.  =)

120 posted on 03/23/2010 6:42:19 AM PDT by softwarecreator (No more excuses ... we need to take our country back. Now.)
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To: wjcsux

I have a CZ75B in .40 S&W. It’s probably the best gun for the money I’ve ever bought. In the early 90’s it was actually the first choice of sidearm for the SAS, but the British Gov’t didn’t want to contract with CZ until the political and economic situation in the former eastern bloc had stabilized, so they opted for Sig-Sauer instead.


121 posted on 03/23/2010 6:46:28 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Here’s another vote for a CZ-75B is you’re looking for the best bang for the buck. Proven design, very ergonomic for most people, and quite accurate out of the box.


122 posted on 03/23/2010 7:41:18 AM PDT by AngryJawa (Obama's Success is America's Failure)
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To: softwarecreator

” I had some pictures of guns,”

I sure hope you kept those pictures locked up and didn’t point them at anybody.

[nasty paper cuts....ick!]


123 posted on 03/23/2010 7:52:34 AM PDT by Salamander (....and I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.......)
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To: AngryJawa

In developing his “ideal” sidearm, the Bren Ten, Jeff Cooper based the design on the CZ75. In the world of pistolcraft, it’s pretty hard to find a more ringing endorsement than that...


124 posted on 03/23/2010 8:01:15 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Prices are a lot higher in CA


125 posted on 03/23/2010 8:05:42 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Yep, I’m sure CZ would rather have the ringing Cooper endorsemant than EAA/Tanfoglio’s “tribute”.


126 posted on 03/23/2010 8:23:26 AM PDT by AngryJawa (Obama's Success is America's Failure)
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To: tatown

My friend

If safety is your number one concern, following comments do not be taken lightly.

The best jam free gun that you can purchase is a revolver. If a bullet does not fire when you pull the trigger, to clear the jam you just pull the trigger. This gun is 100% jam free. They can be used in the home, on the road, CCW, CTW, If you’re injured in a gunfight you can still use it. You cannot clearly gun jam with a semi automatic if you have been shot in one arm,especially if you have a level III are level IV jam.

If you’ve been involved in a self defense situation 2000 times, Jon Lott says you will only pull the trigger one time.

I like Smith & Wesson and Taurus 5, 6 or 7 shot 38 revolvers,and I like 8 shot 22 Magnum revolvers. My personal favorite is a lightweight titanium 38 Taurus.

I’ve fired tens of thousands rounds of ammunition. Most of the toys represented in this thread are semi automatic and when you’re in a gunfight you want an absolutely fail proof firearm, a revolver. Yes a revolver.

Do you want to own a firearm any woman can operate,a revolver, a revolver.

Get the picture?

A snobby nose 2 inch revolver which you can carry in your pocket or your purse.


127 posted on 03/23/2010 8:25:38 AM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm)
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To: tatown; Jim Noble; CHICAGOFARMER
Beginners should start with NRA Certified training

I would recommend training
from an NRA Certified Instructor in

Refuse to be a victim
NRA training for women
Basic pistol
Personal protection in the home
and the newly released
Personal protection outside the home

NRA Gun Safety Rules

Always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction

Always keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot

Always keep the gun unloaded until ready to use

NRA T/C CRSO

128 posted on 03/23/2010 8:46:53 AM PDT by Uriel-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: GregoTX

Always in good taste.


129 posted on 03/23/2010 8:52:15 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Uri’el-2012

This will get you killed in some neighborhoods, and when on the street CCW.

Always keep the gun unloaded until ready to use???

Proper holsters,and trigger guards will allow proper and safe transportation and carry. 90% of training classes fail to train in holster logic, types, why, whatfor, etc.


130 posted on 03/23/2010 9:22:28 AM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER
This will get you killed in some neighborhoods, and when on the street CCW.

Always keep the gun unloaded until ready to use???

Proper holsters,and trigger guards will allow proper and safe transportation and carry. 90% of training classes fail to train in holster logic, types, why, whatfor, etc.

If you are prepared to "carry",
then you are ready to use the firearm.
then load it !

If the holster covers the trigger
then the gun in the holster is
pointed in a safe direction.

Training courses which cover holsters
are Personal Protection outside the Home.


131 posted on 03/23/2010 9:45:10 AM PDT by Uriel-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: ExSoldier
My choice in carry is either the 686+ or 640. Both loaded with 125 gr JHP (HydraShok). The comp revolvers and semi-autos are for target shooting and hunting. The 640 with shrouded hammer and the heft of stainless steel is controllable with .357mag. It keeps the pocket fuzz out of the action too.
132 posted on 03/23/2010 10:25:38 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Salamander; softwarecreator; proud_yank; Texas resident; shibumi; Squantos; Travis McGee; Eaker

I sold mine to the Jackolope gang to pay for my healthcare.


133 posted on 03/23/2010 11:20:50 AM PDT by razorback-bert ( if you're doing an experiment, you should report everything that you think might make it invalid)
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To: Myrddin
When I carry a revolver it's a S&W M642 in 38sp in a pocket holster for my right front pocket. In cargo pants it just disappears. Otherwise I carry an XD 45 compact or an H&K P30 9mm both of those in a Crossbreed super tuck deluxe. Most comfy holster I've ever seen in my life. Know what comp gun is awesome to shoot? An EAA Match piece with a comp in 38 Super. Add a dot sight and it's just a blast.
134 posted on 03/23/2010 11:39:34 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: razorback-bert

*Rimshot!*

[pun possibly intended...or not]...;]


135 posted on 03/23/2010 11:45:35 AM PDT by Salamander (....and I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.......)
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To: tatown

If pistol, Springfield XDM.


136 posted on 03/23/2010 12:06:44 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: ExSoldier
I own a few with comps. My favorite is the Glock 23C with a Jarvis barrel and 165 gr ammo. The comp does a beautiful job of equalizing the recoil. You can pick up your sight picture immediately. It would be a fabulous choice for a speed based competition. The S&W 500 Mag with 10.5" barrel has a competent comp on it too. My least favorite is my S&W 629PP in 44Mag. It is not a matter of correct operation. The port often flings particles back in the shooters face and ears. I've bloodied my left ear at the range. I had a similar experience with the S&W 460 Hunter. I attribute that to shooting .454 Casull with plated bullets. They simply start disintegrating out the way out of the barrel. You need a proper jacketed bullet to shoot safely with a comp in a high pressure application. The same load in a Ruger .454 Casull (Super Redhawk) performs perfectly. 2000 fps pushing a 200 gr flatnose plated bullet. Excellent for knocking down bowling pins at 50 yds.
137 posted on 03/23/2010 12:47:33 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin
I have the S&W 460 with the 5" barrel. I love that gun! I rarely shoot the "little" 45 out of it, because it's too much like shooting a 22. The 454 is more ummmm authoritative, but the real fun is that 460! When I light one of those off at an indoor range it usually shuts down the line for a moment. I don't care what else is going off on the line as long as it's not another 460 or a 500. That place goes dead quiet for a couple of ticks after the 460 speaks. LOL. I always wanted a gun that'd drop a Sasquatch or a T-Rex in it's tracks ... just .... well just because! My wife asked me "why on earth?" And my reply went like this: "Well Honey, we could be at the mall here in Miami FL and be attacked by a rampaging POLAR BEAR... you just never know. I know it's unlikely, but it could happen...." and so she had no real reply except to roll her eyes. Which of course said it all.
138 posted on 03/23/2010 6:04:48 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Uri’el-2012

As always, stay sharp and train safe.


139 posted on 03/24/2010 8:20:53 AM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm)
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My daily carry: A Kimber Ultra Carry in 45. Small, but extremely accurate and very easy to shoot.

The wife carries a slightly fancier version: The Ultra Raptor!

140 posted on 03/24/2010 10:14:37 AM PDT by CodeToad
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