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A national ID card in 2010?
Fox News ^ | 3/11/2010 | N/A

Posted on 03/26/2010 6:53:57 PM PDT by GailA

A new attempt at immigration reform may require a biometric ID card for all working Americans. Privacy advocates aren't pleased

National identification cards, long feared by privacy advocates, may soon become mandatory for American workers. In a bipartisan effort to curb the hiring of illegal immigrants, Sens. Charles Schumer (D-NY) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) have proposed legislation that, if passed, will require all working Americans to carry biometric ID cards containing fingerprint records and other personal information. Sen. Schumer calls the measure "the nub of solving the immigration dilemma." But Chris Calabrese, an American Civil Liberties Union lawyer, warns the cards would be a "massive invasion" of privacy. Are national ID cards the solution to our immigration woes — or an unacceptable intrusion into our lives? (Watch Ron Paul chime in on the national ID card debate)

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnesty; barackobama; biometrics; capandtax; democrats; dna; donttreadonme; healthcare; id; immigration; liberalfascism; lping; military; obama; obamacare; palin; policestate; socializedhealthcare
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5 Reasons Why America Should Steer Clear of a National ID Card By Alex Nowrasteh 3-9-2010 A national ID hurts American workers while pretending to help them.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/03/09/alex-nowrasteh-national-id-e-verify-illegal-immigration/

Senators Unveil Yet Another Flawed National ID Card Plan 3-22-2010

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/03/senators-unveil-another-flawed-national-id-card

Moreover, Schneier adds: [B]iometrics are easy to steal. You leave your fingerprints everywhere you touch, your iris scan everywhere you look. Regularly, hackers have copied the prints of officials from objects they've touched, and posted them on the Internet. We haven't yet had an example of a large biometric database being hacked into, but the possibility is there. Biometrics are unique identifiers, but they're not secrets.

Thursday, March 11, 2010 National I. D. Card = Police State

http://faultlineusa.blogspot.com/2010/03/national-i-d-card-police-state.html

1 posted on 03/26/2010 6:53:57 PM PDT by GailA
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To: GailA

” Your Papers, please!!!”

HELL NO!

Get the cards for illegals.


2 posted on 03/26/2010 6:55:00 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Ok, joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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To: GailA

Big Brother will be watching everything you do with this card....


3 posted on 03/26/2010 6:56:02 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: GailA

This will be the proverbial straw that broke the camels back.


4 posted on 03/26/2010 6:57:17 PM PDT by southernsunshine
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To: GailA

The people proposing this are not opposed to the hiring of illegals are they?


5 posted on 03/26/2010 6:57:41 PM PDT by GeronL (All politicians are POS. Some are just piled higher and smell worse.)
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To: Marysecretary

Add on your bamacare card info on a chip and embed it!

Guess the best place? Your forehead!!!!


6 posted on 03/26/2010 6:59:52 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: himno hero

You won’t be able to buy or sell without a number. Stuff is happening everyday that makes me thankful I know Jesus.


7 posted on 03/26/2010 7:01:35 PM PDT by Terry Mross (God, will you please send Pat Leahy to Murtha's house?)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

We fought this crap a few years ago...666 Mark of the beast, chip under the skin is next.


8 posted on 03/26/2010 7:03:15 PM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: himno hero
THE MARK OF THE BEAST!!!!!

He is the Antichrist.
9 posted on 03/26/2010 7:03:21 PM PDT by ScoochDude
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To: GailA

i am having trouble remembering that number. What was it?? 345, 456, Ah 666. One should read about the mark of the beast. For all you atheists out there it is foretold in the Bible.

I am astounded what some politicians recommend. On occasion.


10 posted on 03/26/2010 7:03:21 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine
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To: GailA

Linseed G.: the gift that keeps on giving. Thanks South Carolina!


11 posted on 03/26/2010 7:03:52 PM PDT by tumblindice (EMAW!)
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To: GeronL

chuckie would hire only illegals, they work cheaper.


12 posted on 03/26/2010 7:03:53 PM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: GailA
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13 posted on 03/26/2010 7:05:08 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

I’ve read the last chapter! Praise GOD I’m a Child of the King!


14 posted on 03/26/2010 7:05:10 PM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: ScoochDude

If he ain’t the ac he’s doing a darn good impersonation.


15 posted on 03/26/2010 7:05:39 PM PDT by Terry Mross (God, will you please send Pat Leahy to Murtha's house?)
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To: Marysecretary
PhotobucketBig Brother will be watching everything you do with this card....

He's already watching; this just expands his view.

16 posted on 03/26/2010 7:06:55 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: GeronL

“The people proposing this are not opposed to the hiring of illegals are they?”

Not only are they not opposed to hiring illegals, they’re more than happy to give the whole country to illegals. They’ve got to find someone to vote for them.

And, of course no one is surprised to see Lindsey Graham team up with Schumer on this. Looks as if Graham is just as stupid as Schumer hopes is.


17 posted on 03/26/2010 7:08:59 PM PDT by sijay
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To: GailA

Perhaps if they showed some good faith effort to solve the problem with the tools they have on hand a national ID card might be necessary.

They know that as well as we do, but they are holding the illegal immigrant population problems over our heads to use as a bargaining point.

This is a huge problem, but it’s caused by the failure of the federal government to use the tools that they already have. Their first response to any problem is to figure out how it can be used to benefit one of their pet projects or goals.

I get tired of hearing them say we can’t send 10 million illegal immigrants packing. BS, we could if we wanted to, but that would solve the problem without any new laws.

Get serious, do the heavy lifting to identify the ones who are here illegally, stop the silly sanctuary city policies and come down hard on employers who make it lucrative for an illegal to risk life and limb to get here.

How ‘bout we just try it for a while and see what happens!


18 posted on 03/26/2010 7:09:28 PM PDT by jwparkerjr
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To: sionnsar; ExTexasRedhead; GOP_Lady; nutmeg

Lawmakers Eyeing National ID Card

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/two-id-cards/

* By David Kravets Email Author
* March 23, 2010 |


19 posted on 03/26/2010 7:09:32 PM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: Terry Mross

Amen!

Maranatha!!


20 posted on 03/26/2010 7:10:10 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: southernsunshine

“This will be the proverbial straw that broke the camels back”

Don’t bank on it. That back should have broken long before now. Obama isn’t any more dangerous than the millions of idiots who voted him in. They scare me more. He has been able to do in this country to a sizable degree because of them.


21 posted on 03/26/2010 7:10:36 PM PDT by NurseZac
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To: GailA

“He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.”
—Rev. 13:16-17


22 posted on 03/26/2010 7:11:52 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo (The GOP: The Big Tent with a Fifth Column.)
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To: Marysecretary

That’s why it must be put off until after the November elections. Stall it in anyway you can.


23 posted on 03/26/2010 7:13:18 PM PDT by RC2
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To: GailA

Bush kept telling us that the terrorists attacked us because they hate our freedoms.
But as far as I can tell, the terrorists never took away any of our freedoms, the government did, in the name of fighting those terrorists.

0bama has continued the Bush era assault on personal liberty and privacy.
We’re turning into a police state, and the terrorists aren’t the ones doing it to us.


24 posted on 03/26/2010 7:14:18 PM PDT by counterpunch (The Emperor has no Cloture)
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To: bamahead

Yipes


25 posted on 03/26/2010 7:14:28 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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To: GailA

Hey Grahamnesty! Try actually enforcing the existing immigration laws!


26 posted on 03/26/2010 7:15:24 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: GailA

“In a bipartisan effort to curb the hiring of illegal immigrants...”

Now, FReepers and Republicans, you aren’t total sucker buffoons, are you?

You will carry your ID until they kill you. You will produce your ID WHENEVER and WHEREVER the NSF, or any other gov’t goon demands it. They will turn it OFF if you disobey, leaving you without identity, without your bank account, without “permission” to drive, and on, and on...

Think that’s crazy?

If you take this ID...

There is no other way to say it.

If you take this ID you will become the property of the state.

I’ve not advocated violence on this forum.

We must act to save ourselves if they try this.

This must not happen.

It must not come to pass, Americans.


27 posted on 03/26/2010 7:16:08 PM PDT by Boucheau
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To: GailA
Sen. Schumer calls the measure "the nub of solving the immigration dilemma."

How? Illegals will still be able to sneak in and work off the books for cash, or sell drugs, or smuggle other illegals, or perform other nefarious endeavors and you can bet nobody will deny them free healthcare.

28 posted on 03/26/2010 7:17:07 PM PDT by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Let’s all drink the Koolaid...It’s soooo goood!!!! NOT...


29 posted on 03/26/2010 7:18:25 PM PDT by hstacey
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To: GailA

Missouri opted out of the Real ID a year or two ago as a sovereignty violation. I suspect there will be no national ID card issued to Missiurians.


30 posted on 03/26/2010 7:19:17 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: GailA
They have already set the foundation for this already, the healthcare bill... now all they have to do is get the rest in order....

31 posted on 03/26/2010 7:20:02 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Boucheau

Let’s not forget the inevitability of GPS tracking being implemented.

And all sorts of anti-human freedom, technological horrors of oppression that are certain to follow.

All in good time, my fellow World Citizens.


32 posted on 03/26/2010 7:22:24 PM PDT by Boucheau
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To: GailA; bamahead
But Chris Calabrese, an American Civil Liberties Union lawyer, warns the cards would be a "massive invasion" of privacy.

I can't believe that I'm siding with the ACLU on this one, but.......

they do have a point....

33 posted on 03/26/2010 7:22:52 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: GailA
I'm thinking that this might be just a stealth way of issuing cards that are - in the small print - UNION CARDS.

Remember a few short weeks ago some day nursury had to start paying union dues because some of the mothers of the children paid them with Government money?

Remember that the unions are trying to get into your 401K...this would give them justification IF you were a dues paying union member.

We may just be "assimilated" in the union of their choice and then the obama cycle would be complete...as all communism/socialism is, is one, BIG, union.

Also, as another freeper said, they will be able to track you in whatever you do...(like they don't already). I wouldn't doubt the damn thing has a GPS chip in it.

Heil comrades, I vant to see Juur papersz.
34 posted on 03/26/2010 7:23:07 PM PDT by FrankR (Those of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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To: Terry Mross; NYer; WKB; greyfoxx39; Arthur Wildfire! March; betty boop
Stuff is happening everyday that makes me thankful I know Jesus.

Count me in on that.

35 posted on 03/26/2010 7:25:32 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Marysecretary

Except for illegal votes. I wonder if they every considered biometric confirmation before allowing anyone to vote.

Silly question, I know.


36 posted on 03/26/2010 7:25:38 PM PDT by TN4Liberty (My tagline disappeared so this is my new one.)
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To: American Constitutionalist

You can bet that they will use obamacare—castro approved, for gun control. The d mayor of Memphis AC Wharton already let that cat out of the bag when he said that gun crime was a health care issue.


37 posted on 03/26/2010 7:26:27 PM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: American Constitutionalist
A National ID Card and Amnesty are our tipping points.

Amnesty: The Line in the Sand

38 posted on 03/26/2010 7:29:04 PM PDT by Art in Idaho
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To: umgud

Exactly. This is just another example of a statist wet dream that decent, law-abiding shee—I mean, citizens, will observe while the next wave of invaders will just ignore.
We don’t need no stinkin’ badges!


39 posted on 03/26/2010 7:30:42 PM PDT by tumblindice (EMAW!)
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To: GailA

Dontcha know? This ID card is going to be a real boost to the economy.

Why, think of the employment and business opportunities that will crop up in the fake ID card business. It’ll create a real grassroots enterprise and there will be hundreds of new jobs being created to make these new fake cards.

Think of all that money that will be flowing into the economy. People will have money to spend and the government will likely figure out a way to tax it and thereby reduce the deficit by .0000000000001%.

***

God help us.....


40 posted on 03/26/2010 7:31:33 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: counterpunch

41 posted on 03/26/2010 7:32:55 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: GailA

NO.

Enough, you socialists.

Screw all of you nasty Democrats.


42 posted on 03/26/2010 7:33:58 PM PDT by Allegra (SEIU delenda est)
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To: GailA
We don't need no stinking badges ID Cards.


43 posted on 03/26/2010 7:37:55 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (I'll just say the 2nd amendment to the Constitution is there for a reason!)
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To: counterpunch

Makes one wonder about the coincidence of said terrorist attacks and just how complicit our government was in them...IMO

Means to an end?

Just sayin’...


44 posted on 03/26/2010 7:40:12 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (I'll just say the 2nd amendment to the Constitution is there for a reason!)
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To: GailA
Lindsay must be thinking with his left side of his brain again.


45 posted on 03/26/2010 7:41:38 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Lucky9teen

I don’t buy into Truther conspiracy theories.
Bush, like all those in power, simply didn’t want to let a good crisis go to waste once it presented itself.


46 posted on 03/26/2010 7:42:25 PM PDT by counterpunch (The Emperor has no Cloture)
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To: American Constitutionalist

After all, it takes time to put together legislation to control the people


47 posted on 03/26/2010 7:42:54 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (I'll just say the 2nd amendment to the Constitution is there for a reason!)
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To: counterpunch

I’m not into the truther thing either, and I’m not saying Bush was behind anything, but looking at the coincidences of how information didn’t get noticed or departments weren’t talking to departments, etc, and it’s my opinion, the government was somewhat complicit. Especially considering the Progressive government in power.

Who’s to say the crisis wasn’t forthcoming... and known about, but wasn’t stopped before it happened?


48 posted on 03/26/2010 7:47:20 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (I'll just say the 2nd amendment to the Constitution is there for a reason!)
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To: GailA

Instead of stopping criminals at the border, we will have an open border and treat everyone like a criminal.


49 posted on 03/26/2010 7:47:28 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: Bratch

It’s not all Bush’s fault.
It’s the fault of the Big Government Progressives, of which Bush played his small part.
Are you saying that Bush didn’t push for the creation of the Department of Homeland Security (a Democrat sponsored bill) and then sign it with much fanfare when it reached his desk?
Are you trying to say that Bush was there, fighting on the side of American Liberty as hard as he fought for Iraqi Freedom?
Get real. While he was busy liberating people abroad, he was doing his part to tighten the government’s grip at home.


50 posted on 03/26/2010 7:47:32 PM PDT by counterpunch (The Emperor has no Cloture)
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