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A Nope for Pope (Nope = Nun for Pope;NY Slimes continues assault of CC)
New York SlimesYup, we need a Nope. ^ | March 29, 2010 | Maureen Dowd

Posted on 03/28/2010 6:18:34 AM PDT by C19fan

Yup, we need a Nope.

A nun who is pope.

The Catholic Church can never recover as long as its Holy Shepherd is seen as a black sheep in the ever-darkening sex abuse scandal.

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If the church could throw open its stained glass windows and let in some air, invite women to be priests, nuns to be more emancipated and priests to marry, if it could banish criminal priests and end the sordid culture of men protecting men who attack children, it might survive. It could be an encouraging sign of humility and repentance, a surrender of arrogance, both moving and meaningful.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: catholic; pope; times
Considering the source I am not even sure it is newsworthy more like agit-prop almost as bad as the sensational 18th/19th century Gothic novels with nefarious sex obsessed priests and nuns. News to you Miss. Dowd there is a church that adopted the policies you recommend the Episcopalian church, and they are dying out. How about this. You go to your Gaia church and butt out of our church.
1 posted on 03/28/2010 6:18:35 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Where are the Catherine Zeta-Jones pics? A thing of beauty is a joy forever ...


2 posted on 03/28/2010 6:19:26 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Espiritu Santo, Espiritu Santo, renueva la faz de la tierra!)
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To: C19fan

She continues to speak like an bittered old woman engulfed in self hatred


3 posted on 03/28/2010 6:21:52 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Tax-chick

I think lust is the problem being discussed here. Apparently not limited to priests.


4 posted on 03/28/2010 6:22:06 AM PDT by all the best
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To: all the best

I think the problem being discussed here is that Maureen Dowd is a nutball.


5 posted on 03/28/2010 6:22:57 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Espiritu Santo, Espiritu Santo, renueva la faz de la tierra!)
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To: C19fan
it might survive

LOL. From a has-been at a dying paper.

6 posted on 03/28/2010 6:25:34 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: C19fan
New York Times Lies About Pope
7 posted on 03/28/2010 6:31:17 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Only stupid, racists people support Obama.)
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To: johniegrad

Here’s a stupid question: why is the Catholic Church fair game BUT NON-CHRISTIAN RELIGIONS (you know who) ARE NOT ?


8 posted on 03/28/2010 6:32:58 AM PDT by Huebolt (Some people are born to be slaves. They register as democrats.)
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To: C19fan

She’s dancing on the Trapdoor of HELL!


9 posted on 03/28/2010 6:33:21 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Huebolt
The Catholic Church's stance on abortion and contraception remains a persistent thorn in the side of the liberals both in and out of the Church. And since our country is so strongly influenced by our European roots and Europe by its history with Christianity, the continued denigration of institutions that began in the 1960s in this country MUST take the Catholic Church into account.

Muslims, until very recently, have largely been ignored in the US and have made very little contribution to our Western way of thinking. They have never been a part of the American establishment of institutions and are, therefore, not part of the liberal enemy camp.

If you want to go further back in history, you can also take into account that Western civilization has become a post-enlightenment culture which overvalues the scientific method and places undue skepticism on the role of "authority".

10 posted on 03/28/2010 6:41:23 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: C19fan

Damn, Mo’s off the meds again.


11 posted on 03/28/2010 6:42:20 AM PDT by richardtavor
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To: johniegrad

Celibacy is indeed totally bizarre and unnatural. But why is there no “Catholic Defense League” suing the crap out of all these slanders? (another moot question )


12 posted on 03/28/2010 6:45:14 AM PDT by Huebolt (Some people are born to be slaves. They register as democrats.)
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To: C19fan

“If the church could throw open its stained glass windows and let in some air, invite women to be priests, nuns to be more emancipated and priests to marry...”

...it would be a very middling college or university of religious studies, and little more.


13 posted on 03/28/2010 7:10:57 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: C19fan

What a bunch of crap.


14 posted on 03/28/2010 7:22:15 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Huebolt
Celibacy is indeed totally bizarre and unnatural.

Only to those who allow their libido to dictate how they live their life.

But why is there no “Catholic Defense League” suing the crap out of all these slanders?

Catholic League

If all Bill Donahue did was sue people who slander and libel the Church he'd have to live in the courthouse.

15 posted on 03/28/2010 7:49:11 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: C19fan

Why did the Times run this on Palm Sunday? Couldn’t they have found a more offensive day ? (sarc/off)


16 posted on 03/28/2010 7:51:39 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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Why does’nt the Catholic church open
it’s stained glass windows............

Why doesn’t the times open up their sealed windows to let out the stink?
Too many of their scribblers will jump from that sinking ship.


17 posted on 03/28/2010 7:58:25 AM PDT by Maumee (wtw)
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To: C19fan

And the NYT needs an ICONS (Intelligent Conservative) to open the sealed windows. Let the fresh air in; the decaying bodies are putrefying.


18 posted on 03/28/2010 8:29:29 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: C19fan

She’s just upset that she won’t be attending the WALL STREET 2 premier with Michael.


19 posted on 03/28/2010 8:29:50 AM PDT by Bridesheadfan
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If we could just get rid of that Jesus fellow, and his preaching, the church could be great. (/sarc)


20 posted on 03/28/2010 8:35:54 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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Celibacy is indeed totally bizarre and unnatural.

Only to those who allow their libido to dictate how they live their life.

Celibacy is what made priesthood the perfect haven for homosexuals. That's now costing $BILLIONS and may well finish off the church...

Those lawyers drool thinking of it.

21 posted on 03/28/2010 4:12:27 PM PDT by Huebolt (Some people are born to be slaves. They register as democrats.)
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To: C19fan
The principal responsibility for sexual-abuse cases lay with the local Ordinary, Archbishop Rembert Weakland. Leaving the accused abuser priest supposedly "without assignment," and likewise without supervision from 1977 until 1996, and neglecting any effort to discover the scope of his abuses or to minister to his victims, Weakland essentially did nothing.

It was not until 1996 (19 years after Fr. Murphy was put out of circulation on "sick leave") that Weakland first notified Cardinal Ratzinger’s Vatican office, which promptly moved forward on having a canonical trial. Neither Ratzinger nor anyone in his office in any way impeded the local process. In fact, Card. Ratzinger’s Deputy, Cardinal Narciso Bertone, tried in every way to expedite the process, despite the huge gap created by Abp Weakland's negligence and the statute of limitations.

Fr. Murphy died in 1998, before a canonical trial could take place.

The real fault here, as I read the facts, was with Archbishop Weakland, who was notoriously derelict in his duties.

But because the Associated Press, the New York Times, and rhe MSM in general cannot lodge fault with Weakland ---who, as a “progressive,” a payoff-paying gay prelate himself, and a longtime enabler/protector of anti-papal dissenters, is immune from all criticism --- there is this a concerted, international effort to find some way to drag in Pope Benedict.

Maureen Dowd's opinions are contemptible and I wouldn't care to comment on them.

But what the New York Times is doing as a "news" organization is vicious, prejudicial, and (it seems to me) probably legally libellous.

22 posted on 03/29/2010 10:59:57 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (To the hard of hearing you shout, and for the blind you draw large and startling figures. F O'Connor)
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Recommended reading: “Goodbye, Good Men / How LIberals Brought Corruption into the Catholic Church” by Michael S. Rose.

An account of how slithering, slimy, self-loathing and hateful dyke nuns and gay priests, along with their accomplice aggressively secular psychologists have gone about advancing their radical agenda via the vocations selection process.

I have little doubt this has gone on and continues to go on. I am a devout Catholic. Upon moving to a new town I answered the local parishes call for RCIA instructors. I was called in for a meeting. The person conducting the interview was a lay person, a woman. OK. But everything about her screamed bitter, frustrated lesbian, who was angry about not being able to run the whole show. As we discussed the RCIA program, I made clear my orthodox views of the Church on abortion, men-only ordination, gay marriage, etc. She was working so hard to keep the steam to keep from coming out of her nose and ears that I thought her head would explode. She shut right down. The meeting went on for another few minutes as I asked a few polite questions that were met with grunts and scowld. But, needless to say, I did not get a call back.

And don’t get me started on my own parish’s refusal to speak out in the healthcare reform debate or — in the world turned updside down category — on the issue of abortion. Those of us who’ve approached the clergy on pro-life issues have been told to stand down out of respect for those who are pro-abortion. Can anyone imagine attending a NOW meeting where the hysterical harpies are told to tone it down out of respect for the men in the audience? Or the lunatics and zombies at an Obama rally being told they must respect the Republicans who might be in the crowd?

It’s no wonder the Church is in the trouble it is.

As was evidenced in the health care debate, they have no clue as to whom and what they are dealing with. Their faith in statists, secularists, communists, and militant homosexuals is tearing their flesh piece by piece. They treat these elements as Obama treats terror states.

Greece crumbled. Rome faded away. England took itself down. The U.S. is doing the same. If the Church is what it says it is — the truth, the way, God’s kingdom here on earth, built upon Peter the Rock, it should start acting that way.


23 posted on 04/09/2010 6:11:06 AM PDT by Restoration1776
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