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Another ObamaCare mandate we had to discover after its passage
Hot Air ^ | MARCH 27, 2010 | ED MORRISSEY

Posted on 03/28/2010 9:22:25 AM PDT by RobinMasters

Nancy Pelosi told the public that we’d have to pass ObamaCare to find out all of the surprises Democrats had loaded into it. Since its passage, we’ve discovered a number of them, including the elimination of a tax credit that kept seniors on private medication coverage that has forced publicly-held corporations like AT&T, Caterpillar, John Deere, and Verizon to take massive charges against this year’s earnings. Earlier this week, the Associated Press discovered a new mandate, this time on chain restaurants, that is at once petty, paternalistic, and anti-growth:

A requirement tucked into the nation’s massive health care bill will make calorie counts impossible for thousands of restaurants to hide and difficult for consumers to ignore. More than 200,000 fast food and other chain restaurants will have to include calorie counts on menus, menu boards and even drive-throughs.

The new law, which applies to any restaurant with 20 or more locations, directs the Food and Drug Administration to create a new national standard for menu labeling, superseding a growing number of state and city laws. President Barack Obama was expected to sign the health care legislation Tuesday.

The idea is to make sure that customers process the calorie information as they are ordering. Many restaurants currently post nutritional information in a hallway, on a hamburger wrapper or on their Web site. The new law will make calories immediately available for most items.

(Excerpt) Read more at hotair.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; military; obama; obamacare; palin; unfundedmandates

1 posted on 03/28/2010 9:22:25 AM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: ExTexasRedhead; justiceseeker93; traderrob6; OL Hickory; socialismisinsidious; trlambsr; Altera; ...

Ping


2 posted on 03/28/2010 9:22:36 AM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

Another “we can’t think for ourselves” moment.....


3 posted on 03/28/2010 9:27:42 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: RobinMasters

Must feed the cattle properly. Welcome to the USSA

Pray for America


4 posted on 03/28/2010 9:27:49 AM PDT by bray (Throw All the Bums Out, starting with McCain)
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To: RobinMasters
Just one more of the many mandates we have to "discover" now that this bill is law. I'm not holding my breath for repeal or overturn by SCOTUS. It aint happening.

Oh well, it was a great country while it lasted. Thanks Progressives!

5 posted on 03/28/2010 9:28:14 AM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: RobinMasters
When I want a Whopper, fries and cola, I know what I will be getting. I don't care how many calories. It is a known that the meal will end up on my arse.
6 posted on 03/28/2010 9:28:24 AM PDT by Bronzy
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To: RobinMasters

The CEO’s should announce about 2,500,000 layoff’s and see how Obummer squirms then as the companies right size again. Healthcare will cause many more layoffs this year


7 posted on 03/28/2010 9:28:36 AM PDT by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world.)
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To: RobinMasters

why are they having to post it anyway? nanny nanny nanny


8 posted on 03/28/2010 9:28:46 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: RobinMasters

A lot of expense and hassle for the restaurant owners, and most people will ignore the labels anyway. Those who bother to read them won’t find accurate information—recipes change, sometimes slightly, sometimes a lot. What a crock.


9 posted on 03/28/2010 9:28:57 AM PDT by MizSterious ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK)
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To: RobinMasters

Keep writing SCOTUS and beseeching them to hear Orly Taitz [or one of the other] Lawsuits against 0bama.

I contend that the QUICKEST and BEST way to end the debacle named 0bama is through SCOTUS declaring him ineligible to be President and therefore anything he’s signed by fiat or legislation to be Null and Void.

Please do this even if you think it’s futile. It only takes one little straw placed on top of all the other straws to break the back of a camel. Your letter may be that final little straw.


10 posted on 03/28/2010 9:29:05 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (SPEAK UP REPUBLICANS, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU YET! IMPEACH OBAMA!)
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To: RobinMasters

Barack Obama is now your meal time nanny.


11 posted on 03/28/2010 9:31:57 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (With God, Obama can't hurt us. Without God, George Washington couldn't save us.)
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To: RobinMasters

Ummm... re: the AT&T thing... I actually agree with it. Do you know what the provision is? It was an *error* in the tax code.

From BusinessWeek:
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-03-26/at-t-to-take-1-billion-charge-on-health-care-reform-update1-.html
“AT&T previously received a tax-free benefit from the government to subsidize health-care costs for retirees, who would otherwise be on a Medicare Part D plan. Under the new bill, AT&T will no longer be able to deduct that subsidy.”

AT&T was getting money from the government and then being able to deduct that same amount from their taxes — a double bonus. They can still get the money, but getting the money shouldn’t mean your taxes on *other* earnings should be lower.

This was a stupid rule and I’m glad to see it changed. Maybe the price was too high, but this one provision, I agree with.


12 posted on 03/28/2010 9:36:57 AM PDT by FRForever (http://www.constitutionparty.com)
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To: MizSterious
A lot of expense and hassle for the restaurant owners, and most people will ignore the labels anyway.

Which will not deter the nannystaters. They will then point to the rising costs of government-funded health care as justification for swooping in and telling these restaurants what they can and cannot serve the public. Burger King will become Tofu King and Ronald McDonald will be trying to sell the new Quarter Pound Veggie Burger.

The only thing that enrages me more than this arrogance is the fact that when I tell people about this ("middle of the road" types), they will say how good it is that people will be informed as to calorie count with no thought as to future consequence of their own liberty and freedom. When did thinking beyond the moment and consideration of the big picture get drummed out of the populace?
13 posted on 03/28/2010 9:41:39 AM PDT by LostInBayport (2010 - The Second American Revolution. The first shot was fired 1/19/2010 -- here in Massachusetts!)
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To: RobinMasters
Health care, immigration, cap and tax: Let's tie them all together now. National Id card that records the total calories that you eat on a daily, weekly, monthly basis, your carbon foot print is also recorded and after you surpass the “allowed” limit your will be severely punished. Your thermostat will be controlled, the total amount of electricity that you are allowed to use will be monitored and controlled.

Every single aspect of your life, every single activity, hobby, sport, pass time will be evaluated and taxed based on the government's assessment of its impact on the cost of health care.

14 posted on 03/28/2010 9:46:32 AM PDT by mtdrake
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To: RobinMasters

I think if I ran a fast food joint, I’d make it an advertising campaign.

We’ve sell the highest calorie burger and fries combo in town, and more calories for the dollar of any of our competitors. We’ll even throw in a fried ice cream dessert for free.


15 posted on 03/28/2010 9:53:47 AM PDT by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: LostInBayport

As others have stated, the ultimate goal of these fascists is to control every single aspect of our lives. All of these are baby steps, soon they will be jackboot steps unless we stop them. I’m older than dirt, and I remember the lessons of WWII and pre-WWII. Lots of people have either forgotten them or were never taught. (Lots of people think I’m a silly old alarmist.)


16 posted on 03/28/2010 9:54:07 AM PDT by MizSterious ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK)
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To: RobinMasters
Not in favor of a federal law requiring it, fat people will continue to take in more calories than they expend, the law is not going to tell people their daily caloric limits or prevent them from exceeding them.

The chains should test this in the courts.

17 posted on 03/28/2010 9:57:21 AM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: RobinMasters

By the time these fast food restaurants add employee health care, reprinting costs for all menus and packaging, a possible Added Value Tax, and who knows what else, a Big Mac will probably come in at a meager $15......


18 posted on 03/28/2010 9:57:50 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: illiac

Don’t laugh...a whopper vale meal here in Sweden is close to $10.


19 posted on 03/28/2010 9:59:33 AM PDT by riri (Resistance-It's the New Black)
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To: EternalVigilance
Barack Obama is now your meal time nanny.

Ob-mommy.....
20 posted on 03/28/2010 10:01:35 AM PDT by LA Woman3
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To: LA Woman3

Obamama.


21 posted on 03/28/2010 10:04:06 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (With God, Obama can't hurt us. Without God, George Washington couldn't save us.)
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To: riri

My wife is thinking we should go buy 100 - 200 right now and freeze them.....


22 posted on 03/28/2010 10:04:38 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: RobinMasters
Damn those communists. Damn them.
23 posted on 03/28/2010 10:06:49 AM PDT by Allegra (SEIU delenda est)
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To: RobinMasters

When the IRS throws me in prison for non compliance I will have plenty of time to read up on why I’m locked up.

I will not comply, I will not pay the fine and I will not play nice.

They found my hill and I’m keeping it

TT


24 posted on 03/28/2010 10:09:21 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (Parse every sentence uttered by a politician)
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To: mtdrake

Mmhmm... member this???

So that’s what we want to do on global warming here in the United States.

“We are also, though, going have to negotiate with other countries. China, India, in particular Brazil. They are growing so fast that they are consuming more and more energy, and pretty soon, if their carpet footprint even approaches ours, we’re goners. That’s part of the reason why we’ve got to make the investment; we’ve got to lead by example. If we lead by example — if we lead by example, then we can actually export and license technology that have been invented here to help them deal with their growth pain. But keep in mind, you’re right. We can’t tell them, don’t grow. We can’t — drive our SUVs and you know, eat as much as we want and keep our homes on you know, 72 degrees at all times, and whether we’re living in the desert or we’re living in the tundra, and then just expect that every other country’s going say OK.

You guys go ahead and keep on using 25 percent of the world’s energy. Even though you only account for 3 percent of the population, and we’ll be fine. Don’t worry about us. That’s not — that’s not leadership. That’s not going to happen.”


25 posted on 03/28/2010 10:11:21 AM PDT by gibsosa
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To: gibsosa

Oops, quotation marks were supposed to be starting at—”So that’s what we want to do on global warming here in the United States.”


26 posted on 03/28/2010 10:13:44 AM PDT by gibsosa
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To: mtdrake

Nice to see that at least there are two of us who get it! ... The democrap party had three vehicles by which they meant to take control of Amerika: cap&tax, OR healthcare control, OR national ID hooked to interstate commerce as part of an amnesty bill.


27 posted on 03/28/2010 10:16:30 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: ncfool

I have to wonder if that’s not what the muslim wants. Massive lay offs and the country is kaputs.


28 posted on 03/28/2010 10:19:23 AM PDT by Terry Mross ("God, please send Pat Leahy to Murtha's house.")
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To: Terry Mross
Kaputs.

I don't think I'll ever see that word without thinking: STUPAK.

29 posted on 03/28/2010 10:31:47 AM PDT by proud2beconservativeinNJ ("In God We Trust")
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To: RobinMasters
Obamacare is a Disaster, medium
30 posted on 03/28/2010 10:34:39 AM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: RobinMasters

It is only the beginning- it won’t be long until the government tells you which item on the menu you are allowed to buy....


31 posted on 03/28/2010 10:57:46 AM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: RobinMasters
Saw a report on this last week. They were interviewing patrons at a restaurant and one of the ladies thought it was a great idea that the government was forcing this on the companies. She certainly seemed to be the type (leftist) that has no problem telling other people how they should live their lives.

If people are too stupid to pay attention to all the health reports, news articles, books, and warnings about the fats, calories, sodium, and chemicals in the food they are eating having the calorie count on a menu isn't going to change their habits one bit. It will however, limit the selections, specials, new items, of many restaurants and prevent many from opening a new location once they reach the magic number of 19 locations. Not to mention adding to the cost of doing business which will be passed on to customers.

32 posted on 03/28/2010 10:58:54 AM PDT by eggman (Grab a mop Mr. Gibbs! Your boss is making another mess.)
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To: RobinMasters
I can't imagine how the coffee shops, ice cream stores, and donut shops can possibly list all of the calorie combinations that can result from the special order and large choices they provide the customers. Can they possibly list all of the calorie counts on a menu board for all of the items they sell and how could it possibly be reasonably accurate?
33 posted on 03/28/2010 11:05:50 AM PDT by eggman (Grab a mop Mr. Gibbs! Your boss is making another mess.)
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To: RobinMasters

Will companies have to get new computer programs or reprogram to add the medical device tax? If so that is another hidden cost that will be passed on to the consumer.


34 posted on 03/28/2010 11:14:14 AM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: Rome2000

They post some of that stuff already on Subway stuff, doesn’t stop some one from eating a foot long, when all they should eat is a half a one.

Pretty soon they will require it on your kitchen wall!


35 posted on 03/28/2010 11:17:34 AM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: ncfool

YES...we need a BUSINESS STRIKE....for about a week! Let’s see how Obomba would fare under that....


36 posted on 03/28/2010 11:22:42 AM PDT by goodnesswins (My life. My fortune. My sacred honor. My family will not grow up in a communist country.)
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To: RobinMasters

big BUMP


37 posted on 03/28/2010 11:43:29 AM PDT by GeronL (All politicians are POS. Some are just piled higher and smell worse.)
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To: RobinMasters
Freedom disassembled piece by piece while those of us who understand watch in awe of the allowance of it.
38 posted on 03/28/2010 11:43:54 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: RobinMasters

“superseding a growing number of state and city laws”

And, there is the real meat and potatoes of the mad march to marxism...supercede local control and local government; bring big brother gubmint to the masses.

This has very little to do with healthcare, and EVERYTHING to do with control and extending the socialist agenda of the anointed one and his 0bamunistas...

It’s time to take back the country.


39 posted on 03/28/2010 11:45:46 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: Terry Mross

“I have to wonder if that’s not what the muslim wants. Massive lay offs and the country is kaputs.”
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

You’re still wondering? Hard to convince, aren’t you? Don’t worry, you’ll be a believer yet.


40 posted on 03/28/2010 11:45:46 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: GailA

>They post some of that stuff already on Subway stuff, doesn’t stop some one from eating a foot long, when all they should eat is a half a one.

$5 footlong! Yay!.


41 posted on 03/28/2010 11:46:00 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: riri
Don’t laugh...a whopper vale meal here in Sweden is close to $10.

Don't laugh, by the time Obama gets through with us, via the value of the dollar, it will be about $10 trillion.

42 posted on 03/28/2010 11:46:18 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: RobinMasters

That is going to cost, and cost and cost.

It is nationwide, and fast food franchise wide, in the millions.

Which, we the people, will get to pay, in the long term.

How many jobs will that come to? Q2 earnings is going to get interesting.


43 posted on 03/28/2010 11:47:35 AM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: illiac

Again with superceding state and local laws. I am currently asking local officials why do we need them if the federal government is making alll the rules. We surely don’t need bloated governments at multiple levels - and the money spent - if they have no authority.

It should get their attention if their jobs are at stake.


44 posted on 03/28/2010 12:28:05 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: ncfool

“Healthcare will cause many more layoffs this year

This is why the furor about ObamaCare will not die down before the election. Every day will bring news of yet another provision in this massive law that is creating unintended consequences, or news of yet another company having to take a charge against its books, or another entrepreneur angered over his/her new tax load who will report to the press that his plans for expansion or new hiring are on hold or delayed due to Obamacare.

There’s no indication the unemployment rate is going to shrink much over the next 7 months. Quite the contrary, ironically, if things get better, it’s going to encourage people now not even looking for a job (and hence artificially lowering the unemployed count) to begin doing so, at which point unemployment rate may actually RISE even if there isn’t a double-dip recession.

In short, by next November, voters are going to be steaming mad that nearly 2 years and hundreds of billions in stimulus have done NOTHING to improve the economy. They are going to be asking themselves why Congress and the president squandered great gobs of time and the public’s patience pursuing health care reform instead of single-mindedly focusing attention on the economy and jobs. As Obama’s State of the Union promise to pivot towards jobs is played again and again, it will simply remind everyone just how much he lied and the resultant anger will ensure he no longer has a Democrat majority in Congress to do his bidding.


45 posted on 03/28/2010 1:05:59 PM PDT by DrC
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To: RipSawyer

No, I’m not wondering. I used the wrong words. I should have said “I’m wondering if only those of us on freerepublic believe this is what the muslim wants.”


46 posted on 03/28/2010 2:06:53 PM PDT by Terry Mross ("God, please send Pat Leahy to Murtha's house.")
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To: GailA
The medical device tax is an excise tax on the companies that produce the devices. They can absorb the cost by increasing their prices directly or have it reflected on the bills much like the phone companies itemize the various taxes they pass on. The hospitals, doctors, and medical supply companies would likely then pass the cost on to the patient. The reprogramming would be a minimal one-time expense whereas the recordkeeping, reporting, and collecting of the tax is an ongoing expense. Regardless, it is a new cost that will obviously trickle down to the consumer in one form or another.

Here is an article Medical Device Firms Cry Foul that has some quotes from various medical device companies. It certainly will raise prices and cost jobs. Here is an interestng quote from that article.

Ernie Whiton, ZOLL's chief financial officer, said his company anticipates being hit with a $7.5 million tax bill under health-care reform. More than 80 percent of the company's revenue comes from device sales.

"We do not anticipate any significant benefit from health reform to our sales, so the tax will be a direct hit to our bottom line -- unless we pass it on to our customers, and that's our intent," Whiton said. "If we are successful in that, it will essentially drive up the cost of health care. If we're not successful, we're going to have to look at doing other things, cutting research and development and moving our manufacturing jobs overseas."

47 posted on 03/28/2010 3:00:55 PM PDT by eggman (Grab a mop Mr. Gibbs! Your boss is making another mess.)
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To: OneWingedShark

I know we get one and split it! That and a bowl of soup make a light supper.


48 posted on 03/28/2010 6:19:01 PM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: MizSterious

When I want a burger and fries and cola I don’t care what the calories are so I don’t need the info and those who want the info probably don’t go there anyway-

Obama isn’t my mama-I don’t need or want him telling me what I can or can’t do-


49 posted on 03/29/2010 12:05:36 PM PDT by okokie
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To: EternalVigilance

OBAMA’S NOT MY MAMA-


50 posted on 03/29/2010 12:08:08 PM PDT by okokie
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