Former Milwaukee Archbishop Rembert Weakland Admits He's Gay

Fox 6 ^ | May 11, 2009

[marajade]

two wrongs don’t make a right

[caww]

Ann...the scandal is now...if your Pope is under the care of the Lord...and I suspect you believe this...then God is big enough to see him thru this and bring him out on the other side...that does not mean he will come out unscathed...battles are like that...everyone takes a hit...For what ever reason NOW, at this time, God has sought fit that this be known and the Pope is the one chosen equally at this time to endure the investigation. We are promised never to be given more than we can handle with the Lord....that goes for the Pope as well.

[marajade]

marriage is supposed to be most about sex is it not? Even Paul wrote letters in the NT about it.

And your interpretation of sexual intimacy in a marriage isn’t so simple as you seem to want to make it to be

[Recovering Ex-hippie]

Good post.

and the Catholic bashing goes on.

I am tempted to post the non-Catholic statistics and then close with STFU.

so much for Christians...if you’re aren’t the right brand, look out...That is more damaging than the aethiest or secularists or Muslims could do to Catholics.

[GraceG]

>> I’m sorry, but that doesn’t make any sense. It seems you have a need to blame the Catholic church. I’m sorry they closed your school and everything, but come on, get over it. <<

When the Church Closed the school smething happened not unlike the Tea Parties staretd last year in our community, we awoke to the fact the people in power were not looking out for the parish’s interests but their own even if that path was one off a cliff like a bunch of lemmings. 1/2 the church went to other towns to go to catholic church there to avoid the priest and the adminstration. Some corssing state lines and driving 30-40 miles to a different diocese. It has a special place in my heart because it was a microcosim of what is happening right now with the “awakening” that is occuring nationwide today.

[buccaneer81]

Well, YES!

Thanks!

[marajade]

hate to burst your bubble but this scandal has been ongoing since about 1930

[SnakeDoctor]

I apparently understand celibacy better than do many Catholic priests who either mistook their commitment, underestimated their urges, or overestimated their strength. I understand celibacy well enough to know that I have not been granted that particular gift.

Celibacy is a rare and admirable gift for the few that are granted it. But, that all clergy must be celibate is a fabrication of the Catholic church.

SnakeDoc

[Ann Archy]

With Fr. Murphy?

[If You Want It Fixed - Fix It]

The pope goes into Holy Week and Good Friday much as Jesus Christ - spat upon, slandered, lied about, accused of blasphemy.

How much deeper his faith must be becoming as he gets to carry the Cross of Christ on such a celebrated anniversary.

Would you pray for him? Would you pray for His(Jesus’) Church?

Satan is always swirling all about the Church for he knows to crack a priest is to send scandal and satisfaction to all feigned dis-believers and to break the weak Catholics from the fold, as the media and the ignorant commenters are doing.

Naturally, priests will be tempted moreso than the general population, which is why the stronger are called - and that evens out to what the general population experiences in terms of fallen instances.

So many Christians should convert to Osama’s form of Islam, where unforgiveness and mercy killing is more in agreement with their actual practiced faith.

[stop_fascism]

Here is a good article about what the Holy Father has done.

http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/2010/03/scoundrel-times

[hellbender]

I'm sure you're right, statistically. There's also the fact that there is no Biblical basis for a celibate clergy. Some think the Catholic Church adopted it to compete with (or under the influence of) the Cathars, a medieval heretic sect whose elite (the Perfecti) were celibate.

Incidentally, most Protestant missionaries in the 19th cent. were required to be married. Churches did not want to send single young men among "natives" (many scantily clad), knowing that disgrace to their cause would likely result.

[GraceG]

>> I apparently understand celibacy better than do many Catholic priests who either mistook their commitment, underestimated their urges, or overestimated their strength. I understand celibacy well enough to know that I have not been granted that particular gift.

Celibacy is a rare and admirable gift for the few that are granted it. But, that all clergy must be celibate is a fabrication of the Catholic church.

SnakeDoc <<

So let me ask you a Hypothetical Mr. SnakeDoc.

If you were going to be Catholic Priest, would you take a drug that would kill or reduce your sex drive to make it easier for you to keep your covenant with the church on celibacy. Or would really really cold showers be enough for you?

Just wondering what a guy’s take on this is.

[marajade]

just google it... the truth is out there if you really want to find it

[GraceG]

I pray for the Pope because I beleive he is a good celibate man. I fear of for him because of the vipers who have nested themselves in Rome in Cardinal Clothing.

God don’t need to save the queen, he needs to save the pope first. :)

[SnakeDoctor]

None of the Above. I’m a Baptist. If I were called to lead a church ... I’d have married the same lovely and gracious woman that I am currently married to. Celibacy is not among my options ... so your question might be better directed elsewhere.

SnakeDoc

[truth_seeker]

If a company posted a position description on a job website:

“Must vow not to ever have sex with women”

...and got a lot of applications from gay men, I would not be surprised.

How long has this been going on?

[marajade]

all i would like is for le to called when abuse is suspected just that but it seems that one small thingy is just not possible for the catholic church to ask of its clergy

[AzaleaCity5691]

Catholics are Christian

[If You Want It Fixed - Fix It]

Celibacy is not a gift! You apparently don’t know ANYTHING about celibacy!

Celibacy is not given TO YOU, you rather give it TO GOD, out of LOVE, total LOVE for Him.....JUST like you give your sexuality to your WIFE until you die. Priests MARRY the Church. Nuns MARRY Jesus Christ.

It’s hard - why would God want something easy from you like a knitted sweater? He wants the best from you! If you can’t give it, you must not love Him enough. You are to give that to him, in Chastity as well, until marriage, and then be chaste in marriage and in priesthood alike forever.

An unmarried father will hit on his daughter’s older girlfriends - so marriage keeps that from happening, hence the married father can better raise/counsel his daughter as he’s not trying to use her to get close to the girlfriends. Priestly celibacy does the same. But we are given free will by God, so He wont stop us from offending Him of we choose to reject Him.

Ask any priest worth a quarter of his ordination - chastity and celibacy is not the hardest part of the Cross he carries for Christ, it’s not the big deal that unmarried folks think it is, that short-term married folks think it is, that little faith people think it is.