Skip to comments.Occam's Razor, Toyota, NASA and Gremlins
Posted on 03/30/2010 1:31:40 PM PDT by CriticalThinking
I spent a good part of my career as an engineer involved in complex aerospace systems. When I think of all the complexity that goes into aircraft design, I am impressed that our engineering process deliver such a high quality and safe solution. I have always thought a great deal of Toyota and their talent. The loss of life from unintended acceleration is a great tragedy. Frankly its amazing there are not more automotive deaths given the range of drivers and capabilities.....
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Didn’t NASA have a space craft crash on the moon because they of an issue with the metric system?
Actually it was the grinding of the hubble’s mirror
right, someone made an improper conversion. It was not the moon but one of the Mars landers.
Schrodinger’s Cat was killed by Occam’s Razor..............
Thanks, can always count on a Freeper
Apollo 13 was a voltage change that no one updated from engineering to manufacturing.
Being connected with the auto industry myself and dealing with some of the engineers there I have to say my answer is hell yes it’s amazing more aren’t killed.
Nasa's safety record is that about 2% of space shuttles blow-up, killing all aboard.
Figuring about 10,000,000 Toyotas on the road in the U.S., that would mean we can look forward to about 200,000 blown up Toyotas.
The combined safety record of Mercury, Gemini and Apollo is ZERO catastrophic failures in >20 flights.
IMO, catastrophic failure involves complete hull loss and loss of life.
The Space Shuttle’s safety record seems to be a 1% chance of catastrophic failure on launch and 1% chance of catastrophic failure on reentry.
If I has a few bucks I'd buy 100 shares of Toyota purely as a speculative play and wait for all the hysteria to die down.
No it wasn’t an “improper conversion”. The two opposing engineering teams each assumed that the other was using their units of measure, i.e. English vs Metric, I believe.
That was Mars.
The last big scare of this type was the Audi 5000, and that was driver error.
Obama doesn't want anybody competing with his clown cars. Wonder what Occam's Razor would reveal about this bit of information.
"GM Recalls 1.5 Million Vehicles for Various Problems"
DETROIT November 4, 2004; Reuters reported that General Motors Corp. has recalled nearly 1.5 million vehicles in North America, including 946,817 sport utility vehicles, to fix tail lights that could loosen and flicker, the automaker said on Thursday.
Also included in four separate recalls are 204,317 mid-size cars for an accelerator that could stick, causing the car to continue speeding and possibly result in a crash.
GM, the world's largest automaker, has recalled a total of 10.47 million vehicles in the United States, Canada and Mexico this year through the end of October, above the total of 7.8 million for all of 2003, spokesman Alan Adler said.
It's not wrong when the Unions do it!!!
I can picture it now — late-night infomercials selling retrofit Faraday cages for cars, to protect from induced electrical events caused by solar flares!
Now all they need is Algore and a cheesy slogan to sell millions of them to Obama voters and other students of the “liberal” arts!
It was Mars.
I wrote pretty much the same to a number of my friends regarding the Toyota problems. This author was too nice - the simplest solution is probably the driver.
In any case, even given NASA’s engineering problems, each and every one of those engineers utilize skills and intellect far, far beyond ANY of the Obamaloon idiots.
After all, the engineers got into college by their grades (not their race), they took hard courses, and passed them.
Following graduation, they actually used their knowledge - and things actually worked.
Consider the Obamaloon’s appalling demonstration of law imbicility during his times away from the prompter. Harvard passed him? Unlikely, methinks a bit of the old liberal quota system was in action there.
See above regarding hard courses and intellect.
Here is how great NASA is, the latest module to be added to the space station was built in Italy. When it arrived at Cape Kennedy it was found that critical piping connections were on the opposite side from where they were needed. At a cost of almost one million dollars this was corrected. Then when it was delivered to the Space station id still did not fit correctly.
Maybe NASA needs Toyota’s advice and not vice versa
Or maybe you don’t farm out your equipment to Italy! :-)
Have there been any deaths yet from these sudden accelerations? Do you think Toyota will ever "find the problem"?
Nope....expect 3,333,333 exploding Toyotas.
Six shuttles built, two destroyed....so far.
Fully one third....great record.
There was on catastrophic failure but this was not in flight. Grissom, Chaffe and White were burned to death on the launch pad in the capsule. At that time NASA was using 100% oxygen in the apollo capsule. This led to engineering changes and procedures and capsule design.
I consider Apollo 1 an R&D or training disaster.
And the Apollo 13 crew avoided a catastrophic failure by the skin of their teeth.
the government has an employee policy known as TAD. It is Temporary Area Duty. As in.....
He is employed at the department in DC, but is now TAD to Hurlbert to conduct the runway concrete tests
We now have a situation where General Motors engineers are TAD to Houston to go over all the Toyota internal documents to resolve the acceleration problem. Lacking automotive engineers, NASA requests some TAD from General Motors, the auto manufacturing agency of the Federal Government.