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Former New York Mayor Ed Koch: Obama is willing to 'throw Israel under a bus to please Muslims'
Telegraph UK ^ | April 3rd, 2010 | Stephanie Gutmann

Posted on 04/03/2010 1:51:47 PM PDT by opentalk

One of New York City’s most famous and influential Jews, former mayor Ed Koch, longtime Democrat — and longtime mayor (he governed New York for eleven years) — is showing distinct signs of buyer’s remorse. And anecdotal evidence gathered by him — and me in my sojourns around New York and New Jersey — suggest that Hiz Honor’s emotional trajectory is fairly representative of a growing disenchantment among Jews who voted for Obama.

The “falling out of love,” the term Mayor Koch used in an August commentary where he began expressing doubts, has been gradual. First there was the handling of the health care bill. Then the President’s failure to extract quid pro quos from Russia and China, then the “underwear bomber” affair. But it was Obama’s recent treatment of Benjamin Netanyahu at the White House (refusing to allow photographs, sequestering the world leader in a room and then leaving him there while he went to have dinner with his family with the instruction “call me if anything changes”) that seems to have pushed the rambunctious former mayor over a kind of edge.

Several days ago Koch, who is still a practising lawyer, caused a media stir by publishing a commentary titled “Never Again Should We Be Silent”. The essay, which declares that “President Obama’s abysmal attitude toward the state of Israel and his humiliating treatment of Prime Minister Netanyahu is shocking” was widely reproduced in other media. He received about 500 emails (overwhelmingly supportive of his point), and then there was the kicker, on April 1, (and, no it wasn’t an April Fool’s joke). He went on the Fox Business News network where he told host Neil Cavuto, “I believe the Obama administration is willing to throw Israel under the bus in order to please the Muslim nations.”

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhofascism; bhoislamism; crushislam; democrats; dhimmicrats; enemywithin; iran; islam; israel; koch; muslims; nuclear; obama; puppet; saudi; underthebus
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1 posted on 04/03/2010 1:51:47 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

I believe this was originally published in “Duh” Magazine.


2 posted on 04/03/2010 1:53:43 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (:: Happy Dependence Day!. ::)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Shame on Koch for voting for him.


3 posted on 04/03/2010 1:54:12 PM PDT by Perdogg (Nancy Pelosi did more damage to America on 03/21 than Al Qaeda did on 09/11)
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To: opentalk

Jews that voted for Obama must not know the history of other Fascists. They are Fascist’s number one most likely group to be exterminated by them.


4 posted on 04/03/2010 1:55:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Be still & kneel before the all knowing/seeing Omnipotent One, Il Douche' Jr. blessings be upon him.)
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To: opentalk

You’re a little late to the party, Ed. Too soon old, too late smart.


5 posted on 04/03/2010 1:55:47 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You don't have to be ignorant to be a Democrat...but if you are...so what?)
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To: Past Your Eyes

Hasn’t changed, but he sounds so rational...duh


6 posted on 04/03/2010 1:59:45 PM PDT by DWC (what do kids know about)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I swear I read it on a thread on FR, first.


7 posted on 04/03/2010 2:00:09 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: opentalk

8 posted on 04/03/2010 2:01:14 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: opentalk
related link referenced in article:Never Again Should We Be Silent

To its credit, Congress, according to the Daily News, has acted differently towards Prime Minister Netanyahu than President Obama. Reporter Richard Sisk wrote on March 24th, Congress put on a rare show of bipartisanship for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu yesterday - a sharp contrast to his chilly reception at the White House.

"We in Congress stand by Israel," House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) told a beaming Netanyahu, who has refused to budge on White House and State Department demands to freeze settlements in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. But Congress does not make foreign policy

The President of the United States determines our foreign policy - nearly unilaterally - under our Constitution. So those Congressional bipartisan wishes of support, while welcome, will not protect Israel in these areas -- only the President can do that. Based on his actions to date, I have serious doubts.

9 posted on 04/03/2010 2:01:22 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: SJackson; Nachum; SunkenCiv; Yehuda; MestaMachine; jhpigott

*ping*


10 posted on 04/03/2010 2:04:56 PM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: opentalk
Praise Be …
11 posted on 04/03/2010 2:06:39 PM PDT by auboy (Men who cannot deceive others are very often successful at deceiving themselves. Samuel Johnson)
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To: opentalk

We tried to warn everyone. They wouldn’t listen; they had fogged minds and glazed eyes.


12 posted on 04/03/2010 2:08:27 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ( Don't retreat, just reload.)
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To: opentalk

Jimmy “The Anti-Semite” Carter was the prior Democrat President who burnt his bridges with the Jews and had only four years at the helm.

Barack Obama gave the Jews a lot of indications he would be worse than Jimmy “The Anti-Semite” Carter and still the Jews voted for Obama the Muslim.

Go figure.

Why does it take the Jews so long to figure out who are their friends and who are their enemies?


13 posted on 04/03/2010 2:09:09 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: opentalk

Fun to about now remember Mrs. Bill Clinton giving Mrs. Arafat a big hug.
Oh yeah and Mrs. Clinton saying, “you f-ing Jew bastard”.
And how obammy is really a moosie.
And lastly all them American Jews voting for obummer.


14 posted on 04/03/2010 2:14:10 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (Just say NO to RINOs. (FUBO))
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To: opentalk

One lousy hour of internet research would have told you that long before the election, Ed. Dumbazz!


15 posted on 04/03/2010 2:18:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (Duncan Hunter, Jim DeMint, Michelle Bachman, ...)
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To: opentalk

So, Mr. Mayor, who did you vote for?


16 posted on 04/03/2010 2:22:41 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Only stupid, racists people support Obama.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
from another article out of UK:

---At the same time, President Obama has weakened America’s alliances while kowtowing to America’s enemies. Great Britain and Israel, Washington’s closest allies in Europe and the Middle East, have been treated with sneering contempt, while hostile regimes have been greeted with the extended hand of friendship.

-- When a great nation turns on its own friends and embraces its adversaries you know there is something fundamentally wrong with its leadership.

Barack Obama’s imperial hubris will usher in American decline thread

17 posted on 04/03/2010 2:26:06 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: auboy

18 posted on 04/03/2010 2:29:46 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
When a great nation turns on its own friends and embraces its adversaries you know there is something fundamentally wrong with its leadership.

I keep hoping that this is akin to the Corleone idea of "keeping your friends close, but your enemies closer." But I don't think that's the case here.

Mark

19 posted on 04/03/2010 2:45:33 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Tribune7

Koch went very public during the campaign to convince American Jews that Hussein was “safe” and was a “friend of Israel”. Meanwhile, there’s video out there of Koch claiming he was “scared to death” of Sarah Palin (yes, the same Sarah Palin with the Israeli flag in her gubernatorial office) because (1) 2 “reputable” sources (NY Times and AP) “corroborated” the charge that she wanted to ban books from the Wasila library (charge that was conclusively debunked) and that (2) she’s not a fan of abortion. I’m an American Jew - one of the few in my family who’s conservative. I truly believe that unfettered access to abortion is the trump card for the Jewish vote. Don’t ask me to explain it, but it’s a non-starter for the majority of my tribesmen if you want to restrict the big A in any way.
As I argue with my family, there’s a reason why we’ve been repeatedly persecuted and slaughtered. There definitely is a suicidal gene in our DNA! Just look at how American Jews are approaching Israel of late. We all know that Israel - for us - serves as a “safety valve” for modern Jews that our grandparents and great-grandparents didn’t have in the 1st half of the 20th century. Yet, we’re all concerned about the “human rights” of the surrounding savages who plot tirelessly to murder Israel’s women and children. And, we vote for “diplomacy” in our own elections - when we know full well that this never works and the end result is certain to be a nuclear Iranian state run by Mahdi-worshipping fanatics who are actively telegraphing their gameplan (get the bomb and eradicate the state of Israel!).

Again, I can’t explain it. I - and my philosophical brethren - do realize that the only force keeping Israel safe is the strong support given her by (primarily evangelical) Christian community in this country.


20 posted on 04/03/2010 2:47:41 PM PDT by nuvista (Obama-care - you think that arrogant Marxist "cares" about you?)
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To: opentalk

America won’t be there for Israel and people like Koch are to blame...hell, America is not even there for it’s own people anymore

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdrvtiSmP1w

This is from a lost time...and hopefully we can gain some of what we lost after this nightmare wannabe dictator gets voted out of office


21 posted on 04/03/2010 3:01:25 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: nuvista

Liberals are liberals first. They bow to their gods Abortion and Sodomy.


22 posted on 04/03/2010 3:07:33 PM PDT by rae4palin (RESIST--REPEAL--IMPEACH)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
We tried to warn everyone. They wouldn’t listen; they had fogged minds and glazed eyes.

Obama Zombies.

http://www.amazon.com/Obama-Zombies-Liberal-Brainwashed-Generation/dp/1439172072

23 posted on 04/03/2010 3:09:32 PM PDT by auboy (Men who cannot deceive others are very often successful at deceiving themselves. Samuel Johnson)
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To: auboy

http://www.amazon.com/Obama-Zombies-Liberal-Brainwashed-Generation/dp/1439172072


24 posted on 04/03/2010 3:11:46 PM PDT by auboy (Men who cannot deceive others are very often successful at deceiving themselves. Samuel Johnson)
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To: opentalk

For sure Obama will throw Israel under the bus. Yet people are missing the big truth - all the Arab nations want Iran destroyed and they pray the Israelis will do this. They will angrily scream in the streets but then thank Allah in their homes that the Iranian menace is finally dead. Why is this not reported in America?


25 posted on 04/03/2010 3:18:15 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: Perdogg
Precisely.
Intelligent person should be able to make intelligent decisions and not spend years deciphering a phony.
26 posted on 04/03/2010 3:21:56 PM PDT by alecqss
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To: opentalk

What is even worse. He is trying to throw America under the bus to satisfy his huge ego.


27 posted on 04/03/2010 3:22:23 PM PDT by mulligan
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To: DoughtyOne

They don’t know such history, and it wouldn’t change their mind if they did. They are “D” first.


28 posted on 04/03/2010 3:23:24 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: opentalk

Are you sure that picture is not from a Toilet Paper Bride Contest?


29 posted on 04/03/2010 3:24:08 PM PDT by Colvin (Proud Owner '66 Binder PU, '66 Binder Travelall,)
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To: nuvista

Look - ObamaKhan is setting the stage for another holocaust. The world needs to destroy Iran’s ability to wage war - and I don’t care about the Russians and Chinese. Frankly - even the Arab world wants Iran destroyed, they are all afraid. Hamas is running around planning the murder of millions of Jews, and Iran sending arms - this has got to stop.

ObamaKhan’s weak leadership is destabilizing the Middle East.

When W Bush left office - Libya had surrendered its nukes, Iraq would no longer pursue them and Iran had none. Had Bush not waged the pre-emptive war, Libya would have become a full fledged nuclear power, Saddam would have clearly re-armed and Iran would be on the brink as it is now. It would be the flash point for WWIII with three freakin nutjobs each with an atomic bomb. That would be the world of Kerry-Gore-MichaelMoore. Bush did the world a huge favor - saving potentially millions of lives - now watch ObamaKhan let these Iranian psychos get the bomb and undo the work. Great leadership!


30 posted on 04/03/2010 3:51:17 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: opentalk

he he he he


31 posted on 04/03/2010 3:53:21 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
Go figure. Why does it take the Jews so long to figure out who are their friends and who are their enemies?

I am not 100% sure so I will take a wild guess. Remember, it is only a wild guess. Perhaps many Jews in Israel are liberals like American liberals, who are ashamed of their own counties. Many American liberals would like to see America reduced to a 3rd world country. Is it possible many liberal Jews in Irael also want their own country to become a 3rd world country as well?

32 posted on 04/03/2010 3:53:24 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: opentalk

Don’t expect much from an immoral homosexual.


33 posted on 04/03/2010 3:53:30 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Free the Navy Seals)
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To: opentalk
Good lord he has a brain after all. Hey life long Dim...most liberals hate the Jews. Wake up you fool!!!
34 posted on 04/03/2010 3:59:28 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Past Your Eyes

Very well said!!


35 posted on 04/03/2010 4:00:00 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: DoughtyOne
Jews that voted for Obama must not know the history of other Fascists. They are Fascist’s number one most likely group to be exterminated by them.
But he's black. He can't be a Hitler if he's black. /sarc
36 posted on 04/03/2010 4:19:16 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
Why does it take the Jews so long to figure out who are their friends and who are their enemies?
Because so many of them love Socialism more than they love life. Literally.
37 posted on 04/03/2010 4:20:30 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: nuvista
Maybe Obama is God's way of getting the good guys on the same side.
38 posted on 04/03/2010 4:32:00 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Only stupid, racists people support Obama.)
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To: Tribune7

Well, he is the “Great Uniter”, right??? /s


39 posted on 04/03/2010 4:36:35 PM PDT by nuvista (Obama-care - you think that arrogant Marxist "cares" about you?)
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To: opentalk

How stupid he was. All the evidence was there showing his roots with Jeremiah Wright...an American Hater and a Jew hater.


40 posted on 04/03/2010 4:38:23 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: nuvista
No sarcasm. You may be right, just not in the way he thinks he is.
41 posted on 04/03/2010 4:40:01 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Only stupid, racists people support Obama.)
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To: Theodore R.

Fraid so...


42 posted on 04/03/2010 5:05:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Be still & kneel before the all knowing/seeing Omnipotent One, Il Douche' Jr. blessings be upon him.)
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To: opentalk

A bit late. I bet he thought Hitler was a great guy till they discovered the camps.


43 posted on 04/03/2010 5:11:02 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: samtheman

That does seem to be the take of some people.


44 posted on 04/03/2010 5:13:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Be still & kneel before the all knowing/seeing Omnipotent One, Il Douche' Jr. blessings be upon him.)
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To: rmlew; Yehuda

ping


45 posted on 04/03/2010 5:16:05 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: HereInTheHeartland
We tried to warn everyone. They wouldn’t listen; they had fogged minds and glazed eyes.

And veiled hearts.

46 posted on 04/03/2010 5:19:31 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: nuvista

Thanks for posting that, nuvista. I am an evangelical Christian who loves Israel and the Jewish people and it perplexes me to no end that American Jews (and I suppose Israeli ones, too) will vote against their own best interests in such overwhelming numbers. I get so disgusted with them that I just want to say “to hell with them” at times. But then I read things like you just wrote above and it gives me hope.
I’m afraid things are going to have to get fearfully worse before many will change their voting habits. I’d like to think Ed Koch is a smart man but he sure could use some wising up and it may be too late.


47 posted on 04/03/2010 5:48:20 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You don't have to be ignorant to be a Democrat...but if you are...so what?)
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"Again, I can’t explain it. I - and my philosophical brethren - do realize that the only force keeping Israel safe is the strong support given her by (primarily evangelical) Christian community in this country."


And when that fails...

26 There is none like unto the God of Jeshurun, who rideth upon the heaven in thy help, and in his excellency on the sky.

27 The eternal God is thy refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms: and he shall thrust out the enemy from before thee; and shall say, Destroy them.

28 Israel then shall dwell in safety alone: the fountain of Jacob shall be upon a land of corn and wine; also his heavens shall drop down dew.

29 Happy art thou, O Israel: who is like unto thee, O people saved by the Lord, the shield of thy help, and who is the sword of thy excellency! and thine enemies shall be found liars unto thee; and thou shalt tread upon their high places.

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48 posted on 04/03/2010 5:55:13 PM PDT by Salem (What can men do against such reckless hate? ... Ride out with me. Ride out and meet them!)
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49 posted on 04/03/2010 5:57:12 PM PDT by SJackson (Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel and it must remain undivided, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Tribune7

Too true! Unity coalescing on the opposition side...


50 posted on 04/03/2010 6:15:45 PM PDT by nuvista (Obama-care - you think that arrogant Marxist "cares" about you?)
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