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4/6/10 | central_va

Posted on 04/06/2010 5:20:47 AM PDT by central_va

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How Long...

Until the first Tuesday in November.

Depending on what happens then until January.

After that, no promises.
41 posted on 04/06/2010 11:59:55 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

How about when half of the population insists on the enslavement of the other half, through the use of the force of the state?


42 posted on 04/06/2010 12:00:07 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: MrB

“We’ll see if the left attempts to seal shut the ballot box of liberty this fall.”

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How will we know?

Who is going to tell us if this is being done?

Do the Republicans, or better, The Tea Party have a specific, boots-on-the-ground, precinct-by-precinct plan for watching the thieves and usurpers?


43 posted on 04/06/2010 12:02:58 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: EyeGuy
How will we know?

An attempt to shift a close election by a full percentage point gets suspecious. Shifting by more than three or four percent would be blatantly obvious.

That is why I give us much better chances in the house. In the senate the Dems can cheat up votes in districts that are overwhelmingly dem. If a district votes 75% dem nobody is surprised when it votes 85% dem. But when a district has been locked in a battle with the GOP up five points the day before the election and ends up with the GOP down five points it is obvious somebody was stuffing the boxes.
44 posted on 04/06/2010 12:13:18 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: GonzoGOP
Until the first Tuesday in November.

I really can't see us making it that far.

45 posted on 04/06/2010 12:14:05 PM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: central_va
The combination of frustration and testosterone is a powerful force, no? But I happen to share both of these conditions myself. Just makes you want to kill somebody doesn't it? ;^)

The real question is when, if ever, the people will start to ask why stay together at all……

As impatient as we are, we might want to concede a little time for some forces slowly moving in the right direction. I believe the TEA Partiers will likely only gain in popularity and influence, maybe enough to generate a rout of DC. As you're also no doubt aware, many States have begun to give the feral government some much needed blowback. Just ONE victory will probably set a course and clear a path for many to follow. This will take some time.

A larger question might be, how to "fix" much of the huge nanny state apparatus in existence without a good deal of pain and suffering of non-combatants? Families will need to commit to taking care of their own once again without the assistance of Uncle Sugar. The financial and economic ramifications to our consumer based economy could be devastating. All part of the plan to set the hook that will be very difficult to shake -- but not impossible.

46 posted on 04/06/2010 12:15:16 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have just two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: central_va
Never give up; never give in. We surround them.

The commies are bluffing, trying to discourage conservative voters. They are trying every dirty trick to split the conservative vote. It will only work if we let it work. They do not have the numbers or the power to do any of the carp they are threatening.

If the voters ignore the bluffs, we have enough votes to overwhelm their fraud.

47 posted on 04/06/2010 12:15:45 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: ForGod'sSake; central_va

Walter Williams has an article in IBD on an amicable divorce.

It’s possible of course, and most logically achieved along state lines. However, the left, beyond wanting to freeload on the backs of others, seeks CONTROL of others. They aren’t going to let people out from under their thumb without a fight.


48 posted on 04/06/2010 12:17:39 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: central_va
I really can't see us making it that far.

I do, only because until hope is gone most people won't give up everything to fight. When the founding fathers swore their lives, fortunes and sacred honor they were not being figurative. The price of rebellion is very high and few will pay it so long as there is any hope of an alternative.

If the elections are canceled or are a farce then the rebellion will start. But we won't know that until November, hence my statement.

After the election is the question of if the new congress will be seated, and what power they will have under and Obama dictatorship. If they are not seated or if Obama rules by fiat then the rebellion will come. But we won't know that until January, hence my second date.
49 posted on 04/06/2010 12:18:04 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: meadsjn
Never give up; never give in. We surround them.

I worry I'll be to old when the "fun" really starts. I can still "hump" a few miles, but for how much longer? If not now, when - ever?

50 posted on 04/06/2010 12:20:10 PM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: MrB

I read that excellent article by Williams and he doesn’t allow much for the restoration of our Constitution. There have been and always be, freeloaders. Without the cultivation and encouragement by the federales they are virtually powerless. Constitutional principles when restored will once again render them powerless to pick our pockets. As difficult as it may be, it could STILL happen. Dismantling the nanny state will be a formidable undertaking. Will the parasites feeding at the taxpayers’ trough learn to fend for themselves? ONLY if they have no choice. Either that or die, one way or another.


51 posted on 04/06/2010 12:29:03 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have just two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Restoration will come about faster following a separation.
The collectivists will be left with nothing but looters and takers,
and all the productive people will move to where they are free.

The former will collapse very quickly,
and the latter will already have the Constitutional principals in place.


52 posted on 04/06/2010 12:38:15 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: ForGod'sSake

“As impatient as we are, we might want to concede a little time for some forces slowly moving in the right direction. “

Impatient is right. The people are organizing and state legislatures are starting to move. Reaction to tyranny doesn’t happen overnight.

It took the founders 25 years - from 1750 till 1775 - to organize, find
leadership and take on the British Crown.

Turning populations around is much like turning an aircraft carrier into the opposite direction. It takes time.

The system the Founders set up is moving and both lawful and legal remedies are being pursued. The “cease and desist” letter is being written and will be delivered to DC shortly. Let it play out and see what happens.

In the meantime, let’s not roll the guillotines down Pennsylvania Avenue yet.


53 posted on 04/06/2010 12:50:27 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: MrB
Restoration will come about faster following a separation. The collectivists will be left with nothing but looters and takers, and all the productive people will move to where they are free. The former will collapse very quickly, and the latter will already have the Constitutional principals in place.

In total agreement!

54 posted on 04/06/2010 1:06:03 PM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: ml/nj

You speak the frustrations of many.


yep


55 posted on 04/06/2010 1:32:38 PM PDT by chasio649 (37-21)
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To: MrB
Restoration will come about faster following a separation.

If the parasitic class waits until the wreckage is cleared away, they may be obliged to cool their heels a spell, and might learn some valuable lessons in the process. I haven't given it a great deal of thought but my suspicion is the economic and cultural impact of getting even portions of the country back to its core principles will be enormous. How do we eliminate all the entitlements(not to mention the bloated bureaucracy) bankrupting the country that make up roughly half the US budget? Cold turkey? Someone with more brain power than mine will need to study the issue. The bottom line however may be that, regardless of how severe, the price we'll pay will be worth it to restore our Constitution and reclaim our republic.

56 posted on 04/06/2010 4:15:54 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have just two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: sergeantdave
In the meantime, let’s not roll the guillotines down Pennsylvania Avenue yet.

I'm willing to give it til Nov 2010. If we don't see impressive movement towards restoration, well let's just put it this way, as old and out of shape as I am, I would begin an exercise routine. We may not be able to count on the younger crowd.

57 posted on 04/06/2010 4:22:04 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have just two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: ForGod'sSake

“as old and out of shape as I am, I would begin an exercise routine...”

Don’t wait for November. Start morning walks now. Get yourself in the best fighting shape you can, according to your ability.

We have a very weak and stupid federal bureaucracy. That’s obuma’s “army.” If you haven’t looked, check out the BATF pictures. Most are tipping the scales at 300 lbs. plus. If ambushed, these turds in ninja clown suits will have trouble running 100 yards to cover. Most will collapse from strokes or heart attacks.

Do what you want, but our enemy is in worse shape than 75% of Americans.


58 posted on 04/06/2010 5:47:17 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave
Don’t wait for November. Start morning walks now.

Hey, wait a second! Let's not get carried away here!! ;^)

Getting out to the mailbox and back is as often as not, a challenge. Several things contribute to that, not the least of which is a hip that goes on strike occasionally. Being a dedicated smoker for most of 50 years doesn't help but I have no desire to quit, either. At this point, it's just one of the simple pleasures(hack, hack) in life. Your advice is sound but I doubt I'll be running anybody down, or running away either for that matter. However, if they come for me or mine on my turf, they best come prepared.

59 posted on 04/06/2010 6:42:07 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have just two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: central_va

>> How long can a nation stay together ...

We need to think about bridging the divide carved out by the Left. The enemy Left wants us at war with one another.


60 posted on 04/06/2010 6:52:40 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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