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Confirmed: Obama Authorizes Assassination of U.S. Citizen
Salon ^ | Wednesday, April 7, 2010 | Glenn Greenwald

Posted on 04/07/2010 7:24:39 AM PDT by kristinn

In late January, I wrote about the Obama administration's "presidential assassination program," whereby American citizens are targeted for killings far away from any battlefield, based exclusively on unchecked accusations by the Executive Branch that they're involved in Terrorism. At the time, The Washington Post's Dana Priest had noted deep in a long article that Obama had continued Bush's policy (which Bush never actually implemented) of having the Joint Chiefs of Staff compile "hit lists" of Americans, and Priest suggested that the American-born Islamic cleric Anwar al-Awlaki was on that list. The following week, Obama's Director of National Intelligence, Adm. Dennis Blair, acknowledged in Congressional testimony that the administration reserves the "right" to carry out such assassinations.

Today, both The New York Times and The Washington Post confirm that the Obama White House has now expressly authorized the CIA to kill al-Alwaki no matter where he is found, no matter his distance from a battlefield. I wrote at length about the extreme dangers and lawlessness of allowing the Executive Branch the power to murder U.S. citizens far away from a battlefield (i.e., while they're sleeping, at home, with their children, etc.) and with no due process of any kind. I won't repeat those arguments -- they're here and here -- but I do want to highlight how unbelievably Orwellian and tyrannical this is in light of these new articles today.

Just consider how the NYT reports on Obama's assassination order and how it is justified:

The Obama administration has taken the extraordinary step of authorizing the targeted killing of an American citizen, the radical Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, who is believed to have shifted from encouraging attacks on the United States to directly participating in them, intelligence and counterterrorism officials said Tuesday. . . .

American counterterrorism officials say Mr. Awlaki is an operative of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, the affiliate of the terror network in Yemen and Saudi Arabia. They say they believe that he has become a recruiter for the terrorist network, feeding prospects into plots aimed at the United States and at Americans abroad, the officials said.

It is extremely rare, if not unprecedented, for an American to be approved for targeted killing, officials said. A former senior legal official in the administration of George W. Bush said he did not know of any American who was approved for targeted killing under the former president. . . .

"The danger Awlaki poses to this country is no longer confined to words," said an American official, who like other current and former officials interviewed for this article spoke of the classified counterterrorism measures on the condition of anonymity. "He’s gotten involved in plots."

No due process is accorded. No charges or trials are necessary. No evidence is offered, nor any opportunity for him to deny these accusations (which he has done vehemently through his family). None of that.

Instead, in Barack Obama's America, the way guilt is determined for American citizens -- and a death penalty imposed -- is that the President, like the King he thinks he is, secretly decrees someone's guilt as a Terrorist. He then dispatches his aides to run to America's newspapers -- cowardly hiding behind the shield of anonymity which they're granted -- to proclaim that the Guilty One shall be killed on sight because the Leader has decreed him to be a Terrorist. It is simply asserted that Awlaki has converted from a cleric who expresses anti-American views and advocates attacks on American military targets (advocacy which happens to be Constitutionally protected) to Actual Terrorist "involved in plots." These newspapers then print this Executive Verdict with no questioning, no opposition, no investigation, no refutation as to its truth. And the punishment is thus decreed: this American citizen will now be murdered by the CIA because Barack Obama has ordered that it be done. What kind of person could possibly justify this or think that this is a legitimate government power?

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To: A Texan
Keep in mind that Bush never authorized wiretaps of American citizens specifically. He authorized wiretaps of phone calls entering the US from from nations with known terrorist. Whoever received those calls within the United States could have been citizen or non-citizen. The Bush Administration was using the wiretaps to locate terrorist cells operating within the US. This was not a unprecedented practice. However the ordered assassination of a US citizen because he is "believed" to be a direct threat IS UNPRECEDENTED!

Compare this to Obama's policy with regard to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the CONFESSED mastermind of 9-11! Though a non-citizen. . .he gets mirandized and a full show trial in Manhattan. Obama is nuts, out of control or both.

101 posted on 04/07/2010 8:36:34 AM PDT by McBuff
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To: ruschpa

There’d still be a big debate. One of the things that were constantly on many Freepers’ minds was: what if the next Democrat president (or Congress) does what we are liking their Republican counterpart to do now?


102 posted on 04/07/2010 8:37:55 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: wideminded

Mecca isn’t in Texas.


103 posted on 04/07/2010 8:38:20 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: kristinn
Instead, in Barack Obama's America, the way guilt is determined for American citizens -- and a death penalty imposed -- is that the President, like the King he thinks he is, secretly decrees someone's guilt as a Terrorist. He then dispatches his aides to run to America's newspapers -- cowardly hiding behind the shield of anonymity which they're granted -- to proclaim that the Guilty One shall be killed on sight because the Leader has decreed him to be a Terrorist.

>snip<

What kind of person could possibly justify this or think that this is a legitimate government power?

The crux of the matter is that no matter how unpopular this man may be, for whatever reason, as an American Citizen he should be accorded his Constitutional Rights to a trial.

If Obama is willing to import non-citizen detainees to give them trials, surely the declaration of a Citizen as a target for extermination, no matter how much we may revile his alleged actions of beliefs, is beyond presidential powers and the most dangerous usurpation yet.

How long before Obama declares any of those of us on the Right "terrorists"?

Oh, wait. He already has.

104 posted on 04/07/2010 8:39:14 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: MestaMachine
...and why announce your intent to assassinate other than to send him a message to clam up and go deep. Your post makes a lot of sense. Obama and Hassan must be closer than reported.
105 posted on 04/07/2010 8:39:27 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: kristinn
Greenwald notes further in the article that this is one power President George W. Bush never claimed.

This is the most dangerous regime ever.

106 posted on 04/07/2010 8:40:22 AM PDT by NeoCaveman ("workers of the world unite, it's not just a slogan anymore" SEIU's Andy Stern)
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To: kristinn

**hit lists” of Americans**

Tell me this is not true!


107 posted on 04/07/2010 8:40:38 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Travis McGee; OldNavyVet
If we suspect, at the highest levels of government, that this guy hiding in Yemen (who is an American citizen) is guilty of treason...and he may be...then we should try and apprehend him and bring him to trial and justice As the Constitution directs. Just like we have issued an arrest warrant and held a grand-jury for the American acting as Al Quida's internet press spokesmen who is also an American.

If in the process of attempting to make that arrest they fight and he is killed, so be it.

But the Constitution calls for a grand jury, a fair trial by jury of his peers, etc. NOT an execution order.

I believe we should do all in our power to catch and bring this guy to justice based on the charges against him.

I DO NOT believe the President, attorney general, vice-president, etc., etc. has the power to circumvent the constitution and issue death warrants for American citizens with no trial, no jury, nno evidence, no chance to refute the charges. To agree to such is to invite total tyranny and allow a tyrant to supress any dissent at the point of the sword.


THE MAN WHO DESPISES AMERICA

108 posted on 04/07/2010 8:40:46 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

Obama is an enemy of the United States. Everything he does is done to hurt us. No exceptions!


109 posted on 04/07/2010 8:43:28 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: kristinn

I’ll bet the liberals are screaming their lungs out over this...... ?.......? I don’t hear anything......

Oh yeah, It’s not George Bush doing it, that is the difference!


110 posted on 04/07/2010 8:44:34 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: verity

111 posted on 04/07/2010 8:45:12 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Jeff Head

Well put.

Just dont give them a fat lip during the capture. /s


112 posted on 04/07/2010 8:45:36 AM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Jeff Head

Unless Bummer is just woofin’ and the real idea is to send him a message to zip his tale telling lips.


113 posted on 04/07/2010 8:45:45 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: kristinn
So why don't they just revoke his citizenship first

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican) ?

114 posted on 04/07/2010 8:45:55 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Lazamataz; kristinn

Ours is not a perfect world and relying on bringing justice home has its limits.

Think about how a 19th century ship’s captain would handle this “citizen.”


115 posted on 04/07/2010 8:46:09 AM PDT by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years.)
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To: Michael Barnes

Yes murdering a woman, not very nice.. I wonder if he is living large on his pension...


116 posted on 04/07/2010 8:46:30 AM PDT by crazydad (What)
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To: wideminded
All the people here who normally want to nuke Mecca (even if some Americans are among the casualties) seem to be suddenly getting religion about due process.

Nuke Mecca after a fair trial.

I mean, how hard was that?

117 posted on 04/07/2010 8:46:53 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: kristinn

Good to know dear reader has named Christians, gun owners, vets and pro-life people domestic “terrorists.” Now he can proceed to have America’s terrorist “enemies” murdered...

mmmm mmmm mmm Barack Hussein Obama mmm mmm mmm.

He’s a Muslim and a Marxist. Murdering enemies that threaten your power is not as foreign to him as embodying and obeying the American constitution.

In the meantime he has cleaned the words “radical Islam” from homeland security which I find an honest move. All of Islam is radical; it is not a “religion of peace.” Some Muslims take it seriously and some don’t; but any who do take it seriously, are dangerous to any notion of Western freedom. That would be Obama.


118 posted on 04/07/2010 8:47:46 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: reagan_fanatic

Castro keeps coming to mind.


119 posted on 04/07/2010 8:48:57 AM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (Give me Liberty.. or I'll get up and get it for myself!)
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To: Jeff Head
If we suspect, at the highest levels of government, that this guy hiding in Yemen (who is an American citizen) is guilty of treason...and he may be...then we should try and apprehend him and bring him to trial and justice As the Constitution directs. Just like we have issued an arrest warrant and held a grand-jury for the American acting as Al Quida's internet press spokesmen who is also an American.

If in the process of attempting to make that arrest they fight and he is killed, so be it.

But the Constitution calls for a grand jury, a fair trial by jury of his peers, etc. NOT an execution order.

THIS is why we need you alive. I get angry at people who back this sort of stuff, and my emotion clouds my thought.

You are succinct and well-reasoned.

So, any update?

120 posted on 04/07/2010 8:49:07 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: wideminded

You are talking apples and organes here. There is a huge difference between targeting an American citizen for assasination without due process and targeting someone like Osama Bin Laden. Surely you ‘get’ that distinction.

President Bush never went this far because he understood our rights under our constitution. Even though this guy may be a scumbag islamic terrorist and deserves the ‘death penalty’, he is entitled to a trial first. This is dangerous territory we are entering into and Zero is just getting warmed up. All he has to do now is ‘deem’ any American citizen a threat and target them for state sanctioned assasination.


121 posted on 04/07/2010 8:51:36 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: kristinn
The following week, Obama's Director of National Intelligence, Adm. Dennis Blair, acknowledged in Congressional testimony that the administration reserves the "right" to carry out such assassinations.

Then he has the "right" to carry out assassinations on any of us.

122 posted on 04/07/2010 8:52:11 AM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenerio at a time.)
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To: toast
Examples of people convicted in absentia are:

Some of these are American convictions.

124 posted on 04/07/2010 8:53:04 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Lazamataz
We are leaving to begin the long drive to Houston on Saturday or Sunday. We will probably stop at my brother's in Denton for a day or two and be in Houston next weekend. The following week is full of appointments with the four surgical teams, CT scans, blood tests, and MRIs.

Then the following week (April 27th and 30th) are the surgeries.

The prayers, faith, encouragement, kindness and help shown me and my family has been a blessing from God and an inspiration. I cannot express how much they are helping me and my wife and kids. God bless all who help others and do so out of the goodness and compassion of their hearts.

I look forward, if it is God's will, to the time when I get past this and can be once again in a position to help others as myself and family are being helped now.

125 posted on 04/07/2010 8:55:29 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Caesar Soze
The Constitution has always provided a military solution to insurrections. No Miranda rights required.

Bullsh!t.

Even during the Whiskey Rebellion, Washington served the insurrectionists with papers to appear in court, and all the accused received a court trial, even those who were executed.

You don't lose your Constitutional rights with respect to the US government simply because you're overseas.

126 posted on 04/07/2010 8:55:29 AM PDT by GunRunner
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To: kristinn

Didn’t this Administration recently condemn Israel for sending out a hit squad to do pretty much the same thing to a Palestinian terrorist in a hotel?


127 posted on 04/07/2010 8:56:27 AM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (Give me Liberty.. or I'll get up and get it for myself!)
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To: wideminded

Not hardly. Awlaki knows things. He might have valuable information of attacks that have not yet taken place here.
We did not do THIS even for bin laden. Bin Laden was wanted dead or alive. There is NO such admonition here. There is something about this particular person that changes everything. We want to know what...and why.
Is that too hard to understand?
And if abu can do this, any merc with a black heart can be given the same instruction and it might be anyone this administraion considers an enemy. The track record of this administration and what it does to enemies, real or perceived, makes me very uncomfortable with this order.
abu has set off an intifada agaonst Israel in which people have been killed. He has no conscience. THAT is a problem whether you acknowledge it or not.
Khalid Sheik Mohammad’s head should be rotting on a pike somewhere in full view of the entire world. Yet abu has done everything in his power to save this worthless creature who, if tried in a civilian court, might someday breathe free. That doesn’t bother you?
WHAT changes with Awlaki? Something isn’t right here.


128 posted on 04/07/2010 8:57:40 AM PDT by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: Jeff Head
Aw hell, this should be public. I am so PRIVILEGED to have been a small part of the people who helped you. I so hope this makes the difference and that you and I are friends for another decade, and another still. LOVE YOU!
129 posted on 04/07/2010 8:59:01 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

Exactly!


130 posted on 04/07/2010 8:59:39 AM PDT by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allerious; ...



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131 posted on 04/07/2010 9:00:21 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: kristinn

If the American citizen takes up arms against the United States, don’t they become a legitimate target?


132 posted on 04/07/2010 9:00:57 AM PDT by popdonnelly (I'm so old, I remember when free enterprise was praised, and communism was shunned.)
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To: kristinn

bttt


133 posted on 04/07/2010 9:02:22 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Sowell's book, Intellectuals and Society, eviscerates the fantasies that uphold leftist thought)
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To: kristinn

Don’t know if this has already been posted, but it’s a must read...

“This particularly applies to Democrat National Chairman and ex-governor of Virginia, Tim Kaine. He has been burned by his ignorance in this area while serving as governor. His behavior in this endorsement of Dar al Hijrah could be considered dereliction by those willing to cut him a break. I think ex-Governor Tim “Judas” Kaine’s commissions are far worse than mere dereliciton.”

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2010/03/are-virginia-democrats-dumbed-down.html


134 posted on 04/07/2010 9:03:15 AM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Caesar Soze
The man is an enemy combatant whose death would disrupt Al Qaeda planning.

Possibly, but capturing and interrogating him would be far more useful. Then a quick trial, find him guilty/not guilty (I'm assuming he's really a bad guy, so guilty would be the verdict), take him out back and shoot him.

An American citizen shouldn't be targeted like this. This opens a HUGE can of worms; you can't expect such authority to be wielded justly by these people. It WILL be abused.

135 posted on 04/07/2010 9:03:30 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Lazamataz
Mecca isn’t in Texas.

Neither is Anwar al-Awlaki.

Nuke Mecca after a fair trial.

It has already been announced multiple times that Adam Gadahn was probably killed by a Hellfire missile and no one here said anything about his right to a fair trial.

136 posted on 04/07/2010 9:04:00 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: kristinn; All

Code Pink — where are you when we need you the most? < /sarc>



137 posted on 04/07/2010 9:04:48 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: for-q-clinton

“and some wish to have GW and Bush added to the hit list.”

In other words, they want all Republicans/conservatives added.


138 posted on 04/07/2010 9:06:01 AM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: popdonnelly

Please recite the Second Amendment to yourself and ask that same question again. Do you realize what you are saying?


139 posted on 04/07/2010 9:06:03 AM PDT by MestaMachine (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426869/posts SUPPORT RINO FREE AMERICA)
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To: kristinn

“The Obama administration has taken the extraordinary step of authorizing the targeted killing of an American citizen, the radical Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, who is believed to have shifted from encouraging attacks on the United States to directly participating in them”

If his name were “John Smith” I might have more of a problem with it.

I’m not sure how to feel about myself now.


140 posted on 04/07/2010 9:06:31 AM PDT by Grunthor (Over YOUR dead body!)
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To: azishot

It would not be the first time that US troops have fired on, and killed, American citizens peacefully protesting.


141 posted on 04/07/2010 9:07:31 AM PDT by Chuckster (Domari nolo!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I don't know what the big stink is about. Nobody seems to care one whit about the international terrorist currently residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. So what’s the big deal about some US rag-head running around Yemen in a bathrobe?
142 posted on 04/07/2010 9:07:55 AM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: SF_Redux; Brown Deer; subterfuge; r9etb
word games is all it is

Really?

Can’t trust Salon. How about the New York Times or Washington Post?

143 posted on 04/07/2010 9:08:07 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: kristinn
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145 posted on 04/07/2010 9:10:17 AM PDT by wolficatZ
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To: Caesar Soze
The Constitution has always provided a military solution to insurrections

But you have to be engaged in the insurrection, not simply plotting one.

We don't even assassinate foreign dictators and now we're advocating assassinating American citizens, no due process, no trial?

These are dark times indeed.

146 posted on 04/07/2010 9:10:23 AM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenerio at a time.)
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To: kristinn

Is the SA being purged? The night of long knives is upon us.


147 posted on 04/07/2010 9:11:17 AM PDT by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: April Lexington

FR cares a lot of whits about Bummer on PA Ave.


148 posted on 04/07/2010 9:16:45 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: OldNavyVet
If we can't get him in America, he should be targeted ... wherever he is.

I knew it wouldn't take long before someone piped up thinking its just dandy for the government to target some Americans for murder.

149 posted on 04/07/2010 9:17:09 AM PDT by Chuckster (Domari nolo!)
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To: toast

Remind me again which President it was that ordered the assassination of those men.


150 posted on 04/07/2010 9:17:29 AM PDT by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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