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Richard Dawkins: I Will Arrest Pope Benedict XVI
London Times ^ | April 10th 2010 | Marc Horne

Posted on 04/10/2010 11:49:41 PM PDT by Steelfish

April 11, 2010 Richard Dawkins: I Will Arrest Pope Benedict XVI Marc Horne

Atheist campaigner Richard Dawkins RICHARD DAWKINS, the atheist campaigner, is planning a legal ambush to have the Pope arrested during his state visit to Britain “for crimes against humanity”.

Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens, the atheist author, have asked human rights lawyers to produce a case for charging Pope Benedict XVI over his alleged cover-up of sexual abuse in the Catholic church.

The pair believe they can exploit the same legal principle used to arrest Augusto Pinochet, the late Chilean dictator, when he visited Britain in 1998.

The Pope was embroiled in new controversy this weekend over a letter he signed arguing that the “good of the universal church” should be considered against the defrocking of an American priest who committed sex offences against two boys. It was dated 1985, when he was in charge of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which deals with sex abuse cases.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: atheisthate; atheists; attentionwhore; dawkins; hitchens; nutjob; popebenedictxvi; richarddawkins; scientism; vatican
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This is the unspeakable depths to which the British have sunk to. They will hail a Castro or Ahmadinejad but seek to harass a saintly theologian. Try it Mr. Dawkins and just see how Catholic Italy will treat you.
1 posted on 04/10/2010 11:49:41 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

As unspeakable as a pope ignoring complaints of sexual abuse by a priest? Gross.


2 posted on 04/10/2010 11:51:13 PM PDT by IamCenny
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To: Steelfish

Just try it, you SOB.


3 posted on 04/10/2010 11:52:43 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod (New Wizard of Oz: Pelosi as the Wicked Witch of the West & Michelle as the Wicked Witch of the East.)
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To: Steelfish

HEIL HITLER!, Professor Dawkins. Adolf would be proud of you.


4 posted on 04/10/2010 11:53:16 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: Steelfish

Dawkins is an ass.

But the Roman Catholic Church has sheltered the worst types of criminals - child molesters - and as a former RC I find that horrific! It is exactly the kind of hierarchical excess that turned me away from the church in the first place.


5 posted on 04/10/2010 11:54:46 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: Steelfish
Simple solution... bring the Swiss guards and when he shows up, arrest him.

When asked how the Vatican has jurisdiction, merely state that this is the Catholic church - aka: the universal church. Therefore it has jurisdiction everywhere.

:-P

6 posted on 04/10/2010 11:55:18 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Steelfish

Richard Dawson is just another fundamentalist religious fanatic.


7 posted on 04/10/2010 11:55:26 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Steelfish
Looks like Dawkins is ignorant, stupid and insane,

(Re his "quip" in 2008 that to not believe in evolution one must be either ignorant, stupid or insane.)

8 posted on 04/10/2010 11:56:18 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Steelfish

It’s not the British. It’s Mr. Dawkins you have a problem with!


9 posted on 04/10/2010 11:56:39 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: IamCenny

It will help if you do some reading up before rushing off to judgment. It is left to the local Bishop to discipline the offending priest. Even the NYTimes doesn’t some close to saying that the Pope “ignored complaints” but rather delayed the process for defrocking until matters were first resolved at the local level. The Congregation for Doctrine of Faith doesn’t act like some 5-star general.

http://spectator.org/archives/2010/04/08/the-end-of-history-and-the-las


10 posted on 04/10/2010 11:57:27 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

Catholic Italy? Have you been drinking varnish again?


11 posted on 04/10/2010 11:58:45 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Steelfish

Imagine how these two atheist would fair in an Islamic dominated society. What a foolish behavior they have embarked on.


12 posted on 04/11/2010 12:00:38 AM PDT by BBell
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To: Steelfish

Dawkins is a great writer, good for him. I am RC and appalled by this pope.

No, he won’t arrest him, you can’t, he is a head of state. But he is not a good man, and not deserving of the title of Pope.


13 posted on 04/11/2010 12:01:11 AM PDT by big tent
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To: nickcarraway

Richard Dawson?

Who is next on your list, Charles Nelson Reilly?


14 posted on 04/11/2010 12:02:45 AM PDT by big tent
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To: BBell

Hitchens has written extensively against Islam and was even accosted in Lebanon before he fought his way out of a possible abduction. Hitchens is a great writer and he backs up what he says and is not afraid of blowback from religion.


15 posted on 04/11/2010 12:04:13 AM PDT by big tent
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To: nickcarraway

“Richard Dawson is just another fundamentalist religious fanatic.”

Truly spoken, he is a radical fundamentalist atheist.


16 posted on 04/11/2010 12:09:19 AM PDT by Persevero (Ask yourself: "What does the Left want me to do?" Then go do the opposite.)
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To: Persevero

No, Richard Dawson was on Family Feud, Match Game and Hogan’s Hero’s.


17 posted on 04/11/2010 12:10:18 AM PDT by big tent
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To: big tent

Is he going to arrest all the imams in Britain who call for “marrying” ten year olds?


18 posted on 04/11/2010 12:10:59 AM PDT by Persevero (Ask yourself: "What does the Left want me to do?" Then go do the opposite.)
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To: big tent

You don’t think he is. Think about about it for a minute.


19 posted on 04/11/2010 12:12:25 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: big tent

“No, Richard Dawson was on Family Feud, Match Game and Hogan’s Hero’s.”

Oh yes. He’s not the one out to arrest the pope, now is he?

DawKINS, keeping our Richards straight.


20 posted on 04/11/2010 12:14:22 AM PDT by Persevero (Ask yourself: "What does the Left want me to do?" Then go do the opposite.)
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To: Persevero

Hitchens has done a heck of a lot more than you as far as educating the world about Islam. He is a great writer, read his books, they are fantastic. Looking forward to his new one coming out in June.

He has actually traveled all around the middle east, he’s seen it. I’ve been to a few spots in the Muslim world, but nothing like Hitchens.


21 posted on 04/11/2010 12:15:21 AM PDT by big tent
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To: Steelfish

Dawkins seems to be stretching things even from his own point of view. Is any Briton authorized to be able to carry out a “citizens arrest” on an alleged international malefactor? Can I capture Osama Bin Ladin dead or alive if he shows up in my backyard?


22 posted on 04/11/2010 12:15:39 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Salvation; NYer

Ping!


23 posted on 04/11/2010 12:18:21 AM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: big tent

“Hitchens has done a heck of a lot more than you as far as educating the world about Islam.”

You don’t know me.


24 posted on 04/11/2010 12:20:58 AM PDT by Persevero (Ask yourself: "What does the Left want me to do?" Then go do the opposite.)
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To: Steelfish
Watch it Dawkins.

A centurion's ear is liable to get sliced off in the dust up.

25 posted on 04/11/2010 12:23:19 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (2012 Prediction! Pres. Biden vs. Fmr. SOS Clinton....with Fmr. Pres. Obama still in mental rehab)
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To: Persevero

You don’t know Hitchens. Send me your books and reports for the last 20 years, I want to read them.


26 posted on 04/11/2010 12:29:05 AM PDT by big tent
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To: Steelfish

The Pope has diplomatic immunity, he is head of the Vatican State.


27 posted on 04/11/2010 12:30:29 AM PDT by montanajoe
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To: big tent

I don’t have any books or reports. They aren’t going to do the trick.

I am a Christian. I pray to I worship the living God. I give to further the gospel. And that is what is going to destroy Islam.

Historically, at every turn, Islam is defeated by Christianity. It is the Christians and Christian nations and cultures that have kept Islam at bay. We will continue to fight it until the last day.

Atheists can’t defeat Islam. Christians can.


28 posted on 04/11/2010 12:35:21 AM PDT by Persevero (Ask yourself: "What does the Left want me to do?" Then go do the opposite.)
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To: big tent
How can you possibly be appalled by this Pope? He is brilliant,holy and humble.

If you are too young or too uninformed to see and understand what is happening right now,perhaps you should join the other excatholics on this thread and leave the Church for a while.

Pope Benedict XVI has spoken Truth with love and it is very disturbing to all the little gods and godessas in the world today who prefer their own truth subject to the love,cause,mood or whim of the day.

Do you think this world could have come to this state without the confusion and chaos created by millions of people pursuing their interests untethered to truth or reality?

29 posted on 04/11/2010 12:35:46 AM PDT by saradippity
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To: Steelfish
Without regard to the RC Church's problems, professor Dawkins is not the disinterested scientist but a fanatical anti-religious bigot of the lowest order.

Hitchens is also an aggressive atheist bigot. Yes, he speaks against Islam. So what? He speaks against all religions. I think some clergyman rapped his knuckles when he was just a wee lad and he hasn't gotten over it yet. I guess he got all wee wee'd up, to borrow an expression from the 0.

30 posted on 04/11/2010 12:36:36 AM PDT by danieldu
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To: Steelfish
“I will toss Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens in to a lake of eternal fire”

:God:

31 posted on 04/11/2010 12:37:47 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: This Just In

Seig Heil!!

Don’t you speak German?


32 posted on 04/11/2010 12:43:27 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: saradippity

Maybe because my parish had 2 dangerous pedophiles, and my high school had 1.

I don’t trust this man, he covered up and hid abuses.

If you want to call him brilliant, holy and humble, go ahead, I have my opinion. I respect yours, you should respect mine.


33 posted on 04/11/2010 12:43:54 AM PDT by big tent
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To: big tent; Persevero

Game, Set and Match.

Terrific!

Let’s have an afternoon Scotch and some tea...


34 posted on 04/11/2010 12:47:02 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Persevero

Have you ever traveled to the muslim world? Or any other place populated by non christian religions? I’ve been there, in the thick of it all. I grew up Catholic, but, I see the folly in all religions. It’s my opinion of course, you can spam me all you want, but I believe you are welcome to your own opinion. I find religion to be flawed and harmful.

But, make no mistake, I am no fan of Islam, nor is Hitchens, read his works, its illuminating.


35 posted on 04/11/2010 12:48:35 AM PDT by big tent
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To: big tent

“Richard Dawson?

Who is next on your list, Charles Nelson Reilly?”

I was going to support Soupy Sales for president until I heard that he was dead. Now I am for Drew Carey.


36 posted on 04/11/2010 12:48:45 AM PDT by HospiceNurse
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To: Steelfish
the “good of the universal church” should be considered

I knew this was going to be the rationale. How is that working out for you?

37 posted on 04/11/2010 12:49:06 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: Steelfish

As sad as it is to see the criminal acts— and the criminal covering up that a few in leadership positions did, I am still very happy and thankful to be Catholic. The acts of a small percentage of sinful men have nothing to do with the truth and worth of the Eucharist. The sacraments and my journey to Heaven are all that really matter.

I could never let the actions of criminals and idiots drive me away from Christ’s Church. Peter himself was a fool, a coward, and a denier at times; yet the other Apostles hung in there and continued to accept him as their leader. Even John, who stood alone without any of the other Apostles at the desolate foot of the cross, was back with the others by Pentecost. It must have been hard for him, having heard Peter deny Christ and having seen Peter run away when Christ needed him most. But John persevered. He remembered Christ’s words about love and forgiveness and redemption.


38 posted on 04/11/2010 12:51:39 AM PDT by Melian (The two most common elements in the world are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Can I capture Osama Bin Ladin dead or alive if he shows up in my backyard?

Actually yes. I think North Carolina is the only state that doesn't allow citizen's arrest, but they have something similar.

Of course he is wanted 'dead or alive' so......

Either way you get the reward.

39 posted on 04/11/2010 12:52:50 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Persevero
I don’t have any books or reports.

Oh, come now. Let's compare your empty portfolio to the great Chris Hitchens:

  1. God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything
  2. The Portable Atheist: Essential Readings for the Nonbeliever
  3. Does God Exist? (DVD)
  4. The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice

If you haven't written such "educational" and profane works, how can you compare your own worthless life to CH who thinks Isalm is bad? /sarc

;-)

40 posted on 04/11/2010 12:53:53 AM PDT by danieldu
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To: Persevero
Atheists can’t defeat Islam.

Not sure what to make of that, but the Chinese crushed the Uigher Muslims earlier last year.

41 posted on 04/11/2010 12:57:38 AM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: Steelfish

Malachi Martin on The New World Order Pt2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hb-ciFbdj4


42 posted on 04/11/2010 12:59:40 AM PDT by restornu ("A Free People will Not Survive Unless They Stay Strong")
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To: Steelfish

Nut case.


43 posted on 04/11/2010 1:00:18 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Steelfish

Q. Your book claims that subversive influences in the highest clerical positions of the Church are working to bring it into the new world order. What do you mean by new world order?

A. In its completely planned form, there will be a total globalization of money, and the flow of capital and capital goods will be managed from a single, centrally directed entity such as the Bank of International Settlements in Switzerland. Any nation that does not submit to the globalized system will perish.
In addition, there will be an expanded United Nations which will spread its new ethical structure, already championed by Mikhail Gorbachev and Maurice Strong. This will replace the Ten Commandments and become the basis of a new universal and godless religion.


44 posted on 04/11/2010 1:00:39 AM PDT by restornu ("A Free People will Not Survive Unless They Stay Strong")
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To: Steelfish

They believe there is no GOD. They despise anything and everything ABOUT God, and they love being in the lime light.

I can only imagine the looks on their faces when they show up at the Pearly Gates and are told they can’t go through.


45 posted on 04/11/2010 1:10:32 AM PDT by Just Lori (We're living in a nightmare.)
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To: nickcarraway

>>”Richard Dawson is just another fundamentalist religious fanatic.”

You forgot to add a </sarcasm> tag, so we would know you were not intending to make a statement of actual FACT.

OTOH, if you are actually serious, would you write out YOUR definition of “Fundamentalist?” If not, we must assume that you are using the word merely as a pejorative propaganda device.

DG


46 posted on 04/11/2010 1:16:13 AM PDT by DoorGunner ("Rom 11: until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 26 and so, all Israel will be saved")
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To: SatinDoll
But the Roman Catholic Church has sheltered the worst types of criminals - child molesters

Not that officials in the Church are blameless, but why are they taking most of the heat for this scandal. It is the justice system that is responsible for prosecuting and incarcerating these vermin. I could listed hundreds of cases where liberal prosecutors and liberal judges merely slap this scum on the wrist and put them back on the street. The Church can neither prosecute nor incarcerate offenders, but the same liberals who refuse to let the justice system work shift the blame to the church.

By the time these case ended up at the CDF, local authorities were aware of the circumstances.

Examples

May 2nd, 2008,

Prosecutors want the public to help find a fugitive child molester who was set free on bail after being convicted of sexually assaulting a 12-year-old girl on his softball team.

George Quevedo Quintana, 37, of Anaheim faces up to 10 years in prison after pleaded guilty to molesting the victim, who was on a team with the West Grove Girls Softball League in Garden Grove. The softball coach molested the girl during a day trip last September.

After being charged in the case, Quintana changed his plea on April 18 before Orange County Superior Court Roger Robbins, who decided to delay sentencing to May 19 and let the molester out on $100,000 bail until the hearing. Prosecutors unsuccessfully objected — saying Quintana should be sentenced immediately and put in jail

LOS ANGELES — August 17, 2007. Prosecutors on Tuesday dropped charges against a self-described pedophile who was arrested last week after he allegedly violated an order that prohibited him from being within 30 feet of children.

Prosecutors opted not to pursue charges against Jack McClellan after they determined the judge who issued the order failed to set a hearing to argue its merits and had not given the 45-year-old transient proper notice.

McClellan was released from jail Tuesday following a court hearing. A cell phone message left for him was not immediately returned.

47 posted on 04/11/2010 1:23:50 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: Steelfish; Impy
Interesting. Both die-hard atheist scentist Richard Dawkins and fundamentalist protestant creationists agree that they hate the Pope and believe the Catholic Church is a vile evil satanic cult run by pedophiles. Wow! I guess they have something in common after all. I haven't been this entertained since Pornographer Larry Flint and butch "all men are scum" feminazis united to defend their fellow liberal Democrat Bill Clinton.

It's kinda cute when anti-Catholic bigots on opposite ends of the spectrum find the same scapegoat to attack.

48 posted on 04/11/2010 1:24:27 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: nickcarraway
Richard Dawson is just another fundamentalist religious fanatic

I see what you mean:
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49 posted on 04/11/2010 1:26:23 AM PDT by mkjessup (0bama is doing to America what Roman Polanski did to his victim, but without lube.)
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To: big tent
Bless you my son, for thinking of me.
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50 posted on 04/11/2010 1:29:05 AM PDT by mkjessup (0bama is doing to America what Roman Polanski did to his victim, but without lube.)
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