I see what you mean:
Posted on 04/10/2010 11:49:41 PM PDT by Steelfish
April 11, 2010 Richard Dawkins: I Will Arrest Pope Benedict XVI Marc Horne
Atheist campaigner Richard Dawkins RICHARD DAWKINS, the atheist campaigner, is planning a legal ambush to have the Pope arrested during his state visit to Britain “for crimes against humanity”.
Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens, the atheist author, have asked human rights lawyers to produce a case for charging Pope Benedict XVI over his alleged cover-up of sexual abuse in the Catholic church.
The pair believe they can exploit the same legal principle used to arrest Augusto Pinochet, the late Chilean dictator, when he visited Britain in 1998.
The Pope was embroiled in new controversy this weekend over a letter he signed arguing that the “good of the universal church” should be considered against the defrocking of an American priest who committed sex offences against two boys. It was dated 1985, when he was in charge of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which deals with sex abuse cases.
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Not sure what to make of that, but the Chinese crushed the Uigher Muslims earlier last year.
Malachi Martin on The New World Order Pt2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hb-ciFbdj4
Nut case.
Q. Your book claims that subversive influences in the highest clerical positions of the Church are working to bring it into the new world order. What do you mean by new world order?
A. In its completely planned form, there will be a total globalization of money, and the flow of capital and capital goods will be managed from a single, centrally directed entity such as the Bank of International Settlements in Switzerland. Any nation that does not submit to the globalized system will perish.
In addition, there will be an expanded United Nations which will spread its new ethical structure, already championed by Mikhail Gorbachev and Maurice Strong. This will replace the Ten Commandments and become the basis of a new universal and godless religion.
They believe there is no GOD. They despise anything and everything ABOUT God, and they love being in the lime light.
I can only imagine the looks on their faces when they show up at the Pearly Gates and are told they can’t go through.
>>”Richard Dawson is just another fundamentalist religious fanatic.”
You forgot to add a </sarcasm> tag, so we would know you were not intending to make a statement of actual FACT.
OTOH, if you are actually serious, would you write out YOUR definition of “Fundamentalist?” If not, we must assume that you are using the word merely as a pejorative propaganda device.
DG
Not that officials in the Church are blameless, but why are they taking most of the heat for this scandal. It is the justice system that is responsible for prosecuting and incarcerating these vermin. I could listed hundreds of cases where liberal prosecutors and liberal judges merely slap this scum on the wrist and put them back on the street. The Church can neither prosecute nor incarcerate offenders, but the same liberals who refuse to let the justice system work shift the blame to the church.
By the time these case ended up at the CDF, local authorities were aware of the circumstances.
Examples
May 2nd, 2008,
Prosecutors want the public to help find a fugitive child molester who was set free on bail after being convicted of sexually assaulting a 12-year-old girl on his softball team.
George Quevedo Quintana, 37, of Anaheim faces up to 10 years in prison after pleaded guilty to molesting the victim, who was on a team with the West Grove Girls Softball League in Garden Grove. The softball coach molested the girl during a day trip last September.
After being charged in the case, Quintana changed his plea on April 18 before Orange County Superior Court Roger Robbins, who decided to delay sentencing to May 19 and let the molester out on $100,000 bail until the hearing. Prosecutors unsuccessfully objected — saying Quintana should be sentenced immediately and put in jail
LOS ANGELES — August 17, 2007. Prosecutors on Tuesday dropped charges against a self-described pedophile who was arrested last week after he allegedly violated an order that prohibited him from being within 30 feet of children.
Prosecutors opted not to pursue charges against Jack McClellan after they determined the judge who issued the order failed to set a hearing to argue its merits and had not given the 45-year-old transient proper notice.
McClellan was released from jail Tuesday following a court hearing. A cell phone message left for him was not immediately returned.
It's kinda cute when anti-Catholic bigots on opposite ends of the spectrum find the same scapegoat to attack.
yeah: except comparing Benedicts XVI's book "Introduction to Christianity" to Hitchen's "God is not Great" is like comparing Plato to Dr. Seuss.
Forgive me for questioning the point but the original statement was
Atheists can’t defeat Islam.
Your counter argument is that the Chinese crushed a minority population of Muslims over whom they already had power. Ergo... what? That Islam was defeated in this one event? That China will ultimately defeat Muslims worldwide? Or that some atheist nations will ultimately do the job? Is there an atheist manifesto of some sort that lays out the promise of doing this? Elements in both Judaism and Christianity do teach the ultimate defeat of all false systems of religion. How a single disconnected event answers the point, well, yeah, I don't know what to make of that.
Do you think you are going to get any kind of responsible treatment from a man who has been married three times?
Let me answer you with a question:
Do you see Islam taking over China?
The anti-Catholics on Freep will lead me to leave. You are acting just as badly as the atheist “Government is God” type.
My mother was Episcopalian. Our Associate Priest was known to be a pedophile and he was in charge of Sunday School. This was in 1960s San Francisco Bay Area. EVERYONE in the Parish knew it and was having sex with a couple of the boys. [Fortunately, not me]. Now, our Church was the only one?
The reality is that pedophilia exists in all religions, day care centers, our schools, etc. But why do only crucify Catholics for it?
Yes, pedophilia is horrific. But it occurs everywhere. Try traveling abroad where it is rampant and you find Americas going offshore to have sex with small boys. Where is the outrage about that?
I don’t care if you claim to be Catholic. Did you do anything about? Probably not. You are just another Catholic-hating bigot. You have plenty of company on Freep these days.
I know plenty of Catholic priests (I converted in college) and i have never known of a pedophile. So, circulate your stupid opinions.
You probably are one of the Romney haters too.
In Dawkins TED talk it was interesting that his real complaint against Christians — the one he really got animated about — was that Christians restrict or judge sexual behavior on certain standards which he wants nothing to do with. What his comments suggested to me was that it wasn’t so much how many times he might be married, but a desire to have the freedom to do what he wants without being judged by anyone. Dawkins, like his pal Hitchens, got all wee wee’d up about people not approving of his sexual conduct. Great minds think alike and these men obviously have had the same train of thought about this vital issue of freedom from the moral restraints concerning sexual conduct. Gee. I’d be lying to say I am surprised. Men wanting liberties! Straight or gay. Imagine that! Atheist men railing against those who would deny those “liberties”. Wow. Is it a new thing in the earth? /sarc
First, you didn't answer my question at all. You responded with a lame question that avoids having to answer my question or to respond to the points made.
Second, Islam's limited influence in China is not proportional to Islam's influence in many other countries so your example, as argued in my previous post, is irrelevant.
Third, your lack of answer is the kind of response I'd expect. Avoid the points raised.
Regardless of the /sarc tag, Christians are not preventing anyone from doing anything. No one is forced to be a Christian.
And even if a person is a Christian, Christians are told they are sinners. Christians are not kept from sinning by the Church because that is impossible. Christians are encourage to be mindful to avoid sinning but they are not kept from doing anything under the sun.
I didn’t recognise your question earlier. Perhaps you could be more specific.
That said, when you concede that ‘Islam’s influence is limited in China’, what are you implying? That Islam has other enemies besides Christianity?
I agree with everything you’ve said.
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