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You Have the Right to Remain Silent (LT Colonel Lakin Read His Rights)
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Posted on 04/13/2010 8:19:14 AM PDT by Man50D

Washington, D.C., April 13, 2010. Army doctor Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin yesterday met with his brigade commander, Col. Gordon R. Roberts, who proceeded to read LTC Lakin his Miranda rights, and who informed LTC Lakin he had the “right to remain silent” because LTC Lakin is about to be charged with serious crimes. Col. Roberts was at age 19 awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, the only recipient of the nation’s highest honor currently on active duty in the Army.

LTC Lakin had previously been ordered in writing to report yesterday to Ft. Campbell, KY and then on to deploy for his second tour of duty in Afghanistan. Lakin refused to obey these orders and instead came to work yesterday morning at the Pentagon. Late yesterday afternoon he was confronted by his brigade commander.

Before the meeting was over, LTC Lakin’s Pentagon Access Pass had been revoked, and his laptop computer was set to be confiscated.

The message to LTC Lakin is clear; through official channels, he was informed yesterday that he will shortly be court-martialled for crimes (specifically, missing movement and conduct unbecoming an officer) that for others has led to lengthy imprisonment at hard labor.

Lakin has announced in a YouTube video that has now been viewed more than 110,000 times that he considers it his duty to refuse to obey orders that would be illegal if President Obama is ineligible to hold office.

Meanwhile, cries mount for proof of that eligibility, but nothing has been forthcoming. The Obama campaign at one point released a copy of computer-generated abstract of information purportedly in Hawaii's records system, but the source of this information is unclear and need not have been a birth certificate issued contemporaneously and signed by the doctor who attended the birth. Even the document released was only a copy, and the version printed in the Los Angeles Times on June 16, 2008 is on a form only in use since late 2001. Even as it is, the document contains a warning that it is merely “prima facie”--threshold, rebuttable and thus inconclusive --evidence of birth, and the copy the Times printed mysteriously has the certificate number blacked out, thereby rendering the document unusable according to language on the bottom.

Given the seriousness of the offenses with which LTC Lakin is about to be charged, the American Patriot Foundation today renewed its plea for donations to its legal defense fund for LTC Lakin. Details are available at APF's website, www.safeguardourconstitution.com


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: army; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; lakin; military; naturalborncitizen; obama; terrencelakin
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To: curiosity

Since you are not open to what these lawyers are filing, or even the possibility that they may be correct, it is now evident to me that nothing much will be accepted by you.
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I am open to anything for which they have evidence. Unfortuantely, as far as I can tell, they have none. But if you can point to some real evidence, then I’ll take a look at it.


Hence the rub. Nothing has been heard on its merits yet in open court. I emphasize, the merits of each case, has NOT been heard in open court. Hence the evidence you require has been hidden because of Obama’s Legal tactics. Which begs the question “ Why won’t he simply release the information required to end this, once and for all?”

You cannot prove that he has a US Passport, or ever had a US passport,
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Of course I can’t. I can’t prove anyone, except members of my immediate family, has a passport because passport application files are protected by privacy laws.

Thank you.

but two people were fired and one was shot execution style for, it appears, trying to find out.
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???

No comment on the people arrested and one shot Execution style?

Passport information is available thru FOIA by attorneys,
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No it is not. An attorney could ask a judge to subpoena it, but such a motion would only be granted if the said attorney had some evidence that said information is relevant to a legitimate case. Unfortunately birthers, their attorneys have failed to do this.
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E: law enforcement, and the secret service all the time.
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Only if they can show probable cause.

I let you go on a bit, because you said it was not true, then provided the means that they get access.
Probable Cause is a method to get this information when presented to a judge, that is called “Discovery”
In Obama’s case, Discovery has not been given by a judge at this point.

I hold you to the same standard you hold me to. Prove it,
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The burden of proof is on you, not me, since it is you who are accusing Obama of an expatriating act.

My point, is that we are all going on what information we can formulate. You spend all your time, literally, dissing anyone trying to find out, discuss, disseminate, et al. Learn about what people know, what people are doing, what litigation is in progress, and how it is handled, and outcomes. You are...a character assassin...in my book. One is left to see what your motive is, and the only one I can come up with, is that you pound on people until they stop, or go away, which I think is your whole point.
Well, it won’t work with me. Your an insignifican flea, I learn more from you than you ever can quash from me. I never believed that people are paid to do what you do, but really, I see no curiousity in what you do. Its quite psychological, quite predictable, and eventually, people go away (which I think is your intent), or they ignore you. Your validity is at question, you remind me of a nagging broodhen who is not interested in the safety of her chicks, rather their dominance. Your boring and tiring, and lacking is anything positive IMO.

or say its your opinion, or its outstanding litigation. But then, litigation means nothing unless its heard by the courts and decided on.
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The courts have already decided on 40+ of these cases, and in ever instance, it was dismissed. What makes you think that any of the cases are going to have better luck in the future.

All that they have decided to do, is NOT hear the merits of the cases. The substance of these cases, has not been heard of judged. The merits have not been explored or discovery granted.
Each of the lawyers are working within the system to find the right way to present the cases, which will meet the requirements of the courts. This is unexplored territory, and slowly these legal minds are exploring different avenues. I feel that they will one day succeed, and when they do, it will be a waterfall effect of evidence, and discovery, which will, for the American People, and the American way of life, create precident, and remove a person not qualified under the constitution.
It will have many benefits. We will demand vetting for all canditates. We will now know that same-o same-o cannot be allowed in Congress, and possible senators and congressmen will be asked hard questions and be held accountable at the ballot box. We will have a more informed citizenry that will not depend that things are done correctly. IMO this will be a major paradigm shift on US government and accountability. The unintended consequences of what Obama is doing, is that it is waking a slumbering constituency, lolled into slumber thinking they could do nothing. People are rediscovering that they can make a difference. They are holding MSM and Newspapers accountable, and many are failing as a result. Once powerful pundits who banked on that slumber, are now seeing that they are ineffectual in the land of public opinion. Those who held power in high offices across the land are finding that they are being scrutinize like never in their careers, and many have decided not to run for re-election, or are running scared, and for good reason. In my town, those running for local elections are being asked where they stand, hard questions. Many of the incumbents are not even trying to continue after a few town hall meetings. The good ole boy network, is being torn apart from the grassroots. Little by little American is distroying the underpinnings that support the bloated heiarchy that has existed and fed off the populace. Litigation is being presented at the grass roots level to remove people who do not do their jobs. All of the sudden mid term re-elections are a real possibilities, and appointments are being given a jaundiced eye. America is waking up. Those in my area that proudly supported Obama, are realizing that they were lied to, cheated on, and are being treated like dirt, ignored, and taken advantage of. When we start paying for Health Care we don’t agree with, with money we don’t have, for coverage that is worse that what most have, and won’t be able to keep, for 4 years ahead of the time they can not even use it. Then be hounded by the IRS if they don’t pay it. They will rebel. I hope it does not get to that point, but it well may. Lets not forget that the Bush Tax Cuts, are set to expire. As I live with a Tax Accountant, I hear what is coming, and how the public does not have a clue. The Bush tax cuts were supposed to become permanent. They are due to expire, and when they do, you are penalized for being married. Its a long list, and its real. Here is a link:
http://www.thecomingdepression.net/main-street/forgotten-bush-tax-cuts-expire-in-2010-economy-to-sink-further-into-depression/
Obama stated that the lower and middle income tax brackets will not see NEW taxes,but, he never said that old ones would not come back. The tax returns of 2010 will be a wake up call for those who voted for Obama, and a devastating burden to all. But hey, the Author of the Most TRANSPARENT administration in history, never said that you did not have to be aware, you have to listen, and learn, because you can count on the fact, that he and the MSM will print, in small letters on page 22 of the newspaper, that they are doing it. They will tout it on the political channels at 2am in your time zone. You will be suckered. He will do it with conviction that the information is there if you look for it.
Those who can use the internet effectively, will be informed, and will pass it along. They will battle people like you who dilute the message by demanding our time to produce links, justify websites, and defend authors, not for the content of their work, or the facts that surround it, but because of the website, or an article they wrote in the past that branded them in your eyes and someone of disrepute. You will attack the author, and attempt to distroy the message. Sadly, it will work for all but the most determined. Eventually, you, and those like you, will fail. You will fail because what we have to lose, is more important than what you seek to gain. I would ask you to be part of the solution, rather than part of the problem. We are on a path of discovery of our own, that is being hindered by our protagonist. We are seeking ways around a head on assault of our Constitution. Never in our history, have we had access, worldwide, to the information available on the Internet, and we are using it. Many are making attacks to stop this flow of information, they are the ones who want to stifle knowledge, hide information, and keep the populace blind to all but what they choose for us to hear. It won’t work, if this goes, something else will take its place. You will lose. America will win. We will learn from and improve our methods for the betterment of all. Sadley you, and those like you will probably never be held accountable for your damage IMO, becuse the very constitution that protects us, protects you too. But, Karma is a B!tch, and nobody escapes the consequences of their behaviour. Not a threat, just a known fact.


1,241 posted on 04/21/2010 12:36:54 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: etraveler13

Here is what you will lose (from the Cato Institute):


2001
•A reduction of individual income tax rates from 15, 28, 31, 36, and 39.6 percent to 10, 15, 25, 28, 33, and 35 percent;
•An increase in the child tax credit from $500 to $1,000;
•A phased-in reduction in estate taxes, and a one-year repeal in 2010;
•A big expansion of tax-favored retirement savings plans.

2002
Congress enacted a “stimulus” tax cut bill in 2002. The main provision allowed businesses to “expense,” or immediately write-off, 30 percent of the cost of equipment purchases (later increased to 50 percent). Expensing is an important step toward converting the income tax to a consumption-based tax. It simplifies the tax code and spurs growth by removing taxes on the normal return to investment. Unfortunately, the partial expensing was only implemented temporarily and it has now expired.

2003
Under President Bush’s leadership, Congress passed a further package of pro-growth tax cuts in 2003. The centerpiece of the law was a cut in the top capital gains rate from 20 to 15 percent and a cut in the top individual rate on dividends from 35 to 15 percent. Tax experts had long discussed the distortionary effects of the excessive taxation of corporate equity in the U.S. tax code. Under the 2003 law, the capital gains and dividend cuts were set to expire after 2008.

2004
There have been increasing concerns about the uncompetitiveness of the complex and high-rate U.S. corporate income tax. The U.S. corporate tax rate is one of the highest in the world, and it has remained unchanged while other nations have made dramatic cuts. The chairman of the House tax committee, Bill Thomas, was determined to deal with the problem and he pushed for major corporate tax reforms. However, what ended up being signed into law in 2004 was a mixed bag. Some important simplifications in the treatment of foreign income by multinationals were included, but the federal corporate rate was not cut except for certain favored industries.

2005
The main tax event of 2005 was the appointment by President Bush of a commission to look into major tax reforms. The commission produced a very good report that described two detailed and workable reform plans for the income tax (see www.taxreformpanel.gov). Unfortunately, the plans were not as far-reaching as a flat tax, but they did include rate cuts, simplifications, and pro-savings provisions. Sadly, the White House has dropped plans for major tax reform for now, but reform may come back on the agenda in 2007.

2006
This year, Republicans have tried to tie up loose ends from prior tax legislation. They voted to extend the capital gains and dividend tax cuts for two further years (until 2010). But they were less successful in their effort to make estate tax repeal permanent, as repeal narrowly failed in a June Senate vote. A compromise bill with a cut to the estate tax rate might be passed later in the year.

The Years Ahead
While President Bush has been a supporter of pro-growth tax reforms, there are shortcomings in recent tax policies. For one thing, the tax code continues to get more complicated by leaps and bounds. Also, policymakers have not repealed the alternative minimum tax, a parallel income tax system that threatens to hit 30 million households by the end of the decade.

Another shortcoming has been the failure to make tax cuts permanent.
Nearly all of the Bush cuts—
individual rates
capital gains
dividends
estate tax
are set to expire after 2010.


Sixty votes are needed in the 100-member Senate to pass permanent tax cuts. There are just 55 GOP senators, and they have faced a politically far-left Democratic opposition.

There are only about 50 serious budget reformers in the 435-member House. For the rest, it’s been a pork-barrel pigout in recent years.

The future of the Bush tax cuts depends to a large extent on the next president, who will enter office in 2009. Whether the United States moves toward major tax reform, such as a low-rate flat tax, will also substantially depend on the next resident of the White House.

And now, we see what is happening. No new taxes on lower income people IMO was a deception on Obamas Part, he did not lie, but he did not explain the the American people in his Transparent Role in Office the consequences of his inaction and that of his Administration.


1,242 posted on 04/21/2010 1:03:14 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: etraveler13
And I refuse to hold your hand thru something I clearly read.

So you can't cite the specific provision under the 1952 act under which he would have been expatriated. Thought so.

1,243 posted on 04/21/2010 1:11:28 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: etraveler13
I realize that Obama is a sleezy politician who is doing great harm to the country. No one would love to see him driven from office more than me.

Unfortunately, I'm also a realist and realize that there's no merit to any of the birther claims. It's all massive waste of time and effort that would be better spent by trying to beat him at the ballot box in 2012.

That is why I spend time trying to debunk birther myths. I see birtherism as a massive distraction to conservatives, and therefore something that hurts our movement.

1,244 posted on 04/21/2010 1:14:37 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

No, I simply won’t.


1,245 posted on 04/21/2010 1:36:57 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: curiosity

I hear an respect your opinion, but I don’t agree with it.
If you find it a great distraction, why not walk away?
Your efforts for the most part, are not appreciated evidently. What you post, is venom, and not appreciated by most of what I read. You inhibit the free flow of ideas, and prevent people from joining in and maybe, just maybe learning something.
Is that your intent? Or has all of this gotten away from you.
I see you as part of the problem, not part of the solution.


1,246 posted on 04/21/2010 1:40:02 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: etraveler13
No, I simply won’t.

Sure thing, Sparky.

1,247 posted on 04/21/2010 1:57:57 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

see, we can agree on some things...


1,248 posted on 04/21/2010 7:51:52 PM PDT by etraveler13
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