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IRS May Withhold Tax Refunds To Enforce Health Insurance Mandate
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Posted on 04/15/2010 11:14:32 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

IRS May Withhold Tax Refunds To Enforce Health Insurance Mandate

By Martin Vaughan Dow Jones Newswires

WASHINGTON -(Dow Jones)- The Internal Revenue Service won't audit you to make sure you have purchased health insurance under provisions of the new health-care law--but it may withhold your tax refund if you can't demonstrate that you are insured, an IRS official said Thursday.

Steven T. Miller, IRS Deputy Commissioner for Services and Enforcement, made the comments during a hearing of the Senate Finance Committee. He echoed earlier comments by IRS Commissioner Doug Shulman that questions about health coverage won't in and of themselves lead to an IRS audit.

"There are tools we can use. We obviously will be notifying folks [for whom there is no record of health insurance] that we have these questions," said Miller. "We have a refund offset mechanism in order to enforce that provision."

Republicans on the Finance Committee including Sens. Charles Grassley of Iowa and Pat Roberts of Kansas, questioned whether the IRS will even have the ability to make sure the insurance mandate is enforced.

Under the new law, penalties for failure to purchase health insurance apply starting in 2014. By 2016, the penalty for lacking qualifying insurance is the greater of $695 per year, or 2.5% of household income up to $2,085.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxbusiness.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Iowa; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: healthcare; individualmandate; iowa; irs; kansas; obamacare; tax; taxes
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To: Sub-Driver
“The law doesn't authorize the IRS to impose liens or levies to collect the penalties. But it doesn't prevent the IRS from reducing a tax refund to collect the penalty, Miller said.”

Dumb statement! To withhold ones amount of tax refund is a a levy to collect the penalties.

51 posted on 04/15/2010 1:27:25 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Ha! Ha!...F’ em....I owed!

Same here!

52 posted on 04/15/2010 1:28:16 PM PDT by ScottinVA (RIP to the country I love...)
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To: Sub-Driver

By 2016, the IRS will be witholding 80% of your income anyway, and all refunds will be confiscated to pay the deficit.


53 posted on 04/15/2010 1:28:49 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government -- Thomas Payne)
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To: Sub-Driver

What refund?


54 posted on 04/15/2010 1:33:54 PM PDT by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured. Muslims are specifically granted an exemption.

Non-muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize muslims.

This is Dhimmitude.

Dhimmitude is the muslim system of controlling non-muslim populations conquered through jihad. Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to islam.


55 posted on 04/15/2010 1:58:29 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: mojitojoe

Interest? what’s that?


56 posted on 04/15/2010 2:04:54 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Sub-Driver
No taxes will be paid, No witholding or minimal. This will be a disaster. These idiots think they can bully folks around? NOT GOOD.

Effing Fascists!

57 posted on 04/15/2010 2:30:35 PM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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To: ilovesarah2012

I always owe anyway. lol.


58 posted on 04/15/2010 2:32:35 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Sub-Driver

Wow. Just wow. Even with Bobocare “credits”, da po’ people gonna see a big takeway in their EITC along with every other giveaway all the way down the ladder.


59 posted on 04/15/2010 2:45:49 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (/)
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To: Paperdoll

“Who shall guard the guards?”


60 posted on 04/15/2010 3:07:26 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Lurking in Kansas

Most are so clueless.


61 posted on 04/15/2010 3:15:21 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (i)
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To: george76; Sub-Driver
Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured. Muslims are specifically granted an exemption.

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This is Dhimmitude.

Relax, I don't think that this will turn out so badly. Unintended consequences and all that.

For example, I wonder how it is, EXACTLY, that they are going to enforce this provision?

First off, I believe it to be unconstitutional. But let's say that it is, just for the fun of it. The next problem is: Who is a Moslem? Who defines the term? How can they say, "No, you're not" - i.e. what does a Moslem person have to do to prove that he/she is eligible? It can't be whether you belong to a mosque or not - many people don't attend church or synogogue, but they are still Christians and Jews.

How are they going to stop people from calling themselves a new branch of Islam? I can see people starting up a new branch of Islam (in addition to Sunni & Shiite) - perhaps it can be called "Screwbamaism" or "The House of the Unholy Kenyan" and its major tenants will be mentioning the name of Mohammed, followed by protracted cursing and/or spitting, followed by a service that very, very closely resembles either some form of Christianity or some form of Judaism. It would certainly be a very unique and distinct form of Islam. :>)

From both the legal and political points of view, it is going to be very entertaining to see how this all plays out.

62 posted on 04/15/2010 3:24:00 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (Tyrant: "Spartans, lay down your weapons." Free man: "Persian, come and get them!")
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To: Sub-Driver
IRS May Withhold Tax Refunds To Enforce Health Insurance Mandate

So the only ones to be effected will be those who think loaning the goobermint their money for a year for FREE is a good financial plan.

63 posted on 04/15/2010 3:37:28 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: screaminsunshine
Just claim 15 exempts on your W-4.:

Actually you want to claim fewer exemptions and owe money to them at the end of the year. That way they won't be able to keep your refund, since yo won't have one! The more exemptions the more money they can keep.

64 posted on 04/15/2010 3:37:52 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

No you got it backwards. Been doing it 30 years.


65 posted on 04/15/2010 3:39:30 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (i)
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To: Sub-Driver

Two can play this game if states seize federal receipts.


66 posted on 04/15/2010 4:00:55 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

“Two can play this game if states seize federal receipts.”

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Game On when/if that happens.

And all talk and lawsuits aside, that will be the only way the states will be able to resist this historically unprecedented federal onslaught.

Money is where the rubber meets the road.


67 posted on 04/15/2010 4:04:21 PM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: screaminsunshine

Yes, you are correct, I don’t know what I was thinking of. The more dependents, the less with holding. I have paid taxes for a few years myself, the first year was 1956, when I was 14 years old and worked all summer for a contractor. Didn’t actually have to pay anything but was I mad at what they took out of my check!


68 posted on 04/15/2010 4:06:07 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Me either. All day I kept seeing that picture in my mind and it creeped me out. There is something thoroughly bizarre about the Zero's smirky countenance in that pic. It's like he just ordered a hit on someone. Then I realized he did, but it wasn't ‘someone’ it was all of America.
69 posted on 04/15/2010 4:08:04 PM PDT by 444Flyer (PharaOh, PharaOh...let my people go!)
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To: calex59

My worst fear is to die without owing the ORS as much as possible.


70 posted on 04/15/2010 4:17:12 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (i)
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To: screaminsunshine

Yeah, me too(snicker). If I never pay the frickin’ government another dime it will be too damn soon.


71 posted on 04/15/2010 4:20:08 PM PDT by calex59
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To: ltc8k6

Hahaha! Not everybody has a “paycheck” FRiend:

Underground cash economy thrives in Sacramento
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2491188/posts


72 posted on 04/15/2010 4:39:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2312894/posts?page=242)
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To: Sub-Driver

The guy who crashed his plane into an IRS office should be a national hero!


73 posted on 04/15/2010 4:54:30 PM PDT by reg45
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To: ilovesarah2012

Simple solution. Make sure that your employer withholds as little as possible and then pay only what you owe.


74 posted on 04/15/2010 5:07:11 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Same here. I just mailed these a-holes a check. My homo tax attorney who kept on harping about Obama’s $400 earned income credit forgot to tell me about the health insurance shakedown.


75 posted on 04/15/2010 5:17:43 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Sub-Driver

There goes the Leftist argument that they are not requiring people to purchase something in order to be legal.

The refund belongs to the taxpayer who overpaid. It does not belong to the IRS or the government.

If the IRS or government wants that money, they must take the taxpayer to court.

IF THEY DO NOT AND THEY SIMPLY KEEP THE TAXPAYER’S REFUND, IT IS A VIOLATION OF DUE PROCESS.


76 posted on 04/15/2010 6:41:05 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Isn’t this the kind of thing that led to the original tea party in Boston in 1773?


77 posted on 04/15/2010 8:14:33 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Thanks Sub-Driver.


78 posted on 04/16/2010 6:34:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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