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Israel warns Syria over Hezbollah attacks
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article7101106.ece ^

Posted on 04/17/2010 8:42:01 PM PDT by jhpigott

Israel has delivered a secret warning to Syrian President Bashar Assad that it will respond to missile attacks from Hezbollah, the militant Lebanese-based Islamist group, by launching immediate retaliation against Syria itself.

In a message, sent earlier this month, Israel made it clear that it now regards Hezbollah as a division of the Syrian army and that reprisals against Syria will be fast and devastating.

It follows the discovery by Israeli intelligence that Syria has recently supplied long-range ballistic missiles and advanced anti-aircraft systems to Hezbollah.

“We’ll return Syria to the Stone Age by crippling its power stations, ports, fuel storage and every bit of strategic infrastructure if Hezbollah dare to launch ballistic missiles against us,” said an Israeli minister, who who was speaking off-the-record, last week.

The warning, which was conveyed to Damascus by a third party, was sent to reinforce an earlier signal by Avigdor Lieberman, the Israeli foreign minister. “If a war breaks out the Assad dynasty will lose its power and will cease to reign in Syria,” he said earlier this year.

The Israeli decision to hold Syria directly responsible for Hezbollah’s actions is believed to be the result of intelligence assessments that Beirut has lost control of the Shi’ite organisation, which has become an increasingly powerful force in Lebanon.

Reports that Syria has supplied Hezbollah with Russian-made Scud ballistic missiles have alarmed Israeli ministers. The missiles have the potential to reach the entire country and could carry chemical warheads. New gas masks are being supplied to Israel’s entire population, with an intensive television advertising campaign underway to stress their importance.

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To: ChrisInAR

This is why they won’t let me be president, cuz someone attacks our country, I’m turning theirs into a glass parking lot.


51 posted on 04/17/2010 11:35:04 PM PDT by IamCenny
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To: Raymann

I would think a war that involved Israel, Hezbollah, Syria and Lebanon would qualify as a “regional war”.

2 other potential combatants are Iran and Hamas. A few of Iran’s military options include 1) attempt to close the Strait of Hormuz 2) fire ballastic missiles at it’s Gulf neighbors either of which could pull in further combatants . . . the risk of a regional war is real IMO


52 posted on 04/17/2010 11:57:07 PM PDT by jhpigott
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To: jhpigott

Nuke Damascus and at least 30 other major Islamic cities. You’d be doing the world a big favor!


53 posted on 04/18/2010 12:33:31 AM PDT by GeronL (Entitlement Zombies will become real zombies when the money runs out)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters
Ping!

“We’ll return Syria to the Stone Age by crippling its power stations, ports, fuel storage and every bit of strategic infrastructure if Hezbollah dare to launch ballistic missiles against us,” said an Israeli minister, who who was speaking off-the-record, last week.

54 posted on 04/18/2010 12:49:52 AM PDT by lonevoice (If Fox News is the only outlet reporting it, did it really happen?)
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To: jhpigott
Times Online
55 posted on 04/18/2010 3:00:59 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: section9

errr.... um...


56 posted on 04/18/2010 4:18:46 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: jhpigott

This move by Syria is actually a flanking maneuver by Iran.

Both Hezbollah and Syria are acting as first line Iranian surrogates in the coming war with Iran.

It is admission by Iran that they don’t have the absolute error less ability to counter directly an Israeli attack.


57 posted on 04/18/2010 4:23:46 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ostracize Democrats. There can be no Democrat friends.)
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To: jhpigott

Having been through the bekaa valley during early stages of the 2006 war, then 10 days in Beirut during the conflict and after that driving from the Syrian coast to Damascus and then south to Jordan; It is quite apparent that Israel could announce the date and time of an air strike and likely complete it with impunity...even today.

Syria may have some more modern military technology, however what I saw was mostly 1960s and early 70’s worn out junk. A friend of mine is a retired “christian” General in an Arab country. He asserts it is “impossible” to have a effective military when the religion of Islam interferes with training and operations, as in required prayer 5 times a day. I am not being critical of the religion here, just the conflict of interest between soldiering and the particular religion.


58 posted on 04/18/2010 4:30:51 AM PDT by Trapper6012
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To: CyberAnt

Or an earthquake.


59 posted on 04/18/2010 4:31:52 AM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: eekitsagreek

......I wonder whose side Obama is on...?.....

He is on the side of left wing pussy pacifists.....no war. War is obsolete.


60 posted on 04/18/2010 4:33:35 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ostracize Democrats. There can be no Democrat friends.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I think the warning is for real. Israel would much prefer to see the missiles withdrawn than to have to fight a regional war with only token support from the U.S. They also want third-party pressure against Syria to back off.


61 posted on 04/18/2010 4:46:44 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: Genoa

diego garcia


62 posted on 04/18/2010 5:06:52 AM PDT by lancium
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To: jhpigott

What I like about the Israelis is that if they see a connection, they identify it aloud and then act on it. That’s sanity in action.

Over here, we bury our collective heads in the sand and recite platitudes. Something we learned from the Canadian authorities, maybe.


63 posted on 04/18/2010 5:42:09 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: jhpigott
"We’ll return Syria to the Stone Age by crippling its power stations, ports, fuel storage and every bit of strategic infrastructure if Hezbollah dare to launch ballistic missiles against us,” said an Israeli minister, who who was speaking off-the-record, last week.

Don't forget to also destroy bridges, electric distribution, communications, television, highways, roads, airports, air fields, banks, railroads, and of course dams.

64 posted on 04/18/2010 6:10:41 AM PDT by Rapscallion (I have a dog in this fight. You may not know it, but you do too.)
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To: Genoa

A wonderful book to read is “AS AMERICA HAS DONE TO ISRAEL, BY John P McTernan”

After reading this book, I no longer fear what will happen to Israel, it is too bad that America is not standing with Israel, especially with the curreent President we have, appaently he has not read the Holy Bible, so he would prefer to stand with Muslim terrorist than stand with Israel


65 posted on 04/18/2010 6:51:48 AM PDT by darylmh (new workers, new prisons)
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To: Trapper6012

That must have been fascinating and harrowing at the same time. Were you traveling in the area and just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.


66 posted on 04/18/2010 6:59:19 AM PDT by jhpigott
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To: jhpigott

Oh! OK. I agree that there will be more fighting and that Hezzbollah and the Syrians are going join each other against Israel.

I am disgusted when I hear about the never ending efforts to destroy Israel by Syria, Iran and other Muslim states in the middle-east.Israel has never known a moment of peace. Their situation has always been complicated because of the silliness of American administrations that have attempted to bring about a two-state peace agreement between Israel and the Muslims who are determined to destroy it.


67 posted on 04/18/2010 7:12:01 AM PDT by SkipW
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To: jhpigott

I wish we had a leader who stood up to terrorist states like that.


68 posted on 04/18/2010 7:20:57 AM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
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To: SJackson

Ping.


69 posted on 04/18/2010 7:21:12 AM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
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To: az_gila
TRUE


70 posted on 04/18/2010 7:27:52 AM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: ChrisInAR

I doubt Syria’s preparations will be sufficient to deter the Israelis from their objectives. The IDF is one of, if not THE best, trained militaries in the world. Also the Israelis are fighting for survival which gives them even more of an edge.


71 posted on 04/18/2010 7:29:32 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Should I fly my flag at half staff now?)
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To: SkipW

Here is another great example of America “complicating” the issues in that part of the world. Washington/Obama would rather bury their head in the sand than deal with the realities on the ground. What is Odumdum looking for, a photograph of camoflauge clad Hezbollah operatives fueling a SCUD in launch position on a TEL next to a street sign that reads “Bekka Valley”.

Gates is right when he says Obama doesn’t have a plan for dealing with Iran’s nuke problem, but he may have well have said Obama doesn’t have a plan for dealing with any foreign policy crisis. This man has a dangerous domestic policy and NO foriegn policy.

U.S. Officials: It is Unclear if Syria Transferred Scuds to Hizbullah but ‘Intent is There’

April 18, 2010

Washington believes there is a Syrian “intent” to transfer Scud missiles to Hizbullah but there are doubts about whether the Scuds were delivered to the Shiite group, U.S. officials have said.
“We think the intent is there,” a senior U.S. official said.

But the official and two others briefed on the case said it was unclear whether the missiles were actually handed over in full to the Lebanese party.

“We believe a transfer of some kind occurred but it is unclear if the rockets themselves have changed hands,” the senior official said.
Another U.S. official said doubts were growing that Damascus had delivered the Scuds in full: “We don’t believe it happened.”
A third U.S. official also said it was “unclear … that a transfer has occurred ... and the United States has no indications that the rockets have moved across the border.”

Israeli President Shimon Peres has accused Damascus of providing Hizbullah with the missiles, prompting Washington to officially warn that the transfer “potentially puts Lebanon at significant risk.”

Syria also warned that Israel was paving the way for new military action through its allegations.
The allegation comes at a sensitive time in U.S.-Syrian relations. Washington has reached out to Syria in recent months by nominating the first U.S. ambassador to Damascus since 2005 and sending top diplomats to meet with President Bashar Assad.

http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/NewsDesk.nsf/getstory?openform&D6E6A7B415CD796DC22577090019BA0B


72 posted on 04/18/2010 7:37:51 AM PDT by jhpigott
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To: jhpigott
Not to worry, Zer0 will go over there, bow to them, and have a little beer summitt to work it all out.
73 posted on 04/18/2010 8:02:53 AM PDT by unixfox
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To: jhpigott

Well, Damascus, is mentioned in Scripture for a reason. The Syrians do not know who they are messing with. Israel is not alone, although the world believes it is. Something the US Administration better wake up to.

<< Isaiah 17 >>
King James Bible
1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.

2 The cities of Aroer are forsaken: they shall be for flocks, which shall lie down, and none shall make them afraid.

3 The fortress also shall cease from Ephraim, and the kingdom from Damascus, and the remnant of Syria: they shall be as the glory of the children of Israel, saith the LORD of hosts.


74 posted on 04/18/2010 8:03:43 AM PDT by WNC mountainboy (Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep.)
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To: jhpigott
“We’ll return Syria to the Stone Age by crippling its power stations, ports, fuel storage and every bit of strategic infrastructure if Hezbollah dare to launch ballistic missiles against us,” said an Israeli minister, who who was speaking off-the-record, last week.
Sorry to sound a bit on the cynical side, but judging from the present state of countries controlled by the you-know-whos, "returning them to the stone age" shouldn't be TOO difficult!
75 posted on 04/18/2010 8:06:46 AM PDT by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: jhpigott

And don’t forget there is a Mighty Archangel by the name of Michael over there. The world has forgotten so much. If they ever knew anything of the LORD to start with.

<< Daniel 12 >>
King James Bible
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. 3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever. 4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.


76 posted on 04/18/2010 8:33:18 AM PDT by WNC mountainboy (Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep.)
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To: jhpigott

What will we do if Obama declares war on Isreal? Even the Bush administration demanded that Israel stand down in the war against Hezbollah.


77 posted on 04/18/2010 8:51:37 AM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: jhpigott
Israel has delivered a secret warning to Syrian President Bashar Assad

Well, I guess not. Doesn't seem to be so secret, now does it?

78 posted on 04/18/2010 9:38:35 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: jhpigott

Confirmed ...

Intel report: Hezbollah ready for new war
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=141681
MI6 worries situation now tailor-made for strike on Israel

‘Wow’, amazing what 0-bama Dip-lunacy is achieving. I’m so ‘impressed’ by Hellery’s finesse, Biden’s genius, and Zero’s peacemaking skills. /s


79 posted on 04/18/2010 9:46:37 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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Filing this in ...
Obama’s Outstanding Record of Dip-lunacy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2470815/posts


80 posted on 04/18/2010 9:47:23 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: jhpigott

consider who is at the head of each country in the midst of potential chaos.

Assad, if I’m not mistaken, a dentist by trade.
Netanyahu, a multi-war veteran and patriot.
Hariri II, a mixed blessing for now.
Nasrallah, a thug in a mullah outfit.

The Hamas and Hezbollah orgs. need to be wiped out. They are nothing more than lackeys for Iran and some in Saudi Arabia and wannabe jihadists globally.

Not sure how big a ‘spark’ it will take.. but Scuds being added to the scene doesn’t help move folks any closer to the negotiating table. Syria is flirting with fire and Lebanon will be the one to pay for it.. agian.


81 posted on 04/18/2010 10:01:32 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Chuck DeVore - CA Senator. Believe.)
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To: Shaun_MD

Except us...


82 posted on 04/18/2010 11:12:39 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Be still & kneel before the know-nothing Omnipotent One, Il Douche' Jr., may fleas be upon him.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I never thought I’d live to see such a betrayal! Makes my blood boil.


83 posted on 04/18/2010 11:29:38 AM PDT by pgkdan (I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: section9
The Syrians are clever, but too clever by half sometimes. It will be one of the great mysteries of modern Arab history how an Alawite family got their nation transformed into a client of a Persian Empire on the other side of the Arab world, one that just happened to have an American army in between it and its patron.

The Alewite version of Islam has some things in common with Persian Shiism. A few years back some major Iranian religious authorities patched things up with the Alewites and said they were not apostates. Alewites have a thing for Mary (mother of Jesus) as well as Muhammad

Anyone who wants to discuss Syria, or thinks he has a right to make policies dealing with Syria, must find out about, must hold in the forefront of his brain, the history and role of the Alawites, their strengths (including their self-interested protection of Christians) and also their great vulnerabilities (including the fact that their syncretistic worship of Mary means that Sunni Arabs do not regard them as real Muslims, and that is the touchiest of subjects, the one that had the Alawites desperate for an Iranian fatwa a few years ago that appeared to give them full-fledged Muslim status, and helps explain the eagerness of the Alawite regime to curry favor with Muslims by 1) allowing Sunni Arabs to go off to Iraq to fight the Infidels 2) allowing Iran to trans-ship through Syria aid to Hezbollah 3) maintaining an unyielding stance toward Israel, which allows the Alawites to use their supposed "Arab" ethnic identity (decades ago more people in the country identified themselves "Syrians" just as in Egypt, 40-50-60 years ago, "Egyptian" rather than "Arab" was the favored identity -- those days can be made to come again) to make up for their unorthodox, not-quite-sufficient brand of Islam, or near-Islam, or quasi-Islam. This weakness can be ruthlessly exploited by the West -- not least by making the theme of the Alawites "non-Islamic" nature a constant source of discussion, thereby bringing the topic embarrassingly up. We have the power to make it hot for them, and if the Sunni Arabs ever come to power, they will, as Armenian friends of mine from Haleb have noted, promptly attack the Alawite villages, and those Alawite military officers will be helpless to protect their own famlilies.

Every Alawite house has a picture of Mary.

link


84 posted on 04/18/2010 11:40:37 AM PDT by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: 50cal Smokepole

just what I was thinking...


85 posted on 04/18/2010 11:49:11 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: jhpigott; All

How’s that talking with thugs working out for ya, Barry? Appoint an ambasador to Syria and Assad turns Scuds over the Hezbollah.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2493148/posts


86 posted on 04/18/2010 12:06:52 PM PDT by raptor22 (The truth will set us free)
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To: 50cal Smokepole

Mekhtoub!(It is written!”)


87 posted on 04/18/2010 12:30:11 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: darylmh

Our Usurper in Chief is steeped in the Quran..


88 posted on 04/18/2010 12:32:31 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: IamCenny
This is why they won’t let me be president, cuz someone attacks our country, I’m turning theirs into a glass parking lot.

Methinks you & Bibi Netanyahu need to have a heart-to-heart. Please remind him that the very survival of this people & his nation are @ stake, & that time is running out pn him. He needs to follow YOUR lead & do exactly the same thing to Iran & Syria...& do it NOW!

89 posted on 04/18/2010 2:08:27 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (Alright, tighten your shorts, Pilgrim, & sing like the Duke!)
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To: MississippiMan

Doesn’t take a lot of reading between the lines to figure out what was meant here. And I think it can be applied to both the Iranian nuke issue as well as the Hezbollah/Syria issue . . .

PM quotes Herzl: Don’t rely on help of foreigners

Published: 04.18.10, 11:11 / Israel News

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said during the weekly cabinet meeting, “State visionary, Benjamin Ze’ev Herzl, said something that has captured me, ‘Do not rely on the help of foreigners, nor on benefactors. And do not expect stones to become soft because benefactors give humiliating donations.’”

Netanyahu noted that he was not familiar with this quotation, and concluded it: “A nation who wants to stand upright must rely on itself alone.” The cabinet marked 150 years since the birth of Zionist visionary, Theodor Herzl. (Roni Sofer)

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3877447,00.html


90 posted on 04/18/2010 3:56:14 PM PDT by jhpigott
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To: jhpigott

Got to admire Israelis. You know where they stand.


91 posted on 04/18/2010 4:00:15 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: imjimbo

The Only downside is that 85% of Israel is secular Humanist/Aetheist If the Syrians mess with the Catholic Shrines.....they will see a Catholic Backlash they never imagined!


92 posted on 04/18/2010 4:52:02 PM PDT by philly-d-kidder (....Nothing is more powerful than a man who prays...(St. John Chrysostom))
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To: Munz

Zero ignororing Netanyahu on his Last visit was like those times he used to vote present to avoid deciding!


93 posted on 04/18/2010 4:53:47 PM PDT by philly-d-kidder (....Nothing is more powerful than a man who prays...(St. John Chrysostom))
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To: jhpigott; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
...that it will respond to missile attacks from Hezbollah, the militant Lebanese-based Islamist group, by launching immediate retaliation against Syria itself... sent earlier this month, Israel made it clear that it now regards Hezbollah as a division of the Syrian army and that reprisals against Syria will be fast and devastating... "We'll return Syria to the Stone Age by crippling its power stations, ports, fuel storage and every bit of strategic infrastructure if Hezbollah dare to launch ballistic missiles against us," said an Israeli minister, who who was speaking off-the-record, last week.
My only quibble is, Syria returned to the Stone Age when it was conquered by the Mohammedans. Thanks jhpigott.
94 posted on 04/18/2010 5:00:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: dennisw

I can’t predict any interactions among Alewites, Sunnis, and Shiites since I don’t know much about any of them.... but simply as a matter of general political psychology, I doubt that any outside efforts to make Syrian Alewites feel more insecure and more humiliated in the Muslim world is going to make them more amenable to moderation.

Just as Hitler often felt driven to prove he was more “German” (as an Austrian originally) than most Germans, and as Stalin felt driven to prove his “Russian” character (even though he was from Georgia), Assad and his ilk may well respond to insecurity about their identity as Muslims by being more extremist and violent, not less so.


95 posted on 04/18/2010 5:19:13 PM PDT by Enchante (Obama and Brennan think that 20% of terrorists re-joining the battle is just fine with them)
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To: Enchante

The Shiites are roughly 30% of the Middle East Muslim population. Iran’s goal is to convert Sunnis to Shiism. It does it by becoming the most powerful Muslim nation that defies America and Israel and even attacks them directly or via stooges such as Hezbollah. Iranian wackos also have an end times scenario in mind

Alewites are idiots with no oil riches. Their numbers are so tiny, as you know.


96 posted on 04/18/2010 6:27:48 PM PDT by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: philly-d-kidder
hey will see a Catholic Backlash they never imagined!

From who? The Church. Ha!!! They side with Israel's enemies at every opportunity. From the laity??? Ha!!!

97 posted on 04/18/2010 6:32:56 PM PDT by pgkdan (I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: FlyingEagle

“War undoubtedly coming soon over these missiles.”

Yes, I think so.


98 posted on 04/18/2010 6:44:08 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: jhpigott
Doesn’t take a lot of reading between the lines to figure out what was meant here. And I think it can be applied to both the Iranian nuke issue as well as the Hezbollah/Syria issue . . .

No, they're speaking clearly, which is a good thing, and it sounds like they're willing to write off Obama's support. Now they have that final step remaining, the step of putting their faith not in themselves, but in God.

MM (in TX)

99 posted on 04/18/2010 8:07:08 PM PDT by MississippiMan (http://gogmagogblog.wordpress.com/)
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To: pgkdan

Same here. Sorry to respond so late...


100 posted on 04/22/2010 8:45:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Be still & kneel before the know-nothing Omnipotent One, Il Douche' Jr., may fleas be upon him.)
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