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Hyperfast missile to hit anywhere in an hour
Times on line ^ | April 25, 2010 | Tony Allen-Mills in Washington

Posted on 04/24/2010 6:36:14 PM PDT by Touch Not the Cat

HAUNTED by the memory of a lost opportunity to kill Osama Bin Laden before he attacked the World Trade Center in New York, US military planners have won President Barack Obama’s support for a new generation of high-speed weapons that are intended to strike anywhere on Earth within an hour.

Obama’s interest in Prompt Global Strike (PGS), a nonnuclear weapons programme, has alarmed China and Russia and complicated nuclear arms reduction negotiations.

White House officials confirmed last week that the president, who won the Nobel peace prize last year, is considering the deployment of a new class of hypersonic guided missiles that can reach their targets at speeds of Mach 5 — about 3,600mph.

That is nearly seven times faster than the 550mph Tomahawk cruise missiles that arrived too late to kill Bin Laden at an Al-Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan in 1998.

“The ability to attack a wide range of targets at intercontinental range, promptly and without resort to nuclear weapons, is of central importance to US national security,” said Daniel Goure, a defence analyst at the Lexington Institute in Virginia.

The new weapon could be launched from air, land or sea on a long-range missile travelling at suborbital altitudes above 350,000ft. The missile releases a hypersonic pilotless plane that receives updates from satellites as it homes in on its target at up to five times the speed of sound, generating so much heat that it has to be shielded with special materials to avoid melting.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: guided; hypersonic; missiles
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What if there is a Clinton or Obama in charge?
Will they use iton the right people at the right time?
1 posted on 04/24/2010 6:36:14 PM PDT by Touch Not the Cat
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To: Touch Not the Cat

This system will never be put into service (Or at least until 0 is out of office for a few years). The system will be hit with budget cuts.


2 posted on 04/24/2010 6:38:51 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Touch Not the Cat

He could use it on regime dissidents.


3 posted on 04/24/2010 6:39:09 PM PDT by omega4179 (www.jdforsenate.com)
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To: Touch Not the Cat

Exactly. No weapon would kill Bin Laden if the resident doesn’t have the man parts to give the order.


4 posted on 04/24/2010 6:40:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Touch Not the Cat

“Waco... with missiles.”


5 posted on 04/24/2010 6:41:13 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Touch Not the Cat

6 posted on 04/24/2010 6:43:27 PM PDT by Clock King (There's no way to fix D.C.)
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To: Touch Not the Cat

This is quite disturbing. I wonder why any person in the military of the US would give him this info. Is Gates behind this info? If he shared this, then he is at total fault...


7 posted on 04/24/2010 6:45:38 PM PDT by KeatsforFirstDog
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To: Touch Not the Cat

Great idea, but really difficult to develop.

I worked on a program to investigate the feasibility of building one of these about 15 years ago. AFAIK all the designs are based on Scramjet technology, which is useful but has many challenges to implement for a missile.

The control system challenge is not to be taken lightly, too. Controlling a missile traveling that fast is really challenging.


8 posted on 04/24/2010 6:47:59 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: webstersII

How much of an efficiency gain do you get when you are running at hypersonic speeds and riding your own shock wave?


9 posted on 04/24/2010 6:51:24 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine
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To: webstersII

Doesnt an ICBM take only about 30 minutes to go to the other side of earth. Cant they carry non-nuclear warheads?


10 posted on 04/24/2010 6:53:36 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Touch Not the Cat

We’ll have to wait for CIC Palin to see if this works.


11 posted on 04/24/2010 7:02:26 PM PDT by rae4palin (RESIST--REPEAL--IMPEACH)
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To: Touch Not the Cat

“...has alarmed China and Russia...”

Who gives a rat’s *ss.


12 posted on 04/24/2010 7:09:00 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Touch Not the Cat

I too fear he plans to use such weapon systems in-Country on revolting peasants.


13 posted on 04/24/2010 7:12:46 PM PDT by mcshot (Flip da house and repel the RINOs.)
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To: Touch Not the Cat

“That is nearly seven times faster than the 550mph Tomahawk cruise missiles that arrived too late to kill Bin Laden at an Al-Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan in 1998.”

It had nothing to do with the speed of the missile. The Clinton regime tipped off OBL’s buddies.


14 posted on 04/24/2010 7:12:59 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: webstersII
Is this similar to this one that the Russians and Indians have been working on:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BrahMos

?

15 posted on 04/24/2010 7:24:09 PM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: webstersII

Google X-37.


16 posted on 04/24/2010 7:37:51 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“How much of an efficiency gain do you get when you are running at hypersonic speeds and riding your own shock wave?”

I don’t know about the shock wave part of it, but the scramjet effect is to take in huge amounts of air. The issue is that the engine can’t light off until it’s in the range of its cruise speed. You can get it to that speed but it takes a huge amount of fuel (not efficient) or an airborne launch from a high-speed aircraft (lots of control issues at launch).


17 posted on 04/24/2010 7:56:34 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: buccaneer81

“Google X-37.”

That’s not a missile.


18 posted on 04/24/2010 7:57:33 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: webstersII
That’s not a missile.

You're right. It's a delivery system.

19 posted on 04/24/2010 7:59:49 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: webstersII

Just put it on a ballistic missile and launch. It’ll be there in an hour or less or your next delivery is free!


20 posted on 04/24/2010 8:03:40 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine
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To: Touch Not the Cat
". . . memory of a lost opportunity to kill Osama Bin Laden . . ."

He's dead, Jim.

21 posted on 04/24/2010 8:07:25 PM PDT by blues_guitarist (ISLAM=DEATH!! . . . . . . black & humble . . .)
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To: James C. Bennett

“Is this similar to this one that the Russians and Indians have been working on:”

Yes.

But physics is physics and they are fighting the same challenges the US or anyone else is. I’m not saying it’s impossible, it’s just one of those programs that will take an enormous effort to ever get it working. So far the funding and interest hasn’t been there.

For example, what will the airframe be made out of? The speeds we are talking about here are way more than an SR-71 ever flew, for example. You have to make an airframe that can sustain hundreds of degrees for an extended period of time. That means hotspots will be 1000+ degrees, and internal temps can be impossible to keep electronic and other components from melting down.

That just scratches the surface of the issues involved in getting a 5,000 mph missile operational. I’m interested to see if it ever comes aobut.


22 posted on 04/24/2010 8:13:55 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: buccaneer81

“You’re right. It’s a delivery system. “

It could be a delivery system but that doesn’t solve the problems with developing a 5,000 mph missile.


23 posted on 04/24/2010 8:18:52 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: Touch Not the Cat

The CNN anchors were cooing over this thing just the other day. I think the announcement is another Obama head fake, timed to offset public unease about our nuclear disarmament. CNN’s talking point was that it could hit Osama’s hiding place in Afghanistan, a notion that the Dems have been cynically peddling for a while now in place of a real, muscular commitment to fighting terror. This is just an extension of that.


24 posted on 04/24/2010 8:22:42 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

“I think the announcement is another Obama head fake, timed to offset public unease about our nuclear disarmament. “

That makes sense.


25 posted on 04/24/2010 8:26:07 PM PDT by webstersII
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To: Touch Not the Cat

This has as much chance of being deployed, as U.S. Citizens have of stepping on the Moon or a planet before 2100, if Obama gets his way.


26 posted on 04/24/2010 8:39:40 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Be still & kneel before the know-nothing Omnipotent One, Il Douche' Jr., may fleas be upon him.)
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To: Venturer
> Doesnt an ICBM take only about 30 minutes to go to the other side of earth.

Nope, even at orbital velocity (18,000 MPH) it still takes 90 minutes to go around the earth.

An ICBM traveling at near-orbital velocity may be in flight for 30 minutes, but it only makes it about 5-6000 miles distance, maybe a quarter of the way around the earth, in that time. There's also the ascent and descent time to figure in...

27 posted on 04/24/2010 8:54:47 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Touch Not the Cat
Absolute BS!!! Secretary Cohen told Pakistan that he was sending missiles to the Afghanistan camp several hours before they attacked. Pakistanis sympathetic to Osama Bin Laden warned him and he was long gone before the Cruise Missiles got to the aspirin factory in the Sudan and the camp in Afghanistan. Shoot, I had time to call Senator Trent Lotts office in Jackson four hours before the attack and tell Lott that an attack was imminent. Clearly one third of the freepers here knew the attack was coming. A missile that would get there in one second would have been too late.
28 posted on 04/24/2010 10:18:52 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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Perhapes a re-incarnation of the old F.O.B.S space based systems?
29 posted on 04/24/2010 10:25:18 PM PDT by ASOC (In case of attack, tune to 640 kilocycles or 1240 kilocycles on your AM dial.)
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