Posted on 04/27/2010 6:30:56 AM PDT by Scythian
Have some people on this post lost their minds???!!!!!
Tracking people? Are you kidding me??? That is unacceptable in any situation!
Please someone tell me....are we in the freaking twilight zone? This is a horrible nightmare, Lord God please save us!
Something similar was said when an electric starter was proposed for the then new automobile.
Your analogy was the seatbelt law, which IS a mandate.
It was your analogy.
Your analogy was the seatbelt law, which IS a mandate.
It was your analogy.
I miss your point.
Headlights at night are a mandate as well.
We accept/endure/encourage MANY mandates.
Some come from government, some come from school principals, some come from insurers.
If you care to, please elaborate.
The point is, you’re ok with a mandate forcing people to take pills with transmitters.
I’m not ok with that. Not now, not ever.
OK, Now I understand.
Actually buried deep in other posts I made the point that I DO NOT support a Federal mandate for “taking pills with transmitters.” I made the point that there are medical reasons to do this in very specific, high-risk and/or chronic care cases, BUT it needs to be consensual; doctor-patient kinda thing. NOT FEDERALLY mandated by some staffer in DC.
Thanks for the clarification.
Look, if someone is convicted of a crime, the state has every right to lock them up. Most people, given a choice between being locked up, and taking medication that carries a compliance tracking tool, would pick the medication. When someone is convicted of a crime, the priority shifts from that person’s rights, to society’s right to be protected from that person. For certain types of psychiatric conditions, medication is a fairly reliable way to bring the person back to sanity.
**Big Brother to track your medication compliance with electronic transmitters in pills**
Will we be notified which pills have the elctronic device. What’s now to say that it ends up in the toilet? LOL! (Had to say it!)
You purchase a service from a corporation (or the government).
Because you are now their customer, they have the ‘right’ to enslave you to suit themselves.
That is what you are arguing.
You need to learn how to read/comprehend better. I certainly hope you are not a contract lawyer or ever intend to be one.
When you purchase a service, in this case insurance, you MUTUALLY agree to the terms and conditions of that contract. That’s perhaps why they are called an insurance POLICY. The corporation has obligations in that contract and so do you. THAT is not enslaving anyone. Don’t resort to such hyperbole; it ruins your argument.
So, if a healthcare insurer decides to changes the terms of the contract, you have the right to leave that contract and find one you like. The change can be higher costs, different coverage or restrictions, or even changes in what you have to report periodically. If you don’t like their offer/terms, find a new one.
The above holds true in a market-based environment where choices are available and competition is in place.
On the other hand, when the government ( i.e., Obamacare) MANDATES terms and conditions AND removes choices (i.e., dictates terms) then that is not enslaving either — that is totalitarianism.
In summary: *IF* the patient and their doc MUTUALLY agree to this, it’s OK with me. *IF* my CHOSEN insurer tells me I have to demonstrate compliance by using tagged pills if they are going to continue coverage and benefits ANDIF I AGREE to those terms, that’s OK as well. *IF* a hospital seeks to reduce medical errors and reduce costs by implementing this system for in-patient care as part of a CPOE/Pharmacy system, I think it’s a good idea.
*IF* the government removes all choice from healthcare and mandates this for me, I have a real problem with it.
Clear yet?
You cannot be more wrong.
You forget, in your argument, you’re purchasing a good from a corporation. That NEVER means transferring your fundamental constitutionally guaranteed right to privacy and the sovereignty over your own person in exchange for ANYTHHING. Any corporation that would create a ‘policy’ that deprives you of your rights, is not an American corporation and should have its corporate status removed by the American people.
You see, a company incorporates at the will of the American people, through application to the government of the American people, and any corporation that violates the fundamental precepts of the United States Constitution should have its corporate status removed by the American people.
In an ideal world, some of these jokers promoting fascism through corporatism should go to jail.
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