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A Further Inquiry into Obama's Origins
The American Thinker ^ | April 27, 2010 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 04/27/2010 5:22:36 PM PDT by as1001

Last week I contributed an article to American Thinker on Obama's origins that evoked a good deal of informed response. In it, I argued that the failure of the mainstream media to document the first year of Barack Obama's life has rendered the media accounts of the year before his birth suspect.

Here is what we know about Obama's first year. On August 19, 1961, fifteen days after Obama's presumed birth, his mother, "Stanley Ann Dunham," enrolled for classes at the University of Washington at Seattle.

The apolitical Washington State historical blog HistoryLink confirms Ann's arrival in August 1961, identifies her Capitol Hill apartment in Seattle, names the courses she took, and documents an extended stay by Ann and little Obama into the summer of 1962.

Incredibly, not one of the mainstream media accounts I consulted -- including four book-length biographies, several long-form magazine and newspaper bios, Obama's official campaign biography, and Obama's 1995 memoir Dreams From My Father -- places Ann and Obama anywhere other than in Hawaii during that first year.

Given this collective failure and the Obama camp's squirrelly response to questions about his birth certificate, another look at the circumstances leading up to that birth is warranted. To restore logic and order to this investigation, I turn to a structure we know as Occam's Razor: "Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate.'' This translates roughly as "Multiple variables are not to be posited without necessity." Let me start with the timeline and cast of characters...

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama
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1 posted on 04/27/2010 5:22:36 PM PDT by as1001
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To: Beckwith; bgill; butterdezillion; bvw; conservativegramma; Danae; dennisw; El Gato; exit82; ...

NBC Ping


2 posted on 04/27/2010 5:24:21 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: as1001

AND EVERY BILL HE SIGNED INTO LAW IS “*VOID*!!!!!!!!!!!!!


3 posted on 04/27/2010 5:28:07 PM PDT by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!)
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To: as1001

I am a “birther,” so just prove me wrong by showing me ze paper and shut me up, won’t you, Barrack Hussein?


4 posted on 04/27/2010 5:30:48 PM PDT by Chong (How's that HopEy, changEy, (thingEy) stuff working out for ya?)
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To: as1001

This originally appeared on April 14 (not April 27) if you’ll notice.


5 posted on 04/27/2010 5:30:56 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: Misterioso

How right you are... actually, FEB 14th! I guess that’s what a long day at work will do to ya.

Anyway, I hope y’all find it interesting, despite my major foul-up!


6 posted on 04/27/2010 5:40:19 PM PDT by as1001
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To: as1001

If Barry wasn’t Stanley Ann’s child she never would have taken him with her to Indonesia. Forget that possibility.

If Barry wasn’t born in Kenya the Kenyan ruling class is convinced of the truth of a myth.

Considering Stanley Ann’s enrollment at U. Washington right after Barry’s supposed birth, nothing adds up neatly.

Who is Barry Obama? It’s a mystery!


7 posted on 04/27/2010 5:49:34 PM PDT by devere
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To: as1001

Thought provoking and well researched.
The more Cashill probes, the more questions are raised.
The dying media obviously does not have the intellectual curiosity and bravery of Cashill to investigate the vast unknown
AKA our current president’s life history.


8 posted on 04/27/2010 5:54:46 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: devere
*****BREAKING NEWS***** A newly-discovered Obama Birth Certificate proves that Bill O'Reilly is his father and Megyn Kelly is his mama!

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/04/smoking-gun-say-it-isnt-so-bill-oreilly.html

MAJOR /sarc

9 posted on 04/27/2010 5:56:57 PM PDT by thecraw (God allows evil. God allowed Barry to usurp the highest office in the land. God will not be mocked.)
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To: devere

“...fifteen days after Obama’s presumed birth, his mother, “Stanley Ann Dunham,” enrolled for classes at the University of Washington at Seattle.”

What kind of mother plans on attending college 15 days after giving birth?

He’s got LOSER blood.


10 posted on 04/27/2010 5:57:42 PM PDT by diverteach (D.C. has become Jonestown)
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To: devere

“...fifteen days after Obama’s presumed birth, his mother, “Stanley Ann Dunham,” enrolled for classes at the University of Washington at Seattle.”

What kind of mother plans on attending college 15 days after giving birth?

He’s got LOSER blood.


11 posted on 04/27/2010 5:58:25 PM PDT by diverteach (D.C. has become Jonestown)
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To: as1001

Obama is a complete fabrication, and unknown.


12 posted on 04/27/2010 6:07:10 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: diverteach

I can imagine an 18 year old feeling good enough physically to start classes in 15 days, BUT, I cannot imagine many new mothers, of any age, being able to undertake caring for a newborn without lots of help early on.


13 posted on 04/27/2010 6:07:32 PM PDT by Abby4116
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To: as1001

Finally someone is taking up the fact that Stanley Ann was in Seattle with baby Barry 15 days after his birth.


14 posted on 04/27/2010 6:16:55 PM PDT by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: as1001

15 posted on 04/27/2010 6:17:46 PM PDT by relictele
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To: as1001

I found this article some time ago

Research - More on Obama’s citizenship and Stanley Ann attending Washington University during Obama’s alleged birthdate
Posted on May 12th, 2009 by David-Crockett

Something needs to be explained in the birth of Barack Hussein Obama jr. in that if the records were simply there for the dropping out of the sky, the records would be public, or, like in the case of the group which data mined Barack Obama’s passport files, and that individual started cooperating with authorities, he would be found dead as he was outside his Church with bullet holes in him.

If there was evidence which did exist, it is now sitting in the archive files of the cartels which run this world as the blackmail puppet strings to keep Birdie Obama in line.

Of course, Obama is so Mugabe Marxist that he makes Karl Marx look like George Washington.

I’ve heard some about this, in that, Obama being selected was also part of the plan, to keep him in check, because at anytime, those that put him in office can simply demand the birth certficate thus putting him out of office.

People have to understand that this is not “your records on file” which you can not get at or anyone in authority could simply remove, Obama’s records have already been dry cleaned in his birth records and sealed with a full bead weld that they will never see the light of day.

That is why this blog noted the arena which Obama was vulnerable in was his passport files and his student loans, because that is where one person died already and where Obama has spent almost a million dollars in legal fees hiding the evidence there.

This is why I pointed out months ago that Obama’s vulnerability is Justice Breyer and Ginsburg international law, because legally under British Mandate in the British Nationality Act of 1948 which Birdie Obama was born under states, once a British subject always a British subject.

Birdie Obama qualifies on these counts, because his record of birth father is Barack Hussein Obama sr. of Kenya and in Barack sr. marrying an underage minor (a minor who in most civilized nations would have been termed raped by an adult male as Ms. Dunham was under 18 years old when she had sex.), made Ms. Dunham a British subject under British law.

The only way to end British citizenship is a public renouncement which neither Mrs. Obama nor Barack jr. ever did.
Barack is British, period.

Why this requires being visited again is when this blog spoke of Mrs. Obama having Birdie in Canada, it was viewed as normal behavior.

Normal means no American airline would have allowed a pregnant woman to fly to Africa nor would any physician due to the vaccines a pregnant woman would have to be given as it would endanger the baby.

That would conclude a Canadian birth as it is certain Birdie was born not in Hawaii and later registered there as a live birth. One does not register a child in Hawaii if the child is born in Washington state.

So either Mrs. Obama lied to the airlines, lied to a doctor to get herself vaccinate with poisons to gain entrance to Kenya which endangered the baby she was carrying, or she had the baby in the likely location of British Columbia, as a woman married to a foreign national.

That is the point, either Mrs. Stanley Obama is exposed as a psychotic female endanger her baby or she is exposed as a manipulative female registering the child in Canada, because Birdie was not born in America.

The tale of Washington state is the evidence which no one has really reviewed as it shows information and the most bizarre of circumstances.

We know for a fact that a friend at Mercer Island, Washington, stated Stanley arrived on the Island in August 1961. Arrived means she was travelling from some location. Airlines do indeed have records of flights, so if she was flying from Africa, Pan Am would have that data. Those records are stored in Florida.

My attempt to have someone in the archive search those records was met with as much silence as the Pakistani government reviewing their Barack Soetero records.

If not Kenya, then once again it means Canada. Logical forensic deduction means British Columbia.

We simply know Stanley Ann Obama was on the move in August of 1961 as the fact. Women were in English societies kept almost a week in hospital, so that data would fit that wherever Birdie was birthed, Stanley Ann had changed her mind about wherever she was in finding no home in Africa as Barack sr. had a wife there and later going back to Hawaii where there appears to be friction with her parents.

In any event, Barack jr. was registered twice which appears her parents registered Birdie and so did Stanley Ann. Apparently being a hated American in hated America, was not such a bad deal after all for the Dunham Marxists.

A key understanding in Washington is not long after Birdie was born, the fake address of residence in Hawaii was not the Obama residence. In fact, in 1961, while she was supposed to be married to Barack sr. she was in fact living at an apartment in Seattle at 516 13th Avenue E, Capitol Hill (pictured below).

The fake address of Hawaii, no one remembers the Obama’s having been there. The neigbors have been interviewed and said they would remember, but iit was news to them that the Obama’s were their neighbors.

There she was going under the name Mrs. Anna Obama as an alias. She also at this time enrolled at the University of Washington.

Confirmed. She has used several aliases - that is fact. She did attend the U of Washington for awhile.

This is key in records which could be subpoenaed in determining just what type of funding, loans related to the government and nationality Mrs. Obama was operating under for the purpose of noting where Birdie learned at Occidental College and Columbia to tap into the Fulbright Scholarship’s for foreigners grants.

In the bizarre story, Barack sr. had already flown the coop in Hawaii and by 1962, Mrs. Obama was back and settled into Hawaii.

This couple never resided together the evidence shows and gives more forensic deduction to the thought that young Stanley Ann Dunham was a sexual partner like her grandparents, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham of Frank Marshall Davis. Davis very well could have impregnated the young girl as he is on record in having molested a 13 year old child with his wife in their care.

Very possible. Frank Davis was a member of the Communist Party USA in the 1960s, the same organization the Dunham’s were also members of. Frank sold drugs on the streets of Hawaii, and Obama helped him - this is documented. Frank also wrote a book a called “Sex Rebel” which descibed Frank’s adventures of having sex with teen girls for drugs, but also mentioning he liked both sexes, and had sex with both sexes. Obama may have been speaking of Frank in one of his poems (documented) - “His smell became my smell after it was over”.

Only DNA testing would prove just what was occurring in this strange story.

But by 1964, Stanley Ann Obama would divorce Barack sr. and by 1967 have married Lolo Soetoro to have a daughter by 1970.

It would be in Indonesia that she would for the Ford Foundation set up microfinance operations to bankrupt the 3rd world and take it over. Another odd twist is Stanley Ann was in anthropological education and ended up in banking like her mother.

The same Micro-finance scheme (predatory lending scheme - getting rich off the poor) was used by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Obama was getting kick-backs from Fannie Mae for ten straight years, while banks were held to a government mandate to give out these loans (backed by Fannie Mae), never knowing Fannie Mae would drop the hammer just before Obama became Usurper thus making Obama the savior to this finanical crisis.

As this blog has pointed out, Stanley Ann apparently tried a last ditch effort to make something of her wayward, drugged out son, Barry in what would be termed an intervention. It seems to be based upon the CIA studies to create Manchurian type candidates and why Obama is so phobic about the terrorists held in captivity at Gitmo, in releasing them.
Obama would describe his mother in a most toxic way in terming her, “the dominant figure of my formative years”.

The proof is in the pudding .. or should we say in the pond scum in these matters. Obama was recruited to study “Sovietology” by a high-ranking CIA officer, who was also acting as a Professor for International Studies at Occidental College. From there, everything was scripted for Obama - his jobs etc.

Children often describe parents as strict, kind, strong and loving, but for Obama to use the martial term of dominant notes an entirely different and antagonistic relationship which he resents. This manifested in Obama leaving his mother to die of cancer after the intervention episode.

The jury is still out on his Mother’s death. Hawaii has no records of her having been treated there for cancer, nor were there any death records for Ann until about a month before the election when there was evidence found that Stanley A. was using aliases as recently as 2008 - based on a real-estate transaction and fake marriage certificates to a John Allen. Both aliases were married to the same John and were direct relatives of Ann’s, though she has no such relatives. The aliases track directly back to her - see side story on this blog about Ann, her aliases, and the Dunham family front businesses for real-estate fraud.

It also reveals one last slap at Barack Obama in a mother’s rejection and abandonment of him, as she apparently believed the intervention did not succeed, for before she died of cancer which Obama was using as a sympathy vote in the campaign, Stanley Ann Soetero was attempting once again to taste the Jungle Fever of her youth in trying to take custody of a South Korean baby born of an American black father in the mid 1990’s.

The jury is still out on her abandoment of him as well. Several sources have indicated, including a recently “scrubbed” Danish article explaining Obama went back to Indonesia with his Mother after her divorce from Barack Sr. This could very well be true, as most of it has now been scrubbed from the Internet. It would mean Obama didn’t attend school in Hawaii, but rather, in Indoensia through his teen years.

Amusing irony that around 1995, Barack Obama’s own mother had basically written her first protege off in Birdie, and she was attempting to clone a nubian second chance in Madonna like parade of rescuing a child from his own people.

Stanley Ann abandons Birdie a second time seeing what a loser this guy is and by 2008, an American liberal majority elect the guy to the White House.

Ain’t that buying the 3 legged mule at a horse auction.

Heinz Ward of the Pittsburgh Steelers is a Korean Black child, and he seemed to do wonderfully well to the delight of millions of Americans in being left to his own development without some liberal unbalanced woman kidnapping him to brainwash him to greatness.

So that is the continuing tale of Stanley and Birdie Obama. If the evidence was there, it is no doubt now laundered, and those who have seen it, have died from lead poisoning. It is an unsafe venture for people to delve into as the cartels are not about to allow this to upset the Obama boat.

By their actions, their concerns are the college and passport records and not the birth records any longer.

This is why I advocated certain London or American lawyers file cases based upon British Law due to Breyer and Ginsburg incorporating foreign law into American Law to test the standard as these cases would have standing in answering the question, which laws does Barack Obama have to follow first, American Constitutional Law or British Commonwealth Law, as he was born British and is British Indonesian currently.

It all becomes history though as each day buries the reality that British subject Obama is installed like a 48 year old molar with roots buried deep down to China with no one with a pliers to pull him out of the Oval Office.

This investigative work is not for normal people as if they do stumble onto anything, they will either be ruined like Eliot Spitzer, incarcerated like Lawrence Sinclair or humiliated like Joseph Farah was. This is the big league with only one league, one referee, one owner and one cheating doctrine in they always win.

It is an interesting story though as more bits fit together and a few more people daily furrow their brows reading the facts and shake their heads in disbelief wondering how this all came to be.


6 Responses to “Research - More on Obama’s citizenship and Stanley Ann attending Washington University during Obama’s alleged birthdate”

Joseph L. Saebi // May 12, 2009 at 2:13 pm
Having chatted with a friend of Stanley Ann, this rings true, at least the early childhood theory. There is a “single mother’s home” in British Columbia (or at least it was in 1961) in Victoria; a couple hours drive from Seattle. Also, there was a new ferry crossing there that Stanley would have had to go across into Canada. Maybe someone has access to the records there? I believe the same ferry is still crossing!

Perhaps someone in that home (it is still in existence) has access to the old records, or knows someone there. Also….Stanley Ann borrowed a car while there, in Seattle; a friend of the family’s….whose car was that? They know more.

njresident // May 12, 2009 at 3:24 pm
This animated cartoon-style musical revue by Newday’s Walt Handelsman will give you a lighter moment of reprieve from contemplating the horrifying slide into socialism being engineered by the Obama administration:

http://www.newsday.com/media/flash/2009-04/46217527.swf

lightyourcandle2 // May 12, 2009 at 3:39 pm
This came from the Lame Cherry website and someone forgot to give them credit. Thanks. You don’t have to post this comment, just mention LameCherry on here. Thanks.

SvenMagnussen // May 12, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Occidental College is on record it will provide Soetoro’s college transcripts if a Court orders it to do so. Soetoro’s lawyers successfully prevented such an order. The attorney seeking Soetoro’s transcripts has vowed to appeal.

The usurper will be exposed eventually. And then the process of removal begins.

jcscuba // May 13, 2009 at 1:03 am
Here’s a source for you David. I’ve been trying to track the occidental connection with scrubbed links and leads, I posted it before it was taken down, these people are really playing dirty tricks. J.C.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2004334057_obama08m.html

Kaleokualoha // May 19, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Obama’s short form COB meets the standard of proof for citizenship required by the State Department at http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/79955.pdf


16 posted on 04/27/2010 6:24:11 PM PDT by phockthis
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To: as1001
What does the year before his birth have to do with the issue? The Constitution doesn't require the President to be of legitimate birth, only a citizen by birth (most of the Founders assumed that Alexander Hamilton, an illegitimate son, would be President sooner or later).
17 posted on 04/27/2010 6:24:31 PM PDT by estebeta
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To: Chong
I am a “birther,” so just prove me wrong by showing me ze paper and shut me up, won’t you, Barrack Hussein?

Why would he do that? You and yours are his best friend in the intertubes.

18 posted on 04/27/2010 6:26:26 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: as1001

Global Warming has always been a scam to make “some” rich and powerful.

ALL Congressmen who voted for Cap & Trade MUST be REMOVED.

They are either Traitors or simply too stupid to hold public office. NO EXCEPTION!

Here is the list:

Updated Congressional Vote Score Card>

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2406579/posts

Then, after exhausting the list of those who consistently voted Yes (yellow highlight), we need to go after those who gave aid to the enemy within.

“Treason” is the only word that describes what they have done.


19 posted on 04/27/2010 6:27:09 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: SpaceBar

Silly me! I’m gullible enough to think that Rev. Manning’s court case. which is supposed to commence on May 14th might shed some light on this whole question.


20 posted on 04/27/2010 6:30:57 PM PDT by Tucker39
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To: jonrick46

Maybe in taking her newborn to Seattle so she could care for him in the midst of college classes, she was also trying to keep this baby far from someone or some place,

or....

Maybe the baby had been in Seattle all along and maybe even born there.

Most scenarios lead to the distinct possibility the baby had not yet been in Hawaii prior to her starting classes.


21 posted on 04/27/2010 6:32:36 PM PDT by Mack Truck (C.A.I.R. is a repressive Islamist terrorist front group and an enemy of America)
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To: jonrick46

Maybe in taking her newborn to Seattle so she could care for him in the midst of college classes, she was also trying to keep this baby far from someone or some place,

or....

Maybe the baby had been in Seattle all along and maybe even born there.

Most scenarios lead to the distinct possibility the baby had not yet been in Hawaii prior to her starting classes.


22 posted on 04/27/2010 6:32:36 PM PDT by Mack Truck (C.A.I.R. is a repressive Islamist terrorist front group and an enemy of America)
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To: phockthis

“Occidental College is on record it will provide Soetoro’s college transcripts if a Court orders it to do so. Soetoro’s lawyers successfully prevented such an order. The attorney seeking Soetoro’s transcripts has vowed to appeal.”

If Rev. Manning is correct, the Occidental transcripts will show only partial records for Obummer, indicating when he left for Afghanistan at the behest of the CIA.


23 posted on 04/27/2010 6:33:50 PM PDT by Tucker39
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To: diverteach
Let's not be too hasty here. Maybe it was a different Stanley Ann Dunham who enrolled at the University of Washington in August 1961. There must be loads of girls named Stanley who happen to have the Dunham surname.

What if Barack's sperm donor had been someone other than a foreign student from Kenya? What if he had been born white? What would he be doing now? Selling cars? Selling real estate? Bank manager? Insurance agent?

24 posted on 04/27/2010 6:34:04 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: relictele

Well the family on the right seems to be missing a husband for the 17 year old’s child (not shown), is that it?


25 posted on 04/27/2010 6:37:24 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: Tucker39

This is what I find interesting

“There is a “single mother’s home” in British Columbia (or at least it was in 1961) in Victoria; a couple hours drive from Seattle. Also, there was a new ferry crossing there that Stanley would have had to go across into Canada. Maybe someone has access to the records there? I believe the same ferry is still crossing!”


26 posted on 04/27/2010 6:38:12 PM PDT by phockthis
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To: Verginius Rufus

“PIMP”


27 posted on 04/27/2010 6:39:38 PM PDT by phockthis
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To: Verginius Rufus
The Long-Legged Mack Daddy.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ATLAHWorldwide?blend=2&ob=1#p/u/4/uET6jSKfdhQ

28 posted on 04/27/2010 6:54:33 PM PDT by thecraw (God allows evil. God allowed Barry to usurp the highest office in the land. God will not be mocked.)
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To: as1001; All

There were some interesting speculations posed that could be answered genetically:

(1) Is Stanley Ann Dunham BHO’s mother? Well if someone can get a DNA sample from his half sister (known to be Ann’s daugther) and a sample of BHO’s (not that hard - skin cells, siliva on a cig butt,etc.), then they can compare the mitochrondrial DNA (passed by mother to child unchanged). If BHO and his half sister’s mitochondria DNA don’t match...then Stanley Ann Dunham is not his mother.

(2) Is Stanley Dunham (purported grandfather) actually BHO’s father. OK...this will be a little harder. One one need a DNA sample from a male Dunham that descended from the same Male Dunham ancestor as Stanley Dunham and compare the Y chromosome (passed from father to son unchanged) of BHO to it. If it is a match, then Stanley Dunham is likely BHO’s biological father.

(3) Using the Y chromosome it should be possible to determine if BHO is indeed Barrack Obama Sr’s son. Find a male Obama relative that is a child of Obama Sr. or a father to son descendent of Barrack Sr.’s father or grandfather. IF the Y chromosomes match, then BHO is the son of Barrack Obama, Sr.

Getting these samples would not be hard for a group of PIs working to tail the president and the associated relatives. People leave DNA samples all the time. Saliva on a cig butt or glass is a good place to find it. Left behind skin cells,etc. The key is to properly document the collection process and get good labs to do the work.

Go to it!


29 posted on 04/27/2010 7:01:55 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: as1001

save for l8r


30 posted on 04/27/2010 7:07:06 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Free Nobel Peace Prize with oil change =^..^=)
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To: devere
If Barry wasn’t Stanley Ann’s child she never would have taken him with her to Indonesia. Forget that possibility.

Oh, I wouldn't jump to that conclusion. And she didn't keep him there all that long. As soon as he wanted out, she sent him back to Hawaii.

31 posted on 04/27/2010 7:09:35 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Sic semper tyrannis! Stop spending. Starve the beast.)
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To: diverteach
What kind of mother plans on attending college 15 days after giving birth?

And didn't this also supposedly involve giving birth in Hawaii, then traveling to Seattle, getting an apartment and moving in etc. with a 15-day old baby?

I wonder if airlines even allowed such new mothers and such new babies to fly back then. There used to be quite a few restrictions on such things.

Women often stayed in the hospital for a while after birth, too, I think.

32 posted on 04/27/2010 7:11:56 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Sic semper tyrannis! Stop spending. Starve the beast.)
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To: Abby4116
If we were to do some homework on the net (much has been removed in the last 18 months), we'd find a report or more of Stanley Ann's college classmates saying she had the baby with her in Seattle in Fall 1961 in an apartment off campus...even the names of babysitters. You'd also find that friends in Hawaii saw her in a two piece swim suit (she wasn't bikini material) on the beach in Waikiki in July 1961 (claimed date of birth 8/04/61) certainly not showing at all.

Probable scenario is that BHO II was born as much as 3-4 months earlier in either Mercer Island WA (where Stanley Ann attended high school) or more likely in Canada (BC) where there were numerous homes for unwed mothers ala Crittendon.

Frank Davis, close family friend of the senior Dunham, is most probably the father. He left Seattle/Mercer Island a few years before at the request of the local court after facing pedophile (underage girls) allegations. A pregnant Stanley Ann met BHO I at U. of Hawaii and he bought into a deal before their 'marriage' in Mauai and before BHO II's birth. He had nothing to lose and quite possibly thought this would gain him American citizenship. Recall that no one has ever reported seeing the President's parents together, let alone living together.

Although this scenario makes the President a natural born citizen, he is also guilty of a host of misdemeanors or felonies for faking records since the gitgo. Virtually a life a layered frauds since diapers, hence the sealed records, school papers, numerous SS#'s, failure to register for the draft and the yielded law license in Illinois. Who passes the bar as a magna cum laude Harvard Law grad and then turns around and walks away?

33 posted on 04/27/2010 7:12:41 PM PDT by masadaman
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To: diverteach

Unless a lot of lies have been told...


34 posted on 04/27/2010 7:13:25 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: diverteach

Also, I’ve read that there is a distinct possibility these may have been extension or correspondance courses.


35 posted on 04/27/2010 7:14:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: estebeta

Ahem, newbie. Not a “citizen by birth’ but a natural born citizen .


36 posted on 04/27/2010 7:17:08 PM PDT by masadaman
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To: estebeta

Also, for the record, Hamilton was born in the British Virgin Islands, if I recall correctly.


37 posted on 04/27/2010 7:21:31 PM PDT by masadaman
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To: phockthis

I would be interested in knowing more about the actual travel time and method from Honolulu to Seattle in 1961, especially for a new mother with an infant barely two weeks old.

What type of airplanes made that run and from Honolulu to where? Etc.


38 posted on 04/27/2010 7:27:37 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Sic semper tyrannis! Stop spending. Starve the beast.)
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To: masadaman

Those who were born before the adoption of the Constitution were deemed “citizens” since when they were born there was no United States of America. Not sure about Hamilton’s birth place, though.


39 posted on 04/27/2010 7:37:57 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: diverteach

What kind of mother plans on attending college 15 days after giving birth?
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AND without her new husband, supposed father of her first born. I don’t know what the truth is, but I am sure it’s not as he tells it. None of it makes any sense and he refuses address it.


40 posted on 04/27/2010 7:38:41 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Our leaders seek to pit us against one another, and torment us relentlessly."Mark Levin)
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To: as1001

As for Michelle’s remark that BO’s mother had been “very young and very single” at the time of his birth, I recall that there is video of the Rev Jeremiah Wright talking about how Obama was the candidate who could relate to the plight of the poor single mother, having been the child of a poor single mother himself.

Something like that. Worth checking into, I suppose.


41 posted on 04/27/2010 7:41:08 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Sic semper tyrannis! Stop spending. Starve the beast.)
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To: little jeremiah

Absolutely, but the poster was using ‘citizen by birth’ as if it applied today. Checked: Hamilton born in Nevis B.W.I.


42 posted on 04/27/2010 7:41:32 PM PDT by masadaman
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
In Dreams, Obama tells how pleased the senior Dunhams were with the success of Ann in high school, but Stanley forbade her to go to the University of Chicago, "deciding that she was still too young to be living on her own."

Why would a girl who grew up in Seattle have her heart set on going to the University of Chicago of all places? What would draw her there? Was Mr. Davis still in Chicago at the time? If so, why did Mr. Davis choose Hawaii as his next stop?

43 posted on 04/27/2010 7:46:06 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Sic semper tyrannis! Stop spending. Starve the beast.)
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To: fightinJAG; mojitojoe

They want her to be single so the Kenya birth wouldn’t make sense, for one thing; and if she had given birth in Kenya but was single, he at least would be a US citizen if not natural born. But, if he was born in Kenya and she was married to 0bama Sr in Kenya (or wherever, if they were married, seems likely there), then he was not a US citizen of any kind.

So they like to say she was single.

That’s what I think is their motivation.


44 posted on 04/27/2010 7:51:38 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: fightinJAG

As soon as he wanted out, she sent him back to Hawaii.
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Not really. As soon as Frank Marshall Davis got divorced and his wife moved out, she sent him back to Hawaii. Coincidence? Maybe. Maybe not.


46 posted on 04/27/2010 7:56:31 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Our leaders seek to pit us against one another, and torment us relentlessly."Mark Levin)
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To: masadaman

You’d also find that friends in Hawaii saw her in a two piece swim suit (she wasn’t bikini material) on the beach in Waikiki in July 1961
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I believe that was a rumor and the photo was proved to not be Stanley Anne.


47 posted on 04/27/2010 7:57:33 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Our leaders seek to pit us against one another, and torment us relentlessly."Mark Levin)
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48 posted on 04/27/2010 8:01:03 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Our leaders seek to pit us against one another, and torment us relentlessly."Mark Levin)
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To: as1001
OK, I have a question for the readers of this thread. I quote the following from the comments to the Cashill article: "Anyone born on American soil is a native born citizen. This is the problem we face with illegal aliens having babies in the US. The parents may be illegal aliens but their "anchor baby" is a native born citizen. But "native born" ≠ "natural born". It only means that individual is legally a citizen." Now, is this true? Some baby born within the US is automatically a citizen? I don't think so, but I ain't all that smart on stuff. Let's say a couple is visiting here from Garbanzola and the female is preggars. She spits out the progeny while in-country here. Is that baby an American, or a Garbanzolian? Seems like the little squeaker's citizenship would still be that of the parents. But then I'm no lawyer, and I don't play one on this forum.
49 posted on 04/27/2010 8:04:21 PM PDT by West Texas Chuck (US out of the UN - UN out of the US)
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To: fightinJAG
I would be interested in knowing more about the actual travel time and method from Honolulu to Seattle in 1961, especially for a new mother with an infant barely two weeks old. What type of airplanes made that run and from Honolulu to where? Etc.

You can tell the very young FReepers. You all think that 1961 was the dark ages or something. The Boeing 707(a jet powered airliner) was flying in 1961, so was one of the greatest(if not the greatest)prop driven airliners of the 20th century, the constellation. Both of them made trips to and from the states and HI regularly, to Washington state and to CA airports.

50 posted on 04/27/2010 9:06:30 PM PDT by calex59
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