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Breaking News: Charlie Crist to Run as Independent in Florida Senate Race, Sources Tell Fox News
Fox News ^ | April 28, 2010

Posted on 04/28/2010 9:54:31 AM PDT by Zakeet

The headline is all that's up at the present time.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: crist; fl2010; florida; senate; thirdparty
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Finally, the RINOs go third party! The purge is well underway.


101 posted on 04/28/2010 12:45:11 PM PDT by sefarkas (Why vote Democrat Lite?)
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To: caww

My brother lives in Florida and says the people there are so enraged with Crist and what he has done in the state...he doesn’t think he has much chance of winning as many will vote just to oppose him from staying in office.


102 posted on 04/28/2010 12:46:56 PM PDT by caww
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To: yoe
the oil spill made up his mind for him, he thinks he can use it as a winning issue.
103 posted on 04/28/2010 12:54:32 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

frustrated yes and I hope Rubio takes the time to read the bill and understand it.
I appreciate his problem with north FL and south FL, I’;m in N FL, much more conservative and less illegals,

Hopefully he ears his voters speak and then he could explain how the law is and that the left is distorting that bill

having been an immigrant it really pisses me off that some can come here illegally and take what they want and then moan when they do nto get it


104 posted on 04/28/2010 12:57:58 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: yoe

These guys are like grade school kids. If they don’t get their way, they do things just for spite so the other has a harder time winning.


105 posted on 04/28/2010 1:01:55 PM PDT by Roklok
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Here’s a quote from the latest 3 way Rasmussen poll (Rubio 37%, Crist 30% and Meek 22%):

“Rubio now leads among Republicans and unaffiliated voters with Crist in second. Among Democrats, Meek earns 46% support, while Crist picks up 33% of the Democratic vote.”

Looks like Crist hurts Meek more than Rubio.


106 posted on 04/28/2010 1:14:33 PM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: moose2004
Looks like Crist hurts Meek more than Rubio.

Related: Group will mobilize to demand that Charlie Crist refund donations..."Anybody has the right and the opportunity to ask," Crist said, when asked about refunding donations. "I think we spent it though."

Not sure what the legal issues are here.

107 posted on 04/28/2010 1:36:32 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: Zakeet

Cool... just what we need another Dem Senator...


108 posted on 04/28/2010 1:40:23 PM PDT by TV Dinners (Hope is not a Strategy)
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To: driftdiver

See #67.


109 posted on 04/28/2010 1:41:36 PM PDT by workerbee (Yes, I hate Obama because of his color: RED!)
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To: manc

So, you would rather lose the Florida Senate seat which we need in order to stop Obama from destroying this country then vote for a basically conservative candidate who is not quite as rabidly anti immigrant as you are. What is with you anti immigration people - can’t you think rationally?


110 posted on 04/28/2010 2:08:19 PM PDT by dschapin
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To: napscoordinator

A conservative who is against illegal immigration might well oppose the Arizona law if he thinks it gives the police too much leeway to stop people. I don’t believe the law does this. However, I can certainly see that it is a conservative view to want to protect people from unwarrented searches and seizures. The Anti-immigration wing of the GOP needs to grow up and be able to think rationally instead of shooting anyone who doesn’t agree with them 100% of the time.


111 posted on 04/28/2010 2:11:57 PM PDT by dschapin
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To: dschapin; manc

My first post to you was a little too harsh. I just get frustrated with people (including my local talk show host Lars Larson) who are ready to turn on a conservative candidate and even support more liberal candidates because the conservative candidate does not agree 100% with the most radical anti illegal immigration views.


112 posted on 04/28/2010 2:14:37 PM PDT by dschapin
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To: Zakeet

How can Crist remain a Republican Governor when he is running as no party which means leaving the GOP. He needs kicked out of the Republican Governor’s Conference.

Actually he needs to step down as Governor IMHO as he has abandoned the people who elected him.

BTW, if any of you gave to Crist earlier, Club for Growth is going to have the details on how you can get your money back as soon as he goes no party. They did the same thing to Specter and people receovered $1.2M.


113 posted on 04/28/2010 2:58:09 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Rick Perry - TX Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 !)
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To: Dan Nunn

Yes, well Rubio is in a class of his own in that race...a Real conservative so I think we shall be okay...please God.


114 posted on 04/28/2010 3:06:45 PM PDT by fabian
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To: KansasGirl
He's pulling a Scozzafava, remember who he hugs!

I'm sure there is a cush job for him, if he spoils the vote?

115 posted on 04/28/2010 3:12:31 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (3V3Ry71N' 084M4 D03z 83N3f17Z MU5l1mz. c01NC1d3nc3?)
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To: Zakeet

Cool.

Has John Cornyn issued a statement yet? LOL

They wonder why we don’t want to give our money to them.


116 posted on 04/28/2010 3:28:36 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (?)
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To: Zakeet

We need statesmen, not politicians. This is the act of a self-serving politician, not a statesman.


117 posted on 04/28/2010 3:37:46 PM PDT by seanmerc
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To: Zakeet

bitch....these RINOS are always just about themselves..this may give the Dems the seat.


118 posted on 04/28/2010 3:38:31 PM PDT by wardaddy (life is good, culture is dying)
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To: Zakeet

What a damned hack.


119 posted on 04/28/2010 3:42:38 PM PDT by headstamp 2 ("No Good Deed Goes Unpunished")
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To: pissant

No, they have fully endorsed Rubio and have said if Crist was to do this, he’d never win another Republican election again. He’s more toast then his spray-on tan.


120 posted on 04/28/2010 4:44:26 PM PDT by Brytani (Good Morning Comrades!!! FUBO)
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To: nutmeg

Different scenario - while the GOP backed Crist from the get-go, local GOP offices and the people of Florida have backed Rubio since the start. We did not care who the “good old boys in the GOP wanted. This is why Rubio garnered and kept such a substantial lead over spray-on-tan boy.

In fact, it became so contentious down here the head of the FLGOP was ousted from his seat over this (and other) issues.

This will not be another NY-23.


121 posted on 04/28/2010 4:47:09 PM PDT by Brytani (Good Morning Comrades!!! FUBO)
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To: RockinRight

Exactly - for everyone who is screaming that Rubio came about for illegals, or he didn’t read the Arizona bill or somehow is pro-illegal immigration missed exactly what he was saying. This administration WILL try to use the bill as a means to pass their pro-illegal immigrant amnesty boondoggle.

Rubio understands this for what it is and clearly said so.


122 posted on 04/28/2010 4:50:00 PM PDT by Brytani (Good Morning Comrades!!! FUBO)
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To: Zakeet

His political career is over.


123 posted on 04/28/2010 4:50:25 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Brytani

CNN and AP successfully spun the story and were able to fool the weak minded. we must never forget CNN LIES!


124 posted on 04/28/2010 4:52:59 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Old Grumpy

I agree. This is a great day for OUR party. No more “big tent” for these Obama hugging Rinos. We will win this party back or we will sack it on the way out.


125 posted on 04/28/2010 4:55:05 PM PDT by rogertarp
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To: Brytani

Guess reality made them change their mind. When he was up 20 points on Rubio, they were singing Charlie’s praises and endorsing him full fledged. ROFL. Cornyn, keep the NRSC the HELL out of the primaries.


126 posted on 04/28/2010 5:00:44 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: longtermmemmory

Yep - conservatives should know better than to listen to a 30 second sound byte from CNN or MSNBC.

Rubio was clear in what he said and I have no problem with it. He is right - it IS the federal governments repsonsibility to enforce immigration laws and or borders when they fail in that the States take drastic action.

Rubio is not pro-illegal, he does however understand (being from Florida) that illegal immigration is not simply a black and white issue. Anyone who thinks it is is fooling themselves.

I know people here who have lived in the US for over 40 years - whose children have served, honorably in our armed forces, who own homes and businesses but because of beauratic snafu’s, lost paperwork or pure laziness on the part of the Gov. they have gone from legal residents of the US awaiting their citizenship to illegal status.

No, that is not all of them but it happens all too often. I’d like to hear someone explain how that one facet of the illegal immigration issue can be justified?

A few simple measure would do wonder for our illegal problems.

Secure the borders
Kick out those who came here illegally or anyone here legally who has ties or is a part of MS-13 and other gangs.
Go after people who hire illegals over Americans
Prohibit anchor babies from gaining immediate citizenship


127 posted on 04/28/2010 5:01:21 PM PDT by Brytani (Good Morning Comrades!!! FUBO)
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To: dschapin

I think we’re all frustrated so it’s no problem at all


128 posted on 04/28/2010 5:05:43 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Zakeet

Good. Another progressive exposed.


129 posted on 04/28/2010 5:11:44 PM PDT by grace522 (your wallet is in jeopardy with democrats in office)
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To: Zakeet

The dirty rat.

There’s not a chance that he can win, but he wants to pull a Scozzafava and throw it to the Democrats.

Let’s hope he can’t even do that.


130 posted on 04/28/2010 5:24:47 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SumProVita
His political career is over.

I hope so...
131 posted on 04/28/2010 5:34:21 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: lonevoice

I hope he loses by a landslide.


132 posted on 04/28/2010 5:53:03 PM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: manc

Good Gawd people, get a grip! How long must we travel down this conservative witch-hunt? Now Rubio is relegated to “moderate” or “RINO” because of one statement? Sheesh, thank goodness I don’t make my living in the public spotlight.

Look, the AZ bill helps enforce the current immigration laws..we all know that. However, there is a perception (howbeit wrong) among certain people that the bill amounts to some type of racial profiling. Now we can sit here til we’re blue in the face and arguing the mertis of the bill, but if we fail to get the public to understand that this isn’t the 1950’s/60’s, this argument in is vain and the media will continue to control the issue to the masses.

Rubio is a good conservative guy. But like a lot of conservative candidates, he hasn’t a clue how to articulate this point out effectively. The people I keep trying to explain this bill to want to equate it to the police brutality acts of the 1950’s/60’s on African Americans. What’s more alarming is that people born in the 1980’s+ beyond the pre-civil rights era carry the same perception.
It’s a very very strong perception that can only be addressed through education and a lot of patience.

Maybe Rubio’s heritage has something to do with two-stepping around the bill. It shouldn’t, but don’t throw him under the bus just yet.


133 posted on 04/28/2010 6:09:38 PM PDT by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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To: PhiKapMom

Carole Keeton McClellan Rylander Strayhorn of Austin remained a nominmal “Republican” comptroller of Texas during 2006 while she ran as an “independent” for governor. She later switched to Democrat, I believe, which had been her original party.


134 posted on 04/28/2010 6:15:23 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Cicero

I wonder though about this biblical verse that says “the meek shall inherit the earth.” It may be music to candidate Meek’s ears. And FL has a huge “democracy” that shows its strength every time liberal Bill Nelson is on a ballot.


135 posted on 04/28/2010 6:17:05 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Zakeet

Here is, yet again, a politician who is interested in only serving himself, not the American people. Some people just can’t take “no” for an answer. I’m losing faith in all of our elected officials.


136 posted on 04/28/2010 6:21:51 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: parksstp

not throwing him under as I have donated and done a lot of work here getting him to where he is.

I called this morning and spoke for about 10 mins and asked him about this.
My frustration is not with his stance per se but because I feel he or his staff have not read the bill correctly

for 5 mins we went back and forth over the can the cops stop people when ever they want and ask for status.
He thinks they can I think not and that is why I believe we need to call his office and make him understand that who ever told him this is doing a disservice to him andhis campaign

Also emotions are high because I think many in fact most in this country are not pissed off with what this man obama is doing.
He seem to have gone off the deep end with hsi comments , Today he was saying how eh thinks some have made enough money
the other day him saying how he wants blacks hispanics and women to come out and vote.
where is whites and white men in that. That was racial politics .
The other week him saying that the GOP will try and repeal the bill and then saying bring it on.

Now as for the racial politics, he said no red state no blue state but look at his book and he says he hung around with chicano’;s marxists, commies, black power types etc as to not be a sell out

He came in and said about the cambridge police and how stupid they acted.

he obviously has a problem with whites especially as the black power racist panthers were let go.

I think he looks back and feel whites need to pay a price for slavery and that blacks were hard done by , They were but today blacks have so much even affirmative action going for them

If we had a fair media they would point out all of this but alas they do not


137 posted on 04/28/2010 6:31:45 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: parksstp

sorry for the long rant, I could have gone on much longer.LOL


138 posted on 04/28/2010 6:32:08 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: b4its2late

Also shows what a LYING POS he is!

Wasn’t it two weeks ago that he told Chris Wallace that he Absolutely Would Not run as anything other than a RINO .. Uh .. Republican?


139 posted on 04/28/2010 6:55:50 PM PDT by plinyelder ("I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: rwfromkansas

some freepers are taking the MSM bait on Rubio.

I knew Rubio would have to watch himself more than anybody because MSM and Dems fear minority conservatives more than anything.


140 posted on 04/28/2010 7:03:40 PM PDT by Def Conservative (Obama is a joke.)
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To: Brytani

thanks for that info. I hope yall keep up the good work in Florida.


141 posted on 04/28/2010 7:06:33 PM PDT by Def Conservative (Obama is a joke.)
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To: parksstp
Amen! Thank you!

These same folks who are criticizing Rubio are the same ones still praising Sarah Palin. Yet, Palin is the one supporting McCain who is very pro illegal immigration.

Please everyone, get a grip!

142 posted on 04/28/2010 7:23:37 PM PDT by ConservativeTerrapin (Rubio for Senate 2010)
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To: seanmerc
A statesman is nothing but a dead politician.

We need statesmen, not politicians.

I agree.

143 posted on 04/28/2010 7:29:16 PM PDT by bIlluminati (Don't just hope for change, work for change in 2010.)
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To: Zakeet

The RNC should sue him to get its money back.

If they don’t we need a new party.


144 posted on 04/28/2010 10:54:46 PM PDT by GEC (We're not drilling in ANWR because....)
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To: manc

Rubio hasn’t read the bill. Neither have I. Have you?

Just from what I have seen the police in Arizona can arrest you if you don’t have proper identification.

Do you have your papers with you proving your a citizen?

How about I arrest you and ship your ass back to Africa?

Get the picture.

The cops in Arizona need to be careful how they enforce this or it’s going to start a war they can’t win.


145 posted on 04/29/2010 12:35:49 AM PDT by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope

As I understand this law it will get rid of the illegals on the street much the same as prostitutes or drug dealers. Problem?


146 posted on 04/29/2010 12:38:46 AM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: eyedigress; All

What’s that mean?

Does anyone have link to the law?


147 posted on 04/29/2010 12:45:45 AM PDT by I got the rope
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To: eyedigress
As I understand this law it will get rid of the illegals on the street much the same as prostitutes or drug dealers. Problem?

Yeah. Ok. If that's the case then this law is worthless. Because last I checked prostitution and drug dealing is still going on.
148 posted on 04/29/2010 12:51:18 AM PDT by jerry557
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To: eyedigress

Here’s the problem. There are lots of us that are native to this country that are going to be treated as foreigners in our own land. I know...I’ve had it happen to me.

How many people on this forum have actually been harassed by border patrol? How many have you been asked if you are citizen at the airport by undercover agents?

How many of you carry proof that you are citizen with you at all times?

This is going to be ripe for abuse if Arizona doesn’t watch it. I have family in Arizona, and I can promise you this...if some snot nose punk cop asks me for ID...I’m going to put my foot in his ass.


149 posted on 04/29/2010 12:51:59 AM PDT by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope
I have been stopped, twice, by Border Patrol driving in southern, rural Arizona. We had to show ID, they kinda looked around our SUV and waved us on. I've walked over the border several times and had to show ID and had them look through all my bags. They were doing this when I moved to Arizona 13 years ago. It was just as I moved to Chandler, AZ that it was a big controversy and they said they could no longer "profile" or ask people about their status.

Literally, areas of our cities are lined with illegals waiting for someone to pick them up for day labor. There will be 15 here, 25 there, 12 in this parking lot, 5 in that parking lot...

150 posted on 04/29/2010 12:56:45 AM PDT by riri
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