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Breaking News: Charlie Crist to Run as Independent in Florida Senate Race, Sources Tell Fox News
Fox News ^ | April 28, 2010

Posted on 04/28/2010 9:54:31 AM PDT by Zakeet

The headline is all that's up at the present time.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: crist; fl2010; florida; senate; thirdparty
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To: RockinRight; workerbee
Doesn't seem bad to me at all.

Seems like political Political Doublespeak to me...and that is what Rush has been railing about during the last hour on his show...I think Rush has (had) a lot of faith in Rubio, and he got this sorry a$$ talking out of both sides of his mouth, statement from Rubio....Rush did not sound happy to me on my radio......

51 posted on 04/28/2010 11:00:36 AM PDT by OBXWanderer
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To: lonevoice

no Rubio too is against this AZ bill thus far because he thinks that that the police can stop anyone wgen ever they want and ask for immigration status

let him know he needs to stand for the law it takes 1 min of your time,

isn’t that why wer’re on here to get conservatives elected instead of just posting and moaning

number is
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52 posted on 04/28/2010 11:01:03 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Zakeet

Charlie Crist had promise once, now he’s just another jerk who thinks he should be in the Senate.
Charlie needs to go down on Flames and crawl back under his rock.


53 posted on 04/28/2010 11:01:46 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: RockinRight

rubio stands not for or against this AZ bill because he thinks the police can stop anyone for nothing now

please call him and tell him that is not the case
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54 posted on 04/28/2010 11:02:39 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Falcon28

NarciCrist


55 posted on 04/28/2010 11:03:22 AM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Zakeet

This says a lot of the dipsticks running the NRSC.


56 posted on 04/28/2010 11:03:48 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (I don't look for leaders. I follow my own path, my way.)
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To: Zakeet

Late-uh Tate-uh


57 posted on 04/28/2010 11:03:58 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: RockinRight

no I called him and the wife did and why don’t you

he will not take a stand for or against and think that the police will stop people based on race call him here is the number as I and others who care have

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58 posted on 04/28/2010 11:04:40 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: workerbee

no way
he will not take stand on immigration
he now thinks that he should be against drilling

we have another RINO by Rubio call him and tell him to get a grip

if enough call he might get nervous


59 posted on 04/28/2010 11:06:01 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: rwfromkansas

yes he did but he also said and I defended him until I called him this morning
you call him

he will not take stand on immigration , we have enough illegal immigration lover


60 posted on 04/28/2010 11:07:21 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Dan Nunn

“Good? Remember what happened in NY-23?”

I think you’re wrong. Marco still leads by 7 in a 3 way race

(http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2010/election_2010_senate_elections/florida/election_2010_florida_senate)

and most importantly Jeb Bush, Connie Mack Jr and Sr, and every elected Repub in the State will now go after Crist with a vengeance. Also, this quote from the Ras article:

“Rubio now leads among Republicans and unaffiliated voters with Crist in second. Among Democrats, Meek earns 46% support, while Crist picks up 33% of the Democratic vote.”

The fact is Crist hurts Meek (D) more than Rubio (R).


61 posted on 04/28/2010 11:07:21 AM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: caww
"but, but , but ....he said he wouldn’t do this."

I thought I remembered that.

62 posted on 04/28/2010 11:08:19 AM PDT by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: moose2004

and while Rubio will not take a stand and not many on here are calling he thinks that he might win it but yo watch here in FL support is losing fast for him now

call him
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63 posted on 04/28/2010 11:08:47 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: manc

I don’t see Rubio losing any support, where do you see it?


64 posted on 04/28/2010 11:12:02 AM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: moose2004

right where I am in st augustine FL

since this came out today I have had at least 15 people say if he is against the bill then it is over for them and they will to vote or go for someone else

have you called him and asked him about the AZ bill?


65 posted on 04/28/2010 11:16:43 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: moose2004

right where I am in st augustine FL

since this came out today I have had at least 15 people say if he is against the bill then it is over for them and they will to vote or go for someone else

have you called him and asked him about the AZ bill?


66 posted on 04/28/2010 11:16:43 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: OBXWanderer

I heard Rush. And I understand people seeing Rubio as doing little bit of verbal two-step. But reading his statement, I see him essentially blaming the Feds for not enforcing immigration law and saying AZ had had enough and was forced to take matters into their own hands. I think it’s possible people who believe that, can honestly foresee some “unintended consequences” of this law. I don’t think that makes someone a RINO or “anti-American” or pro-amnesty. I think we can have honest differences of opinion on that point while still agreeing something had to be done. I guess Rubio could be accused of politicaleze, but not to the extent that he’d lose my vote were I a Floridian.


67 posted on 04/28/2010 11:17:55 AM PDT by workerbee (Yes, I hate Obama because of his color: RED!)
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To: manc

I don’t think Rubio has lost any support, in fact if Crist does bolt then I believe Rubio’s numbers will go up.


68 posted on 04/28/2010 11:22:39 AM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: Zakeet

Ugh...Crist sees he cannot win so decides to help the Democrat bid?!


69 posted on 04/28/2010 11:30:32 AM PDT by Teflonic
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To: moose2004

well he has here just today

Rubio could not take stand and actually said he is troubled by AZ bill
when I called him and others have his staff has been saying that they have a problem with the bill because they think police can stop anyone when ever they want so why not give them a call then and let them know that the bill does not let the cops do this

If this is the sign of things to come for a vote from my state then forget it.
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You call him and let me know if he has changed his mind on now drilling he has a problem and now immigration

I was like you this morning until I called and went to the source

many here are finding out more and more about Rubio and it is not looking good unless he takes a stand comes out with more of a conservative stance


70 posted on 04/28/2010 11:35:59 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: moose2004; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Liz
The fact is Crist hurts Meek (D) more than Rubio (R).

That may not matter if Crist is elected senator and votes with the leftists 90% of the time (not to mention that embittered RINOS defect to the D party).

How could that happen, you ask? If Rubio gets less than 50% of the vote in a 3 way race, and Crist comes in 2nd, in the runoff Crist will get the Dem votes plus "moderate R" votes. If Crist does come in 2nd in the 3 way, pray that there are enough Tea Partiers voting against Crist.

But at least we don't have to worry about Dems voting in the R primary now.

71 posted on 04/28/2010 11:45:32 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: Rebelbase

BINGO!

Well he does have man love for Soetoro...so I’m sure the bribe was sweet!


72 posted on 04/28/2010 11:46:07 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Paul Ryan/Greg Abbott in 2012.)
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To: manc

I like Rubio, I’ve donated to him and I look forward to donating more in the future. He is a conservative.


73 posted on 04/28/2010 11:52:30 AM PDT by moose2004 (Stand up, speak out and stop Obamacare and GE)
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To: caww
Crist communications director Andrea Saul insisted that the only people talking about the "fantasy" of the governor running as an independent are the Rubio forces who "realize that as the truth comes out about Rubio's use of public office for private gain, he has as much chance of winning as Charlie Crist spending more than $20 bucks on a haircut."
74 posted on 04/28/2010 11:55:56 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: KansasGirl

“Is he just trying to help the Rat win?”

Yes.


75 posted on 04/28/2010 11:57:00 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their federal funding!)
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To: KansasGirl
What a jerk. He won’t win.

Is he just trying to help the Rat win?

He will get himself a nice ambassadorship from his buddy zer0, for Ross Perot-ing the election to the Dhimmicrat.

76 posted on 04/28/2010 11:58:16 AM PDT by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

I believe Florida is a plurality of the votes, not majority...this POS could split enough votes off Rubio to win it for the dems outright.

He is a lying two faced RINO and deserves to be cast to the street for this one. Frankly if Rubio does not win, I hope Meeks takes it just to shove it up his backside.


77 posted on 04/28/2010 12:00:17 PM PDT by Mouton
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To: yoe

Tan man Crissy needs to look up the word HUBRIS.

He is running to save Obama too.


78 posted on 04/28/2010 12:00:19 PM PDT by eleni121 (For Jesus did not give us a timid spirit , but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
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To: Zakeet

Charlie Crist is a GAY CLOSET QUEEN Who is nothing more than a Whore llooking for whatever “SHE” can get for “HERSELF!” “SHE” cares Nothing for Florida or AMERICA!


79 posted on 04/28/2010 12:04:45 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: GoCards

“Rubio with his Arizona stance might just have lost this election. I am upset with all the knee jerk reactions with this law ARIZONA passed. Do these folks even know WHY they passed such a law and did they even READ the bill before spouting off.”


Did you even READ what Marco Rubio said (all of it, not just the one snippet that liberals want you to read) before spouting off against him? He said that, *based on the media reports he had read about the law*, he was concerned about some aspects of it (and who wouldn’t, based on what the media was saying), but he then proceeded to explain how we needed to secure the border. Rubio does *not* support amnesty, and any conservative who refuses to support Rubio over what he said (which, I will be the first to admit, was a foolish statement because he should have known better than to trust media accounts of the AZ law) deserves to have his head examined.

I’m sure that liberal traitor Charlie Crist would love for conservatives to turn their backs on Rubio and allow him (or Democrat Kendrick Meek) to win, but fortunately we have 6 months until the election and I’m sure that every conservative will be firmly in Rubio’s corner.


80 posted on 04/28/2010 12:05:08 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Tolsti2
Sure, it will split the vote and the Dems. will win. I am sure he is being paid well. Look for this to happen in other places until it backfires on them.
81 posted on 04/28/2010 12:05:24 PM PDT by Faith-Hope
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To: yoe

Wonderful point, but can the people of FL understand the difference?


82 posted on 04/28/2010 12:09:12 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Mouton; moose2004; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Liz
I believe Florida is a plurality of the votes, not majority...

Mouton, you are right, no runoff in the general election. I apologize for my post based on faulty info.

That makes me feel a little better. I think Rubio will come out ahead of Crist, but the big question is whether Crist will get enough R votes to beat Rubio. I don't think Tea Partiers will go for Crist unless some horrible Rubio scandal materializes.

83 posted on 04/28/2010 12:10:51 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: o2bfree

“Doesn’t matter too much. Who really cares about Rubio anymore? He’s targeting the moderates, since he’s not really a true conservative.

Rubio = Moderate
Christ = Rino”


First of all, the Lord Jesus Christ is no RINO. The ex-RINO’s name is spelled “Crist.”

Second, Marco Rubio is a solid conservative. If you have one widdle issue about which Marco doesn’t say exactly what you want him to say (even if his position is right on the money) and you don’t want to support him, go ahead and let Crist or Meek win and see if you like a Senator with a 5% ACU score better than one with a 99% ACU score, but don’t lie by calling Rubio a “moderate.” If Marco Rubio is a “moderate,” then so is Jim DeMint.


84 posted on 04/28/2010 12:10:55 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

There is no general election runoff in FL, only in GA.


85 posted on 04/28/2010 12:11:20 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: moose2004

good for you but he’s proving not to be a conservative at all

have you even called him like I said ?
I did this morning and I was like you blind and feeling good until this bill come up and now drilling.

I might still vote for him if he actually takes a stance.

are you actually in Florida or are you out of state?


86 posted on 04/28/2010 12:13:28 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: manc

“Rubio could not take stand and actually said he is troubled by AZ bill
when I called him and others have his staff has been saying that they have a problem with the bill because they think police can stop anyone when ever they want so why not give them a call then and let them know that the bill does not let the cops do this”


Exactly, Rubio and his staff misunderstand what the AZ law does (because they had only read media accounts of it), which is why Rubio said that he was troubled by certain aspects of it. That does not mean that he isn’t opposed to amnesty or isn’t in favor of securing the border. Rubio is solid on immigration; he is merely misinformed on the AZ law.


87 posted on 04/28/2010 12:14:09 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Theodore R.

Thanks, I apologized for my inaccuracy in #83.


88 posted on 04/28/2010 12:14:22 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: Mouton

“I believe Florida is a plurality of the votes, not majority...”


Currently, I believe that only GA requires a majority of votes to win a Senate election (with a run-off if no one gets 50%).

Yes, in theory, Crist or Meek could win with 34%, but Rubio will get over 40% (probably over 45%) and will win handily.


89 posted on 04/28/2010 12:16:48 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Faith-Hope

We might see the Lieberman result when Republicans voted for him. Democrats might vote for him rather than Meeks.


90 posted on 04/28/2010 12:17:56 PM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I agree and when I told them wha the law actually says they kept refering back to the police stopping people

I think that it is why we need as many as possible to call his office and set their staff right as of right now they still think that the police can profile .
I’m an immigrant I told them and when you have a green card the federal law states I have to carry it everywhere I go so the media does not know this law either and if bozo has a problem with that then he needs to change federal law not AZ’s bill


91 posted on 04/28/2010 12:19:53 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Zakeet
Almost all politicians are whores but Crist is a crack whore.
92 posted on 04/28/2010 12:22:05 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: yoe

“Charlie Crist is not running to serve the people, he is running to serve himself!”

Everything he does is for himself. Over the last several years as he’s worked his way up its been very obvious. Get elected to a position and immediately work on the next higher one. Detestable


93 posted on 04/28/2010 12:23:33 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

The problem here is regardless of whether the Tea Party lines up behind Rubio, Meeks could slip in with Rubio finishing second as some of the GOP here alas are RINO’s. Furthermore, Crist will use the election to run against Rubio mostly and he has a lot of out of state RINO money behind him. Maybe I am paranoid about this but it could end up being a real disaster for Florida and for the Country should Meeks or Crist win.

The best thing that could happen would be if Crist was able to pull enough of the public sector votes i.e. teachers away from the dems as he just vetoed a teaching reform bill that was opposed by their union right down the line. This election will go to the wire with whomever catches the final tail wind ending up on top.


94 posted on 04/28/2010 12:23:49 PM PDT by Mouton
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To: workerbee

What wrong with Rubio’s statement? Who else is there to vote for?


95 posted on 04/28/2010 12:25:17 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: manc

Do you think that by continuing to lie about Marco Rubio’s stance on offshore oil drilling you will convince anyone that Rubio isn’t a conservative. Rubio has been on the record for YEARS that we should DRILL HERE, DRILL NOW.

It was CHARLIE CRIST who said yesterday that we should reconsider the wisdom of offshore oil drilling because of some oil spill. http://www.postonpolitics.com/2010/04/crist-says-oil-spill-should-give-drilling-proponents-pause/ You do know that Charlie Crist and Marco Rubio are different people, right?

Maybe you shouldn’t be posting in a public forum until you can tell Crist from Rubio. Here’s a clue for you: Crist is the one whose issue positions are exactly like the ones that you falsely claim that Marco Rubio has. Crist is also the one with orange skin. And a beard . . . .


96 posted on 04/28/2010 12:25:21 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Dan Nunn

“Good? Remember what happened in NY-23?”

We have more time and more money in this one. Chris Christie and Scott Brown had some 3rd party gnats that turned out to be nothing. Being an 0bama toadie with the stimulus and his most recent chameleon stunt won’t play well this year.
The voters will crucify Crist for this contemptible behavior.


97 posted on 04/28/2010 12:27:29 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: Zakeet

Well this race just got interesting more than it was already. First Rubio turns out not to be what he claimed...a conservative. He is against Arizona Immigration Law and now Christ is heading towards an Independent Run. I think he believes just because Connecticut chose an Independent, Florida will too...Stay tuned for the next interesting scenario.


98 posted on 04/28/2010 12:31:18 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: manc

“I think that it is why we need as many as possible to call his office and set their staff right as of right now they still think that the police can profile.”


I agree 100% with you on that. And if Marco Rubio, after having time to understand how the law will actually operate, says that cops should not be allowed to ask for proof of legal residence from people they stop for moving violations, then you would have a very good point and Rubio would prove to be far weaker on immigration than his decade-long public record has shown. But, in the meantime, it is way, way too early to be calling him “weak on immigration” or anything of the sort.

I can understand your frustration with people’s ignorance of immigration laws, and you should definitely set people straight about the documentation requirements imposed upon legal immigrants. I hope that, at the very least, the media and the population at large get a free civics lesson from the brouhaha over the very commonsensical AZ law.


99 posted on 04/28/2010 12:31:39 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: yoe
Charlie Crist is not running to serve the people, he is running to serve himself!

So what else is new?

Not!

100 posted on 04/28/2010 12:43:00 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Prezdet Obama is what you get when you let the O.J. jury select a president !)
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