Skip to comments.Hawaii governor announces 'exact' place of Obama birth
Posted on 05/05/2010 10:41:27 PM PDT by STARWISE
'The question has been asked and answered, and I think we should all move on now'
..... the governor of Hawaii is now publicly voicing the alleged exact location of Obama's birth, saying "the president was, in fact, born at Kapi'olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii"
The disclosure is believed to be the first time a state government official has declared the precise place where Obama was born, despite numerous other published claims, including some for a different hospital in Honolulu.
The remark came Sunday night when Gov. Linda Lingle, a Republican, was interviewed on New York's WABC Radio by host Rabbi Shmuley Boteach. (The subject was addressed at the 77-minute mark HERE.)
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Baby’s race isn’t listed, just parents.
This is dangerously incorrect.
Not following ya here. Are you suggesting that all the relevant people involved in this issue (i.e. Barry, Gov. Lingle, Pelosi, etc) ARE being lawful and truthful?
There’s an image of the Nordyke announcement from the Advertiser posted various places; if you Google it you can find it.
I have images of the Star-Bulletin well before and beyond the Aug 16th date for the Advertiser’s Nordyke announcement. I’ve actually typed in all the names and cross-checked them all. Nordykes are not anywhere in the S-B.
Births are announced in one paper as far as 3 weeks apart from when they were announced in the other paper, and a substantial number were only announced in one of the papers. As Fred Nerks has pointed out, the number of births announced come nowhere near the total number of births the HDOH told the CDC they had records for in Aug 1961.
My conclusion: There is no way those announcements came from the state registrar’s office.
I actually have a UIPA request to the HDOH that they are required to answer by the end of the day today, asking for the documents they relied on to tell Lori Starfelt that they sent birth announcements to the newspapers in 1961. They probably won’t respond; they’re not even pretending to obey the rules at this point. And I already have the legal documents showing that they didn’t start that practice until 1976. At this point all they can say is that no records exist (acknowledging that they didn’t send lists to the papers) or that they didn’t tell Starfelt that - which opens up a whole ‘nother can of worms.
I’ve got a ton of information that I could post on - and intend to post on - but there’s some information that the HDOH refuses to disclose which would prove their active participation in falsifying records on Obama’s behalf. So far they’ve claimed that records required to be permanent no longer exist, in order to not have to disclose them. I’d really like to have those records first, before disclosing what I already have.
We are not dealing with honest players at all in the Hawaii government. They are part of perpetrating this big hoax.
Jay: Man, we ain't got time for this cover-up bullshit! I don't know whether or not you've forgotten, but there's an Arquillian Battle Cruiser that's about to...
Kay: There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet, and the only way these people can get on with their happy lives is that they Do... Not... Know about it!
This will do nothing to prevent thread hijacks by birthers.
I don't care where he was born but I do want to see the real BC to verify who was named as papa. He and everyone else claims it's Obama Sr. and if that's true, then Jr. needs to be shown the door. But then you knew that already but are trying to start something.
I cannot get over his granny, the keeper of the family secrets,..dying the day before the elections. I mean...how coincidental is that ??
Is there a newspaper account of the fire? When did it happen?
Was an electronic record of the B.C. made before the fire? What is the date of the electronic record?
How convenient that his paper B.C. was destroyed. Why is this the first time that I'm hearing about it?
He obviously wasn't the valedictorian or salutatorian or suma cum anything or an honor student or in the National Honor society or even on the B honor roll because that would have made headlines. I suppose we could ask the dudes from his choom gang but I doubt they'd remember. Your kid should ask what choom is.
I wouldn’t underplay the interest your book would have. There are already a lot of people trying capitalize on the Obama eligibility issue in different ways. I’m pretty sure there’s a market.
BTW, if your son needs a tip on global warming, have him look at this studay, “Timing of Atmospheric CO2 and Antarctic Temperature Changes Across Termination III.” In this project, they measured CO2 in ice bubbles in the Antarctic and found out that CO2 levels lagged behind changes in temperature levels by 600 to 800 years. They tried to play this off by saying temperature cycles last about 5,000 years, so that the rest of the time, CO2 is still in phase with temperature increases, and would still be consistent as being a forcing factor. That’s pretty misleading because it fails to note the the lag is at the beginning of a temperature increase and at a decrease. In other words, lags occur at least 600 years at the beginning and another 600 years at the end of a full cycle ... which would be 1,200 out of 5,000 years ... that’s 40 percent of the cycle. The correlation period is only 60 percent of the cycle which would better suggests that temperature increases force the increase in CO2 levels, not the other way around. When temperatures go up, CO2 starts rising 600 years later. When it goes down, C02 starts falling 600 years later. In modern times, we’ve seen less than 150 years worth of data and nothing in significant levels to prove any verifiable deviation from what occurs naturally.
Here’s a link to the study.
Check your freepmail.
Sometime in the past year or two , Rusty Humphries interviewed Lingle on his radio show.
On a later show during a discussion of the sealed birth certificate , he recounted what Lingle told him during a commercial break.
He casually asked Lingle if she had ever seen the birth certificate.
She emphatically said No and indicated that she wanted no part of the situation.
Has Lingle been snooping ?
If he was born in an HI hospital and his parents are Ann and Sr., then there is nothing on it that should be cause for concern... except the single or twin birth boxes.
Exactly - they are ALL criminals of the worst kind. I cannot get over the moronic idiots who sound like pre-programmed robots spouting - “it makes no difference who his parents were or where he was born in relation to his NBC status”!! Simply kool-aiders. It makes ALL the difference and just the fact that there is an absolute refusal to release ANY information about this man’s past IS the information. He’s illegal to hold the office of President. No doubt many people are being bribed and threatened by real THUGS. Disgusting situation. CO
Obama fully understands the definition per the SR 511.
I was talking to my husband about this earlier today. I think the thought may be that if it’s inevitable we’re going to be squeezed to death by a giant boa it would be better to not know about it until it happens.
But if a person closes their eyes and whistles in the dark when they could actually get out of the boa’s coils, their own failure to be diligent is what will kill them. It’s only inevitable BECAUSE you refused to understand the situation until it was too late.
Communism is a boa that has been encircling us for a long time. Until now I had no idea how tightly the coils are squeezing in on us. I will be completely honest and say that I don’t know if we can survive this mess. If we can’t reclaim the rule of law this nation is over.
If the whole issue was Obama itself it could be a Vince Foster type of deal, where we know the president is a crook and got away with it, but the country can still survive. There will always be crooks in power... blah blah blah.
But this particular situation involves someone who is taking over the banks, the auto industry, the internet, the media, healthcare, and student loans..... so far. He’s done this with the whole world watching because there isn’t a court in the nation who says it’s any of our business. He was put into position because nobody at any level of law enforcement would even check out proof of crimes committed. And bureaucrats are sitting in office laughing at people who know full well that the laws are being broken on a daily basis, in the most basic functions of their offices, but can’t do a darn thing to MAKE THEM OBEY THE RULE OF LAW.
And we have turmoil in the entire country - with states pitted against each other in boycotts, etc - because one of the states wants to require their law enforcement personnel to actually enforce the law. They’ll never get to actually do it because it will be held up in court cases forever.
I will fight with every ounce of my being, but unless people wake up in a huge way and cut off the head of this boa, this nation cannot survive. The issue is lawlessness. Folks like Glenn Beck are beginning to realize that, but they still laugh at people concerned about the lawlessness of government, media, and law enforcement regarding Obama’s eligibility. They just don’t get it.
It’s all part and parcel of the same thing. Obama could only take over healthcare because Fukino hid the DOH administrative rules and refused to report a known forgery to law enforcement. The lawlessness has cursed this nation from the beginning of this process right down to where we are today. You can’t laugh at one part of the cancerous tumor even if you think you’re doing great work to cut off the other parts of the tumor. You have to get it all. If you think otherwise, you totally fail to understand the nature of cancerous cells.
Because there is a long line of legal reasoning that says "natural born" means born in the USA, regardless of parentage.
"It is an established maxim that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth however derives its force sometimes from place and sometimes from parentage, but in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States; it will therefore be unnecessary to investigate any other.
James Madison, The Founders Constitution Volume 2, Article 1, Section 2, Clause 2, Document 6 (1789)
Where in there does it state a "Natural Born Citizen" of the United States can also be born a British subject?
Isnt that the way though? The argument of the certificate numbers of the Nordyke twins being before Oblah-blahs even though Barry was assumed to be born before the twins, is because the IN box would have the births stacked upon each other and the act of assigning numbers to the births would have no bearing on what time the birth actually happened.
Yet, we are to believe the Nordyke TWINS, did not get a mention in the newspaper until the following weeks because they were born afterwards.
Show me the damn certificate you lying bunch of Obots!
They are under a spell, all of them.
That person is not eligible to become president as he/she can not prove NBC eligibility.
Haven't seen it since I posted this back on 4/21. Not claiming credit, but...
Beck and O' Reilly are so far off base when they say something moronic like, “Yeah, sure ... and his parents placed the ads in the newspapers so that one day their son could run for president.”
Of course that's stupid. That's not how it unfolded and being the POTUS certainly wasn't the motive in 1961.
The motive was likely Welfare and other government support
I think he is one of perhaps a thousand or so agents born, bred, and trained to work their ways into positions of power to damage and ultimately cause the downfall of the United States.
Our enemies are patient, well funded, and have deep seated fanatical hatred of freedom and liberty.
The old Soviet Union, Communist China, and Our Dear Friends, the Saudis have had every reason to work towards the end of American power.
With the full resources of a determined nation-state, and/or unlimited petrodollars, and recognizing that no one has the ability to defeat the US in a head-to-head battle, they had the ability and the motivation to try something more subtle.
For such it would be a trivial exercise to train thousands or even tens of thousands of agents to work their ways into various positions of power to sap our strength.
They studied us for decades, found our weaknesses (exploitable Constitutional protections of freedom of speech, separation of church and state, sensitivity to calls of racism, fundamental sense of fair play, etc.) and devised methods to exploit each one.
What's the cost of inculcating hate and radicalism into a pliable young mind? How does that compare to the cost of a single B-2 bomber? How many B-2's do we have? More importantly, how many agents do they have? What levers of power are they holding? How many of "our" professors, law clerks, judges, politicians, soldiers, reporters, rabble rousers, preachers, or? are working in their own little ways to weaken us?
It would be silly to think that Obama was selected from birth to be anything so grandiose as an American president. He was just a disaffected child abandoned by his parents, raised by his communist grandparents, and steeped in the fundamentals of Islam who was groomed to harm America in his own little ways.
Did anyone imagine in their wildest hopes and expectations, that a mere community organizer would manage to get the ultimate lever of power? Nope. He succeeded beyond their wildest hopes and expectations (perhaps they believe it was as allah wills?) .
Small wonder they are scrambling so hard to hide every detail of his life! He was never expected to get this kind of scrutiny, he was supposed to be a cypher, not a superstar! That we are putting his life under a microscope risks blowing their whole operation.
We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Never been more true than now.
Or the hospital in Mombasa Kenya that CLAIMS he was born there? Did you ever hear that tape from the Kenyan Parliament the day after, I think, of his inauguration? Very clear indeed. It was stated that it was in order to shut down the Parliament to honor the fact that a Kenyan could be elected President of the United States. This is A SHAM and ALWAYS HAS BEEN ONE AND STILL IS. He needs to be turfed out on his lying Ass. CO
That would not be a disqualification if his father was born a citizen of US under statute law, or went through the naturalization process. His father was never a citizen, so he cannot be a natural born citizen, even if he was born on the beach at the North Shore.
It states that in the United States, it is birth place that applies to citizenship:
“...but in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States; it will therefore be unnecessary to investigate any other.
No, he was not.
Neither was Dr. Rosenpenis. (certified Fletch geek!)
The donor wouldn’t be anonymous to everyone. They get paid for submitting the sperm so some medical entity knows who they are. CO
How stupid does she have to be, or think the People are, to say that a written news release said something that it did not say?
Everything electronic is now Permanent. Republican or not, she's a liar for the Big Liar in Chief in the White House.
Interesting comments from Berg’s time, who apparently
isn’t strictly focused on the BC
November 17, 2009 at 9:16 AM
Thank you for your comments. First, just to clarify, as a Law Firm, Mr. Berg cannot and will not ask the outside public to attend hearings, he could be sanctioned or disbarred for this type of behavior. The Courts interpret this to mean that the Attorney is attempting to incite or influence the Court. However, Court hearings are public record and people are entitled to attend any type of hearing they choose.
Actually, we believe Soetoro/Obama is still an Indonesian citizen.
November 26, 2009 at 10:52 AM
I agree that Soetoro/Obama is not doing well for our Country. But, our focus is on the fact he is not constitutionally eligible and is illegally maintaining the office of the United States Presidency.
If in fact he is Muslim, which is not our focus, and how the Muslims treat each other is not our concern.
We do not wish any harm upon anyone.
Again, this is strictly a legal question regarding Soetoro/Obamas citizenship status and his constitutional eligibility or lack thereof and making sure our Constitution is upheld.
No. She’s just parroting what her appointee is saying/lying.
Lingle - bought and sold, threatened, told what to say, who knows.
Thanks for the post reflecting our thoughts here at the ranch butterdezillion, and thanks for the ping LucyT.
“.....All of them. Every f-ing one.”
Well before 2001. In fact looking at one of those produced from the fiche, you can see it was produced in 1966, probably for entry into Kindergarten.
It may not be much money at all. There's always blackmail. Its just like the good little church ladies who visit prisoners. First, the prisoner asks to borrow a pen to write his dying mama. Next, he'll ask for something else. The stakes get higher until the good little church lady balks at a request. Nope, sorry lil' lady, but you've already committed countless crimes, the first being the pen and how embarrassing it would be to have the congregation know. The prisoner then knows he can get anything from her through blackmail. Slam dunk.
Isnt astonishing that all the press releases would omit that pertinent information that could resolve the myriad of ways one could get one of those butt wipe Hawaii Certification of Live Birth documents.
Gee, why oh why would the governor and Ms. Fukino leave out this vital information from ANY press release they made?
That damn My space page has bothered me since the beginning as well.
Yes. He already lied on his Illinois bar stating he had never used any other name but Obama.
The problem really isn’t with the date of birth being before the Nordykes; the problem is with the “date filed” being before the Nordykes’.
Okubo said that all Oahu birth certificates have always been received by the state registrar’s office and given a number by the state registrar on the same day - the “date filed”. Obama’s Factcheck COLB says it was given a number 3 days before the Nordykes’ were - and yet has a certificate number 2 later than theirs.
There’s no way that piles of BC’s or pre-numbered BC’s at the hospital could explain this, given what Okubo has stated.
I’ve got information and documentation about this and more at http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/
Another problem with what’s on the Factcheck COLB is the “date filed” being different from the Nordykes’ in the first place. Kapiolani delivered their BC’s to the state registrar’s office on Friday. Obama was born on Friday evening after office hours and Nordykes were born on Saturday. All 3 certificates should have been delivered to the HDOH on the same day - the following Friday, Aug 11th, as the Nordyke BC’s say. If Obama was born at Kapiolani his BC would have been delivered on that date. When they forged the Factcheck COLB they screwed up in several ways.
Good point. As a Republican Governor, she sure hasn't spearheaded the "Charge" on this. . .
#267 - GREAT POST. So very true. This is what you have right now - utter lawlessness. Chaos will take place yet. CO
Trouble is that for most of the US population they ARE stupid enough to let something like that go. They wouldn’t even check. The non-vigilance of the voting public is a national security risk graver than anything else we face as a nation. That’s why the communists swore to take over the schools and the media. I’d say they’ve succeeded.
Absolutely. Wickedness in high places. It’s right out there for all to see for those who choose to “see”. But let Obama keep poking Isreal in the eye because with each poke he is poking God in the eye. When God pokes back, all Hell will be upon Obama and unfortunately the country. This is without a doubt the most dangerous thing Obama is doing. Not that he isn’t doing a lot of other dangerous things against America too. HE and his cabal are looking like terminal cancer to me. CO
Maybe, but maybe not as well. It was not every day, in 1961, that a very white girl named Stanley had a negro baby. It just wasn't done.
If it was okay to open Jack Ryans divorce records for the good of the people then this is a no brainer.
As he’s been able to do, being spawned by the Chicago
thug/union machine, the Machine got the Chicago Tribune to go to bat for him on that.
Republican U.S. Senate nominee Jack Ryan’s ex-wife, TV actress Jeri Ryan, accused him of taking her to sex clubs in New York and Paris, where he tried to coerce her into having sex with him in front of strangers, according to records released Monday from the couple’s California divorce file.
Jack Ryan denied the allegations when they were made in 2000, when the couple was engaged in a bitter child custody battle a year after their divorce.
The papers were released by California Judge Robert Schnider following his decision last week to unseal portions of the Ryans’ divorce file.
Attorneys for the Tribune and WLS-Ch. 7 sought release of the records, but the Ryans had fought disclosure because they said it could harm their son. The Ryans decided not to appeal Schnider’s ruling.
Can you imagine? They have a 7 yr old son they’re
trying to shield from their legal entertainment
forays, and there’s a judge with no character,
totally going opposite to their usual mantra for
this type of case:
“in the best interests of the children”
because these thugs .. including govt officials and
the judicial sector in IL ... only care about one
Apparently, they think they’ve created a foolproof cover.
Just another of the typical corrupt judges infecting America. But it does seem that there are more of this scum in the ‘blue states’. Does that indicate that liberals like being usurped by the judicial scum? Um, yeah. They also like to be lied to and enjoy federal oligarchical serfdom.
At one point I told Okubo that it would be very good for her to cooperate with law enforcement before it went any further.
I initially thought that Okubo and Co. were just trying to do their jobs and were blackmailed. I’m not so sure any more. The evidence I’ve got suggests that somebody there may have been doing an inside job from the very beginning. We’ll see if that pans out. I can tell you for sure that they and the OIP are circling the wagons at this point.