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70% in Massachusetts Favor Ban on Public Benefits For Illegal Immigrants
Rasmussen Reports ^ | May 12, 2010 | Scott Rasmussen

Posted on 05/12/2010 7:17:04 AM PDT by iowamark

Seventy percent (70%) of Massachusetts voters favor a proposal recently rejected by the state legislature that would stop illegal immigrants from receiving public benefits.

A new Rasmussen Reports telephone survey shows that just 17% oppose the proposal to prevent illegal immigrants from gaining access to public housing, unemployment benefits, welfare or workers compensation. Thirteen percent (13%) more are not sure.

The proposal failed to pass in the Democratically-controlled State House last month by a 75 to 82 vote.

Fifty percent (50%) of voters in Massachusetts oppose a boycott of Arizona like the one just passed by Boston City Council to protest that state’s new law cracking down on illegal immigration. Thirty-four percent (34%) favor such a boycott, while another 16% are undecided.

But just 41% favor a law like Arizona’s that empowers local police to stop anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant. Forty-eight percent (48%) oppose such a law. Eleven percent (11%) are not sure.

Nationally, 58% support a law like the one recently adopted in Arizona.

The survey of 500 Likely Voters in Massachusetts was conducted on May 10, 2010 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 4.5 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.

Sixty-seven percent (67%) of Bay State voters are at least somewhat concerned that a law like Arizona’s might violate the civil rights of some U.S. citizens while 30% don’t share that concern. Those figures include 40% who are Very Concerned and 11% who are Not At All Concerned.

Fifty-eight percent (58%) favor a welcoming immigration policy that only excludes “national security threats, criminals and those who would come here to live off our welfare system.” Just 23% disagree with such a policy. This is comparable to findings among voters nationwide.

Governor Deval Patrick yesterday criticized the public benefits proposal and denounced the Arizona bill, saying he would veto a similar law if passed by the state legislature. However, he also said the state would not follow Boston’s example and divest state funds from Arizona as a protest.

His two chief opponents for governor, Republican Charlie Banker and Democrat-turned-independent Tim Cahill, both favor the legislation barring illegal immigrants from public benefits. Cahill has defended the Arizona law; Baker has not commented in detail on it.

Patrick now earns 45% of the vote in his bid for reelection to Baker’s 31% and Cahill’s 14%.

Republicans and voters not affiliated with either party overwhelmingly support the proposal that would stop illegal immigrants from getting public benefits, as do 53% of Democrats.

But 52% of Democratic voters favor a boycott of Arizona, while 74% of Republicans and 66% of unaffiliateds oppose it.

When it comes to having a law like Arizona’s, however, 64% of GOP voters are in favor of it, but 68%of Democrats are opposed. Among unaffiliated voters in Massachusetts, 46% favor such a law, while 39% oppose it.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizona; illegals; immigrationpoll; massachusetts

1 posted on 05/12/2010 7:17:05 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark

Why not ban illegal aliens instead?


2 posted on 05/12/2010 7:18:18 AM PDT by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: iowamark

ROFLMBO

Good luck with that...


3 posted on 05/12/2010 7:18:28 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: iowamark

Our Prop. 187


4 posted on 05/12/2010 7:18:31 AM PDT by edcoil (RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE.)
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To: edcoil

TN passed two of those about 2006...

TN Gov Bredesen vetoed both of them


5 posted on 05/12/2010 7:20:17 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: iowamark

No issue here. There should be a Five or Ten year ban. They want to come to the USA then they should be able to support themselves.


6 posted on 05/12/2010 7:22:15 AM PDT by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world.)
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To: iowamark

It used to be required that new legal immigrants were banned from participating in any welfare subsidies as a condition of immigration. What happened that now we have a debatable question concerning illegals receiving benefits? This “new world order” is flat out unsustainable. I guess you have to go to Harvard and Yale to understand how it all will work?


7 posted on 05/12/2010 7:22:45 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: Tennessee Nana

If someone comes here to “work” when then do they need all the free stuff.


8 posted on 05/12/2010 7:22:52 AM PDT by edcoil (RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE.)
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To: edcoil

That’s racist...


9 posted on 05/12/2010 7:24:03 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: iowamark
But just 41% favor a law like Arizona’s that empowers local police to stop anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant. Forty-eight percent (48%) oppose such a law. Eleven percent (11%) are not sure.

I like Rasmussen, but he mistates the AZ law. The police cannot stop anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant. That is an outright lie.

10 posted on 05/12/2010 7:25:17 AM PDT by kabar
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To: All

ONLY 70%? wow, it should be 100%


11 posted on 05/12/2010 7:25:31 AM PDT by VAFreedom
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To: iowamark
Republican Charlie Banker...

What the? Practical jokester here?

12 posted on 05/12/2010 7:26:17 AM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the world safe for Marxism)
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To: iowamark
Protestant Churches gearing up to push amnesty.

The group, which includes influential political activists such as Richard Land, head of the Southern Baptist Convention’s public policy wing, and Mathew Staver, dean of the Liberty University School of Law, will soon begin lobbying Republican leaders in Washington to support comprehensive immigration reform under President Obama…

“After securing our borders, we must allow the millions of undocumented and otherwise law-abiding persons living in our midst to come out of the shadows,” reads a recent draft of the document, which is still being finalized. “The pathway for earned legal citizenship or temporary residency should involve a program of legalization for undocumented persons in the United States…”

Many evangelicals say their push for immigration reform is biblically based, citing passages urging respect for civil laws and concern for migrants and the vulnerable.

“Discussion of immigration and government immigration policy must begin with the truth that every human being is made in the image of God,” the National Association of Evangelicals said in a recent resolution backing comprehensive immigration reform. “… Jesus exemplifies respect toward others who are different in his treatment of the Samaritans.”
13 posted on 05/12/2010 7:27:07 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: All
RIDING THE US GRAVY TRAIN---THE SAGA OF PEDRO Nobody sucks up federal dollars like invaders from the Third World. An illegal alien w/ wife and five children violates our borders. He gets a job mowing loans for $5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that low wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, so each year, he files an Income Tax Return to get "EITC---earned income credit" of up to $3,200 scot-free.

He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent. He qualifies for food stamps and no deductible, no co-pay free health care. His children get free school breakfasts and lunches. The kids qualify for monthly SSI checks by faking ADD; the illegal and his wife get SSI bu faking being aged, blind or disabled; SSI qualifies them for Medicare.

Plus illegals don't have to worry about pricey items like car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance, and they qualify for relief from high energy bills.

ALL OF THAT IS COLLECTED WITH JUST ONE IDENTITY Evidence shows illegals establish several identities with phony SS nos and fake documents (which these "poor immigrants" buy from document brokers for several thousand dollars). All those phony identities vote, too.

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2 Texans accused of planning to sell counterfeit IDs

NORTH BERGEN -- (AP) 07/21/06---The Pelcastre brothers were a walking threat to national security -- expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, authorities said Thursday. When police stumbled across the pair, the men had turned a Tonnelle Avenue hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local identity broker, authorities said.

The brothers, Angel, 31, and Jorge, 34, both of Dallas, were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of government documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses for any state in the country , including passports and resident alien cards, said state police Capt. Al Della Fave. "Can you imagine if a terrorist were able to get their hands on this stuff?" Della Fave said. "They'd have free passage throughout the country."

A task force including state troopers and officers from both the Bergen and Hudson county prosecutors' offices happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in the parking lot of the hotel Wednesday morning. Authorities wouldn't identify the hotel by name for fear it could hinder cooperation from other hotels in future investigations or spark retribution.

The Corporate Outreach Task Force, formerly the Hotel Motel Drug Interdiction Task Force, regularly runs checks on motor vehicles in area motels. Members of the task force began watching the cars, a Chevrolet Impala and a Pontiac Firebird, and followed the brothers to an office supply store in a nearby shopping center, where the men purchased computer supplies, said state police Sgt. Stephen Jones.

Officers then followed the brothers to a self-storage facility in Secaucus, where they loaded several boxes from a storage unit into one of the cars, Jones said. One of the men stood lookout, which heightened police suspicion, he said. Authorities approached the men when they returned to the hotel and questioned them separately, Jones said. The brothers consented to a search of their cars, hotel room and the storage facility, he said.

Police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs, Jones said.

All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street, Della Fave said. Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a fake document broker for a shipment of 500 Social Security cards, Della Fave said.

"They were aggressively selling to brokers," he said. "This isn't like selling driver's licenses to individuals. These were multiple layers of high-level documents."

The brothers were being held without bail Thursday at the Hudson County Jail on charges of possessing fraudulent documents and conspiracy to sell fraudulent documents. Federal charges are also pending against them, said state police Detective Sgt. Cesar Huaman, a member of the task force.

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The illegal gravy train increases OUR costs---state and federal taxes, homeowners and auto insurance, utilities and healthcare. Greedy illegals---violating our borders with their hands out----enjoy a perpetual free ride on the US gravy train...at OUR expense.

As FReeper raybbr postulated: "the sense of entititlement to tear down our government while enjoying US prosperity, the principles of democracy, our legislative process, and our thriving society is an affront to every real American."

14 posted on 05/12/2010 7:28:59 AM PDT by Liz (If teens can procreate in a Volkswagen, why does a spotted owl need 2000 acres? JD Hayworth)
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To: iowamark

Must be racists!/S


15 posted on 05/12/2010 7:30:24 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: VAFreedom
ONLY 70%? wow, it should be 100%
The other 30% of those polled were probably illegals.
16 posted on 05/12/2010 7:31:51 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: iowamark

The thing I find the most offensive in this whole matter is the UN trying to intervene.

If they do, the UN should be kicked out of the country unceremoniously.

The UN has become nothing more than a recruiting ground for terrorists, degenerates, dictators and other assorted scumbags.


17 posted on 05/12/2010 7:31:57 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: oh8eleven; VAFreedom
"The other 30% of those polled were probably illegals."

Or dead. This is Massachusetts we're talking about.

18 posted on 05/12/2010 7:35:32 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: iowamark
The proposal failed to pass in the Democratically-controlled State House last month by a 75 to 82 vote.

Fire those who opposed this proposal. Get rid of the dead weight, and bring in people who support the taxpayers who pay their wages.
Isn't it time the American taxpayers had a say in all these entitlements? How much longer will the democrats be allowed to waste other peoples hard earned wages? Elect those who will actually listen and understand - it's not their money. If they want something - start a charity instead.
Those who pay Social Security Insurance have the right to their benefits. They weren't asked to pay those premiums - they were forced to pay them. The same applies to their Medicaid. They paid for that too - by force.
Get rid of those programs that aren't contributed to. If a person isn't willing to do something to earn their keep - they should get nothing in return for their keep.
Enough freeloading already.
When it comes to people of other nations, their welfare checks should come from their own countries. If they're here illegally, send them home for their government checks.

19 posted on 05/12/2010 7:43:39 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: iowamark

Why stop there? I favor banning “public benefits” for citizens, too.


20 posted on 05/12/2010 7:45:25 AM PDT by ziravan (Vote your Revolution.)
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To: iowamark
Republicans and voters not affiliated with either party overwhelmingly support the proposal that would stop illegal immigrants from getting public benefits, as do 53% of Democrats.

And if you consider that unenrolled/independents make up just more than half of the voters in Massachusetts, the overall support is probably north of 75%. Yet the Massachusetts legislature failed to pass the law.
21 posted on 05/12/2010 7:51:00 AM PDT by LostInBayport (2010 - The Second American Revolution. The first shot was fired 1/19/2010 -- here in Massachusetts!)
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To: iowamark

Ridiculous! Why MA is a SANCTUARY state where all unwashed, disease ridden, criminal elements are warmly welcomed. Come amigos! Bring forth your scores of illegitimate births, your requests for free driver’s licenses, free hospitalization, free healthcare, free child services, free food stamps, free welfare payments, free unemployment cash, free college educations! Yes come my compadres! MA welcomes your tuberculosis, your STD’s, your mental retardation, your prison records! Come, and we will do the Hat dance to celebrate!


22 posted on 05/12/2010 7:51:48 AM PDT by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: Minus_The_Bear
Many evangelicals say their push for immigration reform is biblically based, citing passages urging respect for civil laws

Our immigration law says they are to be deported.

On the contrary, the criminals should repent and do the right thing. They should go home voluntarily.

(I think we're witnessing the rise of the apostate churches. All they think about today is their collection plates. No wonder church attendance is way down.)

23 posted on 05/12/2010 7:58:04 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: iowamark

Who knew that 70% of Massholes are actually racists! /sarcasm


24 posted on 05/12/2010 8:01:23 AM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: kabar
I like Rasmussen, but he mistates the AZ law. The police cannot stop anyone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant. That is an outright lie.

Which puts a twist into the whole poll. If the law is misstated, then people are only polled on the misstated law, not the law, then the poll results are quoted, further misstating the law while declaring people's opinion of the (misstated) law and not the actual thing.

The distortions just keep on coming.

I honestly believe the goal is to confuse or mislead the people as to just what the law says in the first place.

25 posted on 05/12/2010 8:01:47 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: iowamark

Wait until the MSM reports that 70% of the citizens of Mass are racist haters and out of touch with the mainstream.


26 posted on 05/12/2010 8:10:22 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: iowamark

More evidence that Democrats push an aggressive immigration package at their peril.


27 posted on 05/12/2010 8:32:12 AM PDT by The Iguana
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To: Travis McGee

Never in my four decades of living have I seen the Governments so out of touch with the voters.... It’s like crazy ideologues calling shots no one understands.


28 posted on 05/12/2010 8:38:57 AM PDT by Republic Rocker
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To: iowamark

A tiny state like Mass. has 157 house members??!!


29 posted on 05/12/2010 8:43:22 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

The Massachusetts House had 240 members until 1978, now 160.


30 posted on 05/12/2010 9:34:37 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark

Sorry MA, you’ve made your bed. Lay in it.


31 posted on 05/12/2010 9:36:21 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


32 posted on 05/12/2010 11:07:36 AM PDT by HiJinx (~ Illegal is a Crime, it is not a Race ~)
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To: iowamark

Does this mean illegal aliens are already receiving (legally) state benefits? That is insane.


33 posted on 05/12/2010 11:09:21 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Republic of Texas

You’ve heard of Aunt Zeituni, haven’t you?


34 posted on 05/12/2010 11:12:05 AM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: VAFreedom
ONLY 70%? wow, it should be 100%

We are talking about Massachusetts, where anybody can vote. Illegal does not mean non-voter in many places... and not just in Mass. Zero is allowing lots of Ethiopian and Sudanese into the country on Diversity Visas. Most are Muslim and most are told to vote Dimocrap, when able! They are told they will get more from their votes!

35 posted on 05/12/2010 1:40:03 PM PDT by WVKayaker ( Ridicule is the best test of truth. - Philip Dormer Shanhope, Lord Chesterfield)
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