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Laura Bush Supports Gay Marriage, Abortion
abcnews.com ^ | May 12, 2010 | RUSSELL GOLDMAN

Posted on 05/12/2010 6:47:05 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Former first lady Laura Bush has broken with her husband on the premier social issues of his administration and said she backs gay marriage and abortion.

After more than eight years of silence on the controversial issues, Mrs. Bush said in an interview with CNN's Larry KingTuesday, that gay marriage and abortion were points of contention with her husband, former President George W. Bush.

Mrs. Bush in recent weeks has been promoting her memoir "Spoken from the Heart," in which she writes about her life both before and after becoming first lady.

In response to a question about gay marriage, she said, "There are a lot of people who have trouble coming to terms with that because they see marriage as traditionally between a man and a woman. But I also know that, you know, when couples are committed to each other and love each other, that they ought to have, I think, the same sort of rights that everyone has."

Mrs. Bush said she and the ex-president "disagree" on legalizing same-sex marriage.

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To: DoughtyOne; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; genetic homophobe; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ...
RE :”My inclination is to like Laura, but sadly she has lost her Conservative footing

As I recall Bush used her as a selling point in the 2004 re-election. She was America's first Lady sweetheart being compared with Kerry's entertaining (as in joke) rich elitist wife. I was taken in by her LB myself, but then again I was a huge Bush fan too.

This admission is clearly something she wanted to keep out of the press until husband Bush was out of office. Her views most likely reflect their daughter's liberal opinions that sound much like Megan McCains. This makes me think of Cheney's recent admission of his views on Open Homosexuality in the military(which would be a disaster) , I always figured those were his real views... but had to wait....

351 posted on 05/13/2010 8:04:59 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Ok, she was Pro-choice when she started out but after 8 years in the Whitehouse with her Pro-life husband in alignment with the Pro-life movement and she’s still Pro-Abortion! UGGHH! That says it all!


352 posted on 05/13/2010 8:05:35 AM PDT by Scarlet7
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To: sickoflibs

I agree. And Cheney, a guy that I like, was clearly way out of line with his advocacy of open overt homosexuality in the military.

I don’t like it when people who could be such a positive resource, destroy their credibility. At least I’m honest enough to address reality for what it is.

I was pretty sure Laura was shaky on some important matters. As long as she kept it to herself, it was her personal business. When she made it public, it became mine.


353 posted on 05/13/2010 8:09:11 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Excusaholic: MeCain lost to Jr., RINO endorsements are flying, & you live at 2012 Denial Blvd.)
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To: ClarenceThomasfan
Thank God we still have Sarah to look up to

I'm not holding my breath.

354 posted on 05/13/2010 8:12:05 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: DoughtyOne; stephenjohnbanker; rabscuttle385; genetic homophobe
RE :”I was pretty sure Laura was shaky on some important matters. As long as she kept it to herself, it was her personal business. When she made it public, it became mine.

These opinions tell us more about who she is selling her book to, then of GWB’s opinions (OH no, am I sticking up for GWB here??? LOL, out of character). Clearly she is pointing her book to a liberal (anything goes) Megan McCain type audience. The question is, who is reading it?

355 posted on 05/13/2010 8:15:48 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: cajungirl
who never made us ashamed of her

I am now.

356 posted on 05/13/2010 8:18:17 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: sickoflibs

Whatever the case, it gives people who wish to kill the unborn, one more person to point to that says it’s okay.

I’m not here to trash Laura, but I am disappointed and am going to express that.

I don’t think she has a clue how unfortunate this revelation is.

And quit supporting GWB, darn it. ;-)


357 posted on 05/13/2010 8:19:15 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Excusaholic: MeCain lost to Jr., RINO endorsements are flying, & you live at 2012 Denial Blvd.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I was merely pointing out that we have never had a requirement for the First Lady to have the same views as her husband. Nancy didn't Laura doesn't.

I am deeply dismayed that Laura hasn't yet understood the importance of the sanctity of life from inception, but I would think that the best thing for us to do is to pray for her (and I do).

Your initial statement that this hurts Laura's "conservative footing" remains an incorrect analysis.

Oh.........and I deal with the truth all the time, but thanks for the psychological assessment of my inadequacy. :)

358 posted on 05/13/2010 8:19:20 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: pillut48

same creepy,,,,

why is michelle Obama’s wax figure so light skinned?


359 posted on 05/13/2010 8:19:25 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Nextrush

“Bush 41 was Pro-Abortion until he became Reagan’s VP and President himself.” Look at this Wiki piece about Prescott Bush 41’s Daddy and 43’s Granddaddy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush

Look at His Politcal Career. Death runs deep with the Bushes.
Oh and looky here:
On December 2, 1954, Bush was part of the large (67-22) majority to censure Wisconsin Republican Senator Joseph McCarthy, after McCarthy had taken on the U.S. Army and the Eisenhower administration. Eisenhower later included Bush’s name on an undated handwritten list of prospective candidates he favored for the 1960 GOP presidential nomination.


360 posted on 05/13/2010 8:20:36 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: ohioWfan
Laura Bush never ran for any office. She is non-political, and always has been.

I submit that her willingness to now promote her views of homosexual marriage and abortion now makes her just one more political animal in the media. To say that she 'never ran for any office' and is non-political is a bit disingenuous in my view, there is no such thing as a 'non-political' First Lady or former First Lady, and we all know it, and while Laura's first name certainly never appeared on any ballot, her last name certainly did, attached to 'George, W.', true?

If the voters had preferred Tipper Gore in even slightly greater numbers, there is a good chance George and Laura would have returned to Crawford Texas in 2000, instead of heading to Washington, so I don't buy that argument about First Ladies not being a factor in politics, they most certainly are, as I see it.

There is no relationship between her view of abortion and Sarah Palin's........only her husband's.

Laura and Sarah are both women. And have a unique perspective of the issue of abortion that quite frankly, us men can never have.

And her husband's view is as pro-life as Sarah's. Thankfully, he is being recognized for that, and is continuing to speak out for the sanctity of life, long past any so-called 'pandering' to the 'religious right' (never a true statement, ever). In addition, Laura, in this same book and in interviews, has clearly stated that whatever was wrong with her babies, she would have them and love them. Just like Sarah, Todd, and Trig. Your 'suspicions' are completely wrong, mk.

Please note that my 'suspicions' were based on the *possible* events in an alternate universe, but I stand corrected on events in THIS universe, nevertheless. If Laura said that regarding her own then-unborn children, I will be the first to say more power to her, however that sentiment actually creates more of a juxtaposition.

btw, my husband married a young woman he found in a Baptist church choir. ;)

You are incredibly more tolerant than I ever suspected, and I confess to wondering, how did he avoid a local indictment for bigamy?

(cue joke about "that's mighty big o' you", "NO, that's mighty big o' ME!" ... [j/k, I know what you meant! ;)]
361 posted on 05/13/2010 8:22:43 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: longtermmemmory
Why is michelle Obama’s wax figure so light skinned?

Doesn't get out in the sun enough?
362 posted on 05/13/2010 8:24:11 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’m speechless. What a complete sellout to the left and its immoral agenda. Now we know, in part, why George W could never get very exercised about conservative social issues.


363 posted on 05/13/2010 8:24:40 AM PDT by Elpasser
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To: DoughtyOne
I don’t think she has a clue how unfortunate this revelation is.

We can turn this revelation into a positive for Laura, if we all commit ourselves to pray for her understanding in this area.

People who are pro-life want others to grow. I'm sure her husband does. WE should too. Shouldn't we?

If every committed pro-life person prays for her, it could make a difference.

The prayers of the righteous avail much.

364 posted on 05/13/2010 8:25:33 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Prayers for her to change her mind.

May she learn to stand up for life!

Prayer to End Abortion

Lord God, I thank you today for the gift of my life,
And for the lives of all my brothers and sisters.

I know there is nothing that destroys more life than abortion,
Yet I rejoice that you have conquered death
by the Resurrection of Your Son.

I am ready to do my part in ending abortion.
Today I commit myself
Never to be silent,
Never to be passive,
Never to be forgetful of the unborn.

I commit myself to be active in the pro-life movement,
And never to stop defending life
Until all my brothers and sisters are protected,
And our nation once again becomes
A nation with liberty and justice
Not just for some, but for all.

Through Christ our Lord. Amen!


365 posted on 05/13/2010 8:26:14 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ohioWfan
I was merely pointing out that we have never had a requirement for the First Lady to have the same views as her husband. Nancy didn't Laura doesn't.

I don't believe I've ever made the case that our First Ladies must have the same views as thier husband.  Their views stand on their own IMO.

I do however think that a wife voicing an opinion different from her husband's under such a situation would be unfortunate.  Laura's comment came after her husband left office.  That is the proper time to express such opinions.  I still think she was wrong to do so, and it will have negative impact on young impressionable minds.

I am deeply dismayed that Laura hasn't yet understood the importance of the sanctity of life from inception, but I would think that the best thing for us to do is to pray for her (and I do).

I agree.

Your initial statement that this hurts Laura's "conservative footing" remains an incorrect analysis.

Not at all...  This is going to cause a lot of people to take a pass on her book.  It's going to impact their view of Laura also.

Oh.........and I deal with the truth all the time, but thanks for the psychological assessment of my inadequacy. :)

Well both of us would like to think so, but only one of us does.  ;-)

And as for my astute assessment, it's worth the money you paid to get it, darn it!

366 posted on 05/13/2010 8:30:25 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Excusaholic: MeCain lost to Jr., RINO endorsements are flying, & you live at 2012 Denial Blvd.)
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To: Gondring

You’re right. She didn’t lie directly. She just let Conservatives *assume* that she was a Conservative. It’s a lie by ommission.


367 posted on 05/13/2010 8:31:09 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Laura Bush is FOR the butchering of babies in the womb. She is pro-abortion.)
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To: ohioWfan

I was so looking forward to reading her book. No longer! But I will keep her and especially our country’s leaders in my prayers!


368 posted on 05/13/2010 8:33:14 AM PDT by Scarlet7
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To: DoughtyOne

RE :”Whatever the case, it gives people who wish to kill the unborn, one more person to point to that says it’s okay.”

Don’t misunderstand me. She LB clearly thinks abortion is OK. She clearly said she supports Roe vs Wade as a woman’s constitutional right to abortion. I was just saying this set of interviews is all about selling her book to Megan McCain type RINOs who have similar views.


369 posted on 05/13/2010 8:33:20 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: mkjessup
LOL to the joke at the end.

As for Laura, I would really recommend that you read her entire book. It won't keep you from being deeply disappointed at her views on these two issues, but it will give you a deeper insight into who she is, and the depth of her character.

It is true that she is 'attached' to George W, but so was Nancy to Ronnie (who met, incidentally in Hollywood, and not at a back yard barbeque in Texas, and certainly not in a Baptist church!), but unless you can come up with anyone who voted for him because of her, your argument falls flat.

No one knew a thing about her in 2000. People were comparing her to Mamie Eisenhower, for goodness' sake! She was a shy librarian who grew into being a classy First Lady who helped the nation through some really tough times.

I grieve at her lack of understanding about the sanctity of life, but it has made me more concerned about her, and not less. She needs to 'get' this, and I will be praying for her to do just that. I think with how much she valued her own babies and would never have ended their lives under any circumstances, she is "teachable."

370 posted on 05/13/2010 8:34:53 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Scarlet7
Her book is absolutely wonderful. It reads like a high quality novel, and is beautiful as literature, and gives great insight, not only into who she is, but what this country is. Reading it made me even more proud to be an American.

But she does need prayer in this area, and I'm sure she will benefit from it.

371 posted on 05/13/2010 8:37:00 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

LOL!!


372 posted on 05/13/2010 8:39:24 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (I can see November from my house!)
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To: Albion Wilde

;-)


373 posted on 05/13/2010 8:40:34 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: onyx
" First Lady Laura Bush has always been pro-abortion, but I didn’t know she also supports gay marriage until I watched LKL that I TIVO’d last night.

UGH.

Her progressive (and I think unconscionable) views are hers and she didn’t influence her husband, President Bush.

Are you sure about that?

National Guard Boy wanted to put millions of additional Democrat voters on the rolls.

A pox on the whole bunch of them <;^(

374 posted on 05/13/2010 8:41:07 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion Stops A Beating Heart)
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To: sickoflibs

I don’t disagree with you. Well, I may to a certain extent, because while it’s clear to me this is her core belief, I do believe she may have put it in there to sell books.
To the extent that is true though, it’s really unseemly. It begs the question what people won’t do to sell books.


375 posted on 05/13/2010 8:42:44 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Excusaholic: MeCain lost to Jr., RINO endorsements are flying, & you live at 2012 Denial Blvd.)
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To: sabe@q.com
"Laura Bush is anything but dumb."

Sad - but true. Notice how she waited till NG boy was out of office till she exposed her thoughts on slaughtering the unborn and offering the blessings of the state to deviants :^(

376 posted on 05/13/2010 8:47:08 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion Stops A Beating Heart)
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To: ohioWfan

I thought it would be. I admired Laura Bush. She was a beautiful First Lady who exhibited great class. But alas, I shall have to pass on buying her book and instead donate the money to a pro-life charity. For me, it’s the right thing to do.


377 posted on 05/13/2010 8:49:37 AM PDT by Scarlet7
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To: DoughtyOne; sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; genetic homophobe; ...

RE Laura, Cheney:

Sadly, it just shows me how compromised we really are.

These people can stand up one day and pretend to be one thing, and in reality are something entirely different, and the folks in the country who are desperate to believe in someone/something just run right along after them...

Had a lot of respect for her. Now, not so much. I won’t trash her, though. She never tried to force it on me and mine by force of law, so that’s to her credit.

The choices people make regarding those issues are between them and God, and they will answer for it; when they try to coerce /force me to buy into it, then it becomes a different matter entirely.

What a sad, sorry thing to hear.


378 posted on 05/13/2010 8:51:27 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
‘Spoken from the Heart’

“For God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everything.”

“The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?”

“Remember how the Lord your God led you all the way in the desert these forty years, to humble you and to test you in order to know what was in your heart, whether or not you would keep his commands.”

The Bush family needs to find another Church that nurtures the heart rather than deceives the heart.

379 posted on 05/13/2010 8:52:35 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: porter_knorr; Outlaw Woman
You think someone who is considering an abortion is going to care what Laura Bush thinks about it?

No, but it expands the definition of what it means to be a Republican or a Conservative. "Hey, Laura Bush thinks abortion is OK, so it must be OK." "Laura Bush thinks gay marriage is OK, so it must be OK." What we don't need is the Republican party going any more to the Left.

380 posted on 05/13/2010 8:55:40 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Laura Bush is FOR the butchering of babies in the womb. She is pro-abortion.)
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No one should be really surprised at this article. She has hinted before on numerous occasions that she is more liberal than her husband on social issues. Actually, the wives of the last 3 Republican presidents (Reagan, Bush Sr., Bush) took contrary views from their husbands when it came to social issues such as abortion and gay rights. This isn’t news...


381 posted on 05/13/2010 9:00:59 AM PDT by ruschpa
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To: DoughtyOne

LOL, I cant figure out if you just told me you agree with me or not. but I cant disagree with the points in your last comment:)


382 posted on 05/13/2010 9:03:54 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: Scarlet7

I understand. I wish you had read it first. It’s a marvelous, insightful book.


383 posted on 05/13/2010 9:04:06 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: NFHale

NFHale, that pretty much expresses my view of it. I do feel compelled to object, but I’m not here to turn this into a LB hate fest.

I’m not being asked to evaluate her for office. She’s a private citizen. I couldn’t disagree with her more on this issue.

Human beings should not be killed, at any stage of their life.

(Of course that doesn’t address adults who have committed a capital crime)


384 posted on 05/13/2010 9:04:08 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Excusaholic: MeCain lost to Jr., RINO endorsements are flying, & you live at 2012 Denial Blvd.)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
People do NOT look to Laura Bush, Barbara Bush, Nancy Reagan, Betty Ford, or Mamie Eisenhower and Pat Nixon to see what the Republican party believes.

It doesn't "expand" any definition of anything, let alone the entire Republican party.

385 posted on 05/13/2010 9:06:17 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: presently no screen name

>>> That doesn’t say anything.

Neither did he when the left was lying about his record.
That would have been a good start.


386 posted on 05/13/2010 9:08:05 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Pro-life is a PREREQUISITE for my vote, NOT a panacea.

Even if a vote never comes up on any pro-life issue ever again, it at least shows the morality and integrity of a person.

387 posted on 05/13/2010 9:08:50 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Laura Bush is FOR the butchering of babies in the womb. She is pro-abortion.)
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To: Outlaw Woman

I’m thinking it guarantees her a spot on Oprah’s show.


388 posted on 05/13/2010 9:08:51 AM PDT by Yorktownpatriot
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To: DoughtyOne

“...Human beings should not be killed, at any stage of their life. (Of course that doesn’t address adults who have committed a capital crime)...”

It takes real mental gymnastics, and maybe even a touch of insanity, for libs to be able to justify murdering an infant on one hand as a “woman’s choice” and be OK with it, and then without blinking an eye, turn around and bemoan and wail for the life of a convicted murderer about to be executed.

Proving once again Michael Savage’s point that liberalism is truly a mental disorder...

As for LB - I’ll pray for her soul, as I pray for my own.


389 posted on 05/13/2010 9:09:52 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp

“Even if a vote never comes up on any pro-life issue ever again, it at least shows the morality and integrity of a person. “

Amen!


390 posted on 05/13/2010 9:11:47 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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To: Cicero

I have no love loss for any politicians and their wives, don’t care for most of them. We the people never really know who we are voting for except for Obama there was just too much radicals friends but when it all comes down to it, it’s all about them and not so much about us. Call me cynical I can accept that! Bush had 8 years to do something about the border especially after 911, that has always been a sticking point for me.


391 posted on 05/13/2010 9:14:14 AM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: NFHale; DoughtyOne
RE :"These people can stand up one day and pretend to be one thing, and in reality are something entirely different, and the folks in the country who are desperate to believe in someone/something just run right along after them... Had a lot of respect for her. Now, not so much. I won’t trash her, though. She never tried to force it on me and mine by force of law, so that’s to her credit."

Unlike her husband with No Child Left behind, or TARP, or amnesty, or.. you get the idea. I bet she was ga-ga over No Child...

392 posted on 05/13/2010 9:17:04 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: sickoflibs; DoughtyOne; stephenjohnbanker; genetic homophobe

I find it remarkable that I took it on faith that GWB’s pro-life belief was going to influence the rest of his character so profoundly that it alone would be enough to make him the right man to be POTUS. Now notice that, although abortion is mentioned when there is a SCOTUS vacancy, the big issues for the GOP are the budget, crap and trade, amnesty, obamacare, etc. In fact, in a way, Obama used Stupak’s commitment to the pro-life cause to get his vote for obamacare.

Another strange irony (at least a double irony) is that the amnesty of 10s of millions of illegals who are mostly pro-life would make it almost impossible to do anything for the unborn, and that pro-life GWB fought so hard to pass amnesty.


393 posted on 05/13/2010 9:18:18 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: DoughtyOne
In a marvelous, insightful, 432 page book, Laura devotes exactly ONE LINE to her belief that "no one can walk in anyone else's shoes." She devotes page after page on their struggle to have children and her firm belief that no matter what was wrong with her babies, she would give birth to them and love them.

As a matter of fact, the only comment on abortion came as a critique of Katie Couric and the media trap. Larry King pressed her on the issue in his interview, and she didn't lie.

It's not as if, as some are implying, or stating outright, she deceitfully waited until her husband was out of office to preach pro-abortion views.

(Some of the comments on this thread are ludicrous).

I'm sorry that anyone would decide not to buy this wonderful book because of this. I think it's a mistake, because it is loaded with so much information and detail about what went on for 8 years in the protection of this great nation. It gives detail about the greatness of the American people. It gives insight into the character of those who led us for eight years.

It is a GOOD read, and well worth it for anyone. I hope it remains on the best seller lists for a long time, and that those who don't want to buy it, borrow it.

In the mean time, let's pray for Laura.........and thanks for the free advice. ;)

394 posted on 05/13/2010 9:19:17 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: sickoflibs

Did any of you ever wonder about her that she would consider herself a Christian and believe homosexual marriage and abortion was ok? Truth be said we the people can’t trust anyone? Just because someone calls themselves a Christian or a conservative in politics meanings nothing. woe to those that call evil good and good evil.


395 posted on 05/13/2010 9:20:13 AM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: mylife

amen


396 posted on 05/13/2010 9:20:47 AM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: Yorktownpatriot

She was already interviewed by Oprah, and the subject never came up. It was really a good interview, considering it was Oprah......


397 posted on 05/13/2010 9:20:47 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; All

Boycott her stupid book. Why subsidize moral corruption? Get lost Laura.


398 posted on 05/13/2010 9:20:52 AM PDT by FreepShop1
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To: Outlaw Woman

I agree why?


399 posted on 05/13/2010 9:21:35 AM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: sickoflibs

“I bet she was ga-ga over No Child... “

If not the instigator of it.


400 posted on 05/13/2010 9:21:36 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops....and vote out the RINOS!)
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