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Laura Bush Supports Gay Marriage, Abortion
abcnews.com ^ | May 12, 2010 | RUSSELL GOLDMAN

Posted on 05/12/2010 6:47:05 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Former first lady Laura Bush has broken with her husband on the premier social issues of his administration and said she backs gay marriage and abortion.

After more than eight years of silence on the controversial issues, Mrs. Bush said in an interview with CNN's Larry KingTuesday, that gay marriage and abortion were points of contention with her husband, former President George W. Bush.

Mrs. Bush in recent weeks has been promoting her memoir "Spoken from the Heart," in which she writes about her life both before and after becoming first lady.

In response to a question about gay marriage, she said, "There are a lot of people who have trouble coming to terms with that because they see marriage as traditionally between a man and a woman. But I also know that, you know, when couples are committed to each other and love each other, that they ought to have, I think, the same sort of rights that everyone has."

Mrs. Bush said she and the ex-president "disagree" on legalizing same-sex marriage.

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To: sickoflibs; genetic homophobe
You like breaking FR rules, don't you, sick?

And I see you like mocking prayer too.

Perhaps you should be careful with both of those problems. Neither is particularly a good quality in an adult, whould you ever become one....

601 posted on 05/13/2010 7:45:00 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Aetius; woofie; rabscuttle385; AuntB; stephenjohnbanker; mkjessup
RE :”As far as Cheney goes; I’ve never heard him clearly address the issue of the Courts and who should decide the issue. He has said that gay couples should have the same rights as everyone else, but has also said that it should be left to the states. So who knows how he would feel about a Roe-like decision on gay marriage?

Look, I am for states deciding marriage laws, and specifically states deciding AGAINST same-sex marriage and I am even against civil unions that give the benefits of marriage to gays or unmarried hetro couples. I feel the same way on abortion, but AFTER Roe is overturned which it should be.

But please don't try to give the impression Cheney is neutral. He is for same-sex marriage AND open homosexuality in the military (a complete disaster.) There is no question about this, whatever his reasons. And Laura has similar views.

602 posted on 05/13/2010 7:45:51 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: ohioWfan
How about the supporters of the quintessential RINO, Ron Paul? Are there any here?

Ron Paul supporter here!

He may be a republican in name only, but loyalty to a party that doesn't deliver is a waste of time.

He is the only true conservative and constitutionalist that the GOP has. Plus, he's pro-life and against special privileges for queers.

603 posted on 05/13/2010 7:56:18 PM PDT by grand wazoo
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To: wagglebee

I’m not surprised. When she came out for fetal stem cell research a while back, well, this is cut from the same cloth.

She has the typical liberal habit of not thinking, but rather, she responds from her emotions. You can tell from her reasons for homosexual “marriage.”

How ironic that her book is from “her heart,” when abortion stops the hearts of others.

I’ll pass on this book.


604 posted on 05/13/2010 7:59:19 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (FR threads critical of John McCain, Michael Steele, and Karl Rove really cheer me up! :-D)
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To: grand wazoo
Reforming a Party that has lost its way from within is most certainly not a waste of time.

Supporting a guaranteed loser who is most certainly NOT an across the board conservative, and is the quintessential RINO is destructive to the conservative movement.

605 posted on 05/13/2010 8:01:28 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Lauren BaRecall
RE :"How ironic that her book is from “her heart,” when abortion stops the hearts of others."

Thanks for that! That is the quote of the day :)

606 posted on 05/13/2010 8:04:48 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: sickoflibs
I've been meaning to show you this for several weeks, since you revealed that you thought Ohio and California were in the same time zones.

I thought I'd help you out with a geography lesson, since you obviously either never had it, or failed it.

Here you go......

If there's anything else I can help you with, just let me know. You obviously missed a lot of school.

607 posted on 05/13/2010 8:07:42 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: sickoflibs

I also oppose civil unions. To me it makes no sense to oppose gay marriage yet support civil unions. That is a position that seeks to preserve the word ‘marriage’ and nothing else. Not that the word has no meaning, of course it does because the Left wants it so bad. They already had gay marriage in all but name in California, but they want the word ‘marriage’ because it would represent a total triumph on their part.

I didn’t mean to suggest that Cheney is neutral. I’m sure he’d stab conservatives in the back on this issue given the chance. My point was about how the line of questioning on this issue is too limited. One should not be allowed to simply say that they oppose or support gay marriage/civil unions; they should be asked who they think should decide the issue, the people or the judges. If they support gay marriage, they should be asked if they think it is a Constitutional right that should be imposed on an unwilling nation.

But we never get answers to questions like that because the questions are never asked. Even Republicans seldom bring this up.


608 posted on 05/13/2010 8:16:24 PM PDT by Aetius
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I am late to this but I’m very disheartened (yet not totally surprised) to read of this.

Right or wrong, I sent an email to the GWB presidential library telling them to take me off of their mailing list requesting donations. I am a Bush supporter but this leaves a very bitter taste in mouth. I feel like she is thumbing her nose at the *only* people who supported her husband throughout his presidency and even now. In the email, I told them perhaps they can rely on Laura’s newfound pro-abortion/gay marriage friends to fund the library since she felt so compelled to share those political views of hers with the world. Her daughters wanted it known, too, that they’re not even sure they would vote for Republicans. Let those “moderates” and “liberals” with whom they’re so enamored pony up the money for his library.


609 posted on 05/13/2010 8:16:59 PM PDT by mom-o-eb
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To: NFHale; genetic homophobe; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; dools007; ...
One of the arguments I picked up on today goes like this :
Laura Bush may believe in these progressive ideas like gay marriage and abortion but that doesn't matter because she kept them (kind of, but not really) secret till now and only really spilled her guts because she went on those mean liberal’s shows to sell her books (to all those liberals watching) and it really was a dirty trick to ask what her real opinions are. So now that we got that all settled let's go back to our ‘Pray for President Bush’ thread, read another chapter of Laura's book, post a few more pictures of George in that jumpsuit and have another good cry. Life was good.

Agree? Disagree with this argument?

Please don't call me a Laura-bot. Some of you have been mean to me :)

610 posted on 05/13/2010 8:20:17 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: ohioWfan
Reforming a Party that has lost its way from within is most certainly not a waste of time.

When Ron Paul is attacked and people like W and his wife are put on pedestals, no reform occurs.

Supporting a guaranteed loser who is most certainly NOT an across the board conservative, and is the quintessential RINO is destructive to the conservative movement.

He was the only true conservative on the stage during the presidential primaries.

Name one other republican that wanted to cut the budget or eliminate a federal agency.

611 posted on 05/13/2010 8:27:28 PM PDT by grand wazoo
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To: Aetius; rabscuttle385
RE :”But we never get answers to questions like that because the questions are never asked. Even Republicans seldom bring this up.

I agree with you there.

You know in 2008 I saw McCain on ‘The View’ and he was asked about abortion and he replied “Original intent of constitution’ or maybe ‘strict constructionist’ (McCain is a huge phony anyway BTW.)

Whoopie told him that it meant 'going back to slavery' and McCain replies “I disagree’. That is all he could say? Anyone that knows anything about the constitution knows that's not true. Not President McCain was clueless like most of them LOL

612 posted on 05/13/2010 8:28:39 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: sickoflibs

Yeah, I remember that. Whoopie serves up a completely idiotic caricature of originalism that is just asking to be swatted down, and McCain barely responds whatsoever.

Wouldn’t it be nice to have a candidate who could actually articulate conservative views. I couldn’t help but think of how Fred Thompson would have handled that.


613 posted on 05/13/2010 8:34:28 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: sickoflibs
dude, even lions only play with their food for so long before the thrill is gone...

anyways, since your a 'rule breaker' i guess Ill hafta just keep checkin yer pings...8^}

614 posted on 05/13/2010 8:38:51 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Aetius

RE :”Wouldn’t it be nice to have a candidate who could actually articulate conservative views.”

Have you ever seen Scalia debate Breyer on constitutional issues on CSPAN (in a live debate) ?? It was magic...saw two debates a few years back.


615 posted on 05/13/2010 8:41:11 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: Gilbo_3; genetic homophobe; stephenjohnbanker
RE :”dude, even lions only play with their food for so long before the thrill is gone...anyways, since your a ‘rule breaker’ i guess Ill hafta just keep checkin yer pings...8^}

GH got me started and I cant stop.....he is evil :)

616 posted on 05/13/2010 8:43:34 PM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: grand wazoo
When Ron Paul is attacked and people like W and his wife are put on pedestals, no reform occurs.

The elites just love us pro-life voters. We are so dependable. They will never do anything to risk such a good situation for them. They make me sick to my stomach.

617 posted on 05/13/2010 8:58:16 PM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific!)
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To: cricket

You need to change your online name to “Awesome”!


618 posted on 05/13/2010 9:03:19 PM PDT by tsomer
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To: ohioWfan
And I see you like mocking prayer too.

Proverbs 28:9
He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.

619 posted on 05/13/2010 9:04:36 PM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific!)
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To: ohioWfan
Isaiah 1:15
And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.
620 posted on 05/13/2010 9:07:13 PM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific!)
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To: ohioWfan
Jeremiah 7:16
Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them, neither make intercession to me: for I will not hear thee.
621 posted on 05/13/2010 9:08:00 PM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific!)
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To: sickoflibs

Yeah, I did see one of those. It was great.

Why couldn’t Bush or McCain just study those tapes and copy Scalia?

‘Judges shouldn’t legislate from the bench’ is true and most people agree, but our guys need to go a littel further than that.


622 posted on 05/13/2010 9:32:33 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: ohioWfan
Who gets to be the guy in the picture? You, mk? ;*)

No, it'll have to be someone else who is getting pummeled in this thread, lol
623 posted on 05/13/2010 10:00:42 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: sickoflibs; All
You guys saying those prayers for Laura yet??

Yes I am, and I'm also praying for everyone in this thread.
624 posted on 05/13/2010 10:06:17 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: Gilbo_3; sickoflibs; genetic homophobe
dude, even lions only play with their food for so long before the thrill is gone...

ROTFL


625 posted on 05/13/2010 10:10:23 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: sickoflibs
But please don't try to give the impression Cheney is neutral. He is for same-sex marriage AND open homosexuality in the military (a complete disaster.) There is no question about this, whatever his reasons. And Laura has similar views.

To put this bluntly, when a parent discovers that their child is a homosexual, there is nothing to celebrate, nothing to rejoice in. There is nothing but deep and vast disappointment because not only does it mean that their child has chosen to defy the laws of God and nature, it means that somewhere along the line, the parent failed in presenting to their child in a comprehensive and effective manner, the fact that our species exists and perpetuates itself by heterosexual behavior not by any other 'lifestyle choice', and that homosexuality is NOT something which is no different than being left handed or right handed, it is exactly what Almighty God called it, it is an abomination.

Having said all that, a parent will love (or should love) their child no matter what, and I believe that former Vice President Cheney loves his daughter no matter what. Is he happy with her choices? You can be assured that he most likely is NOT. Will he criticize or denounce his daughter in public? No, because he places his love for his daughter above any and every public and social policy there is, and that is to be expected. I understand it.

Does such a development (having a homosexual child) affect one's views, judgments and perspective?

It certainly does, it forces the parent to live that old standard every day for the rest of their lives in regards to their child, which is "hate the sin, but love the sinner", and that is a heart wrenching thing to have to do.

Dick Cheney remains one of our finest Vice Presidents, his own personal family trials and tribulations notwithstanding.
626 posted on 05/13/2010 10:17:33 PM PDT by mkjessup
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To: little jeremiah

LOL!! That’s what I started - packing up clothes to donate.

Have a great FRfree weekend.;)


627 posted on 05/13/2010 11:12:57 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Let’s review what we learned today in Crazy Town. I;m not really sure, but I think it goes like this:

- “Butchering babies” is a bad thing, but abortion is not, especially if Laura Bush is for it.

- Deb becomes progressively unhinged if you argue with her long enough (took me about 3 posts, but you guys already had her riled up).


628 posted on 05/13/2010 11:34:32 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: mkjessup
I happen to believe that homosexuality is largely innate, like heterosexuality and asexuality. We see it in numerous other animal species including some primates.

And sometimes you can just tell really early. There were a couple of kids in my high school that I just knew were gay. I could tell from mannerisms -- things like voice tone and mannerisms are substantially genetic. I thought to myself, these guys are gay. And it wasn't anything environmental that did it to them. They probably knew from a very young age that they were gay, just like I knew from a young age that I was straight. I knew I liked looking at the lingerie-clad models in the JC Penney catalog, haha.

Now that doesn't mean that people need to support gay marriage simply because it's most likely an inherited trait, like eye color or handedness. Quite the contrary. But I am completely unconvinced that it is a choice. I don't see the benefits that homosexuals are getting by choosing it. What benefits does society confer on them? Why would someone choose to be gay today?

Nope. I haven't seen any evidence to make me believe that someone chooses to be gay. People can debate the ramifications of homosexuality all day, but I think that people are largely born gay.

629 posted on 05/14/2010 1:51:37 AM PDT by IHateLeftists
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To: IHateLeftists
I think you are correct for a small percentage of the population and homosexuals.

BUT, for a growing segment I do think it is a choice or more a pathology. Especially as society becomes more ill.

People choose all sorts of self destructive behavior for complicated reasons.

630 posted on 05/14/2010 1:58:25 AM PDT by riri
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To: riri

Didn’t really understand your response.


631 posted on 05/14/2010 2:18:32 AM PDT by IHateLeftists
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To: Lauren BaRecall
I’m not surprised. When she came out for fetal stem cell research a while back, well, this is cut from the same cloth.

I'm just so very disappointed in Laura Bush over this.

She has the typical liberal habit of not thinking, but rather, she responds from her emotions. You can tell from her reasons for homosexual “marriage.”

I think it's something else -- it's like an oil slick that spreads out and fouls everything. Sometimes I think, "Are all these people being blackmailed?" Because they seem to come to decisions about fundamental issues that are so against the principles that they and the country grew up with and were intellectually and morally nurtured by.

It has got to be a sociopolitical conspiracy of some kind, disciplining people in DC and the Atlantic corridor who deviate from The Agenda, so that all the elites up and down the Megalopolis fall into line.

If that's the case .... (censoring self).

632 posted on 05/14/2010 2:46:59 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: IHateLeftists
I happen to believe that homosexuality is largely innate, like heterosexuality and asexuality. We see it in numerous other animal species including some primates.

Irving Bieber, before the homosexuals mugged the American Psychiatric Association and took over all the committees on the subject and began enforcing PC, did a longitudinal study of homosexual men in the late 1950's and early 1960's.

He looked at whether psychotherapy could help men who displayed homosexual behavior, which in turn involved some inquiry into the etiology of homosexuality.

Long book cut short, he concluded that about 1/3rd of homosexual men are "hard-wired" (i.e. "essential" homosexuals), while other groups display varying responses to attempts at psychotherapy and conversion therapy. He was attacked by the gay cabal, who tried to discredit him and terminate studies like his.

Nevertheless, in the 1990's, some 35-40% of healthcare professionals still believed, like Bieber and against the best propaganda efforts of the cabal, that homosexuality is primarily psychological (and therefore susceptible of psychotherapeutic amelioration).

The "essentialist" position is basically a lawyer's position, and not science; it's an argument the gay lawyer corps wants to push on the Supreme Court, that homosexuality is an "is", i.e. an essence (like black skin), and not a behavior or choice (and therefore subject to society's legislation and undeserving of the Supreme Court's highest standards of legal protection).

Interestingly, there are a significant proportion of gays who believe that sexual identity is "constructed", plastic, fluid, and changeable. Which means they are not on the same page as Lambda Legal, which will have somehow to keep them out of the courtroom.

633 posted on 05/14/2010 3:05:20 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: cajungirl
"She has a right to her opinion and I still admire her enormously. She was a Lady, a good wife and a wonderful first lady who never made us ashamed of her."

Until now.

How can you "admire" anyone who supports the murder of innocent human life?

634 posted on 05/14/2010 3:27:06 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: IHateLeftists
I haven't seen any evidence to make me believe that someone chooses to be gay. People can debate the ramifications of homosexuality all day, but I think that people are largely born gay.

I cannot concur with that, based on the fact that God does not manufacture defective goods. For Him to design someone to be homosexual would be contrary to His Word, and that Word is something which He will not break.

You may of course subscribe to whatever explanation that you might be comfortable with which is another benefit of Godly construction, a free mind to believe whatever you wish.

Have a good day.
635 posted on 05/14/2010 4:06:18 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The disgusting idolatry that was practiced toward Laura Bush for YEARS here on FR was frankly: sinful.

There. I said it, and I’ll stand by it.


636 posted on 05/14/2010 4:10:51 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: tsomer

;^). . .this forum is awesome!


637 posted on 05/14/2010 4:19:01 AM PDT by cricket (We ARE the Truman Show)
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To: mkjessup
I cannot concur with that, based on the fact that God does not manufacture defective goods. For Him to design someone to be homosexual would be contrary to His Word, and that Word is something which He will not break.

You are aware that something called "the Fall of Man" happened a few years back, no? Free Will was reputedly involved? It was reported to have had some deleterious effects on God's creation?

I don't believe that there will be drunks in Heaven; but that doesn't mean that there aren't a few otherwise-upstanding Christians out there who struggle with an innate weakness for the Demon Bottle, here and now, in this life. Other folks have other weaknesses.

The question is not whether or not we are each born with temptations towards one (or more) sin or another; I think that's almost a Theological certainty. The question, rather, is whether or not we choose to act on our innate temptations.

638 posted on 05/14/2010 4:27:53 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Christian_Capitalist

We enter the world literally as innocent as babes.

What happens to us, specifically the choices that we make between the womb and the tomb remains a matter of free will.

Your observations on temptations and our personal struggles with them are poignant.

I don’t claim to know all the answers, but I do know what I believe, and all I can do is “each day, try my best, and trust Jesus for the rest.”


639 posted on 05/14/2010 4:40:50 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: mkjessup

“I cannot concur with that, based on the fact that God does not manufacture defective goods. For Him to design someone to be homosexual would be contrary to His Word, and that Word is something which He will not break.”

Yes, and one might also mention the fact that there is no scientific or even anecdotal evidence to support the notion that people are “born” with a compulsion to commit sodomy.

“You may of course subscribe to whatever explanation that you might be comfortable with which is another benefit of Godly construction, a free mind to believe whatever you wish.”

Also true, but I would note that there is a difference between having the ability to be wrong and having the right to be wrong.


640 posted on 05/14/2010 4:57:16 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: mkjessup
RE :”To put this bluntly, when a parent discovers that their child is a homosexual, there is nothing to celebrate, nothing to rejoice in. ...Is he happy with her choices? You can be assured that he most likely is NOT. Will he criticize or denounce his daughter in public? No, because he places his love for his daughter above any and every public and social policy there is, and that is to be expected. I understand it

You ever watch that A+E show Intervention?? I call it the 'enabler' show because the parents buy their kids crack, crystal meth, alcohol, give them a place to stay and to get high(they say to keep them safe), give them a car and bail them out of jail...all while telling the camera they hate the child's destructive behavior but they do it out of 'love'.

As irritating as these master enablers are there is another group of enablers that are even worse. They tell themselves their kids don't have the problem, it's the world that has the problem. If only the world was more accepting of these behaviors. If only we could teach safe use of these drugs in schools their kids would be OK. If only we taught kids how to use contraceptives they could have safe sex. If only we marry homosexuals and treat them like our married parents they wouldnt have multiple partners. It is repression that is the problem not the personal behaviour. I don't buy it.

I cant agree on giving special rights for homosexual behaviour (treating it as a race or sex), kids or no kids . It is destructive behavior.

641 posted on 05/14/2010 4:58:41 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Is there no one, even here, who understands how agreeing to use the euphemism “gay” to describe sodomites is a significant defeat in the culture war?

It is an axiom on the left: If you want to change what people think, first change the words they use.

Resist, people, resist!


642 posted on 05/14/2010 5:02:40 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc
I never use the term 'gay', the term is homosexual, and there is very little if anything happy and 'gay' about it.
643 posted on 05/14/2010 5:05:35 AM PDT by mkjessup
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To: mkjessup; dsc
RE :”I never use the term ‘gay’, the term is homosexual, and there is very little if anything happy and ‘gay’ about it.

I don't think that mattered much. A bigger problem was when official associations like AMA and Mental Health association came out with positions that it was not a mental illness. That led to the theories that the high statistics of self destruction came from the society imposed guilt, not the core behavior. The solution being that we change, not them. Then add teaching public schools and you got liberals, libertarians and some establishment republicans (noted on this thread) all polling for new rights for homos, er gays.

Unfortunately many local discrimination laws make it risky/illegal to even discuss opposition openly.

644 posted on 05/14/2010 5:15:27 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: mkjessup
We enter the world literally as innocent as babes.

I'd say that Original Sin puts a stain on even that.

But even if not, I know that Original Sin has cursed us all with at least a proclivity towards sinful temptations; some folks may have a weakness for the Demon Bottle (perhaps I may have tippled a little, in my own youth), while other folks may suffer from some degree of Same-Sex Attraction Disorder. It wouldn't surprise me if some of these predispositions do manifest genetically; what I object to is the phrase "hard-wired". Wha-huh? Whatever happened to individual choice, to Human Free Will? We're born with individual tendencies, individual weaknesses; but we each choose our own courses of action, throughout the day.

And I say that as a Calvinist myself, so I have no problem with strongly Predestinarian beliefs or thinking; but the extremity of determinism suggested by the advocates of genetic homosexuality is disturbing. For the sake of observing that some of our individual tendencies may have a genetic component, a bit of hereditary weakness or what have you, they'd throw out all the importance of environmental factors, and just plain individual choices, and reduce Human Free Will essentially to the level of the robotic. Now THAT'S the kind of thinking on this subject to which I do object.

645 posted on 05/14/2010 5:21:14 AM PDT by Christian_Capitalist (Taxation over 10% is Tyranny -- 1 Samuel 8:17)
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To: Godebert

I can,,my thinking is not yours. And frankly, hardly anyone on this thread elicits my admiration.


646 posted on 05/14/2010 5:25:03 AM PDT by cajungirl
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To: sickoflibs

Dam, this thread has 5 or 6 HUNDRED posts? Sorry about that, I slipped up. BWAHAHAHAHA


647 posted on 05/14/2010 5:32:33 AM PDT by genetic homophobe
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To: sickoflibs

“I don’t think that mattered much.”

It matters a great deal. The words we use shape our worldview more than we realize. That is why the left is so intent upon imposing their vocabulary.

For instance, to argue about “abortion rights” is to concede that there *could* be a right to kill an innocent, preborn human being, without ever examining that question on its merits. It simply assumes it, which is a significant victory for evil.

Sanity, of course, requires that we reject that notion out of hand. What would be the source of such a right? Would God say that it is okay to kill a baby?

When you start from that premise, it is a very different argument.


648 posted on 05/14/2010 5:36:44 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: genetic homophobe
RE :”Dam, this thread has 5 or 6 HUNDRED posts? Sorry about that, I slipped up. BWAHAHAHAHA

Yep, it's one of the more fun ones, It would be much shorter if not for a group of freepers who love Laura and love her book decided to try to make a stand here for her.

649 posted on 05/14/2010 5:37:36 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Enjoy the communist in the White House. A gift from the RINOS.

Hear hear, you're preaching to the coir brother!

650 posted on 05/14/2010 5:37:41 AM PDT by genetic homophobe
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