Posted on 05/18/2010 9:25:22 PM PDT by chatter4
Here is a real mess, that is much more confusing than Obama's ineligiblity.
It has occurred to me that Mitt Romney, may not be a natural born citizen, and may not even be a US citizen. I'll give the facts as I know them, and let you all research the Immigration Laws.
When Congress started cracking down on polygamy, Miles Park Romney (Mitt Romney's great-grandfather) and many other families, left the United States, 5 March 1885, moved to Mexico and began their own settlement.
Mitt Romney's paternal grandfather Gaskell Romney (18711955), fathered George Wilcken Romney, however, remained in Mexico until events during the Mexican Revolution forced his family to move back to the United States, when his son was still young. The year they moved back is unknown, but, the revolution started in 1910.
Mitt Romney's father, George Wilcken Romney (July 8, 1907 July 26, 1995) was born in Colonia Dublán, Galeana, in the Mexican state of Chihuahua one of the Mormon colonies in Mexico on July 8, 1907.
Here is the core issue. Under today's immigration law, Gaskell Romney would be considered a US citizen, because both of his parents were citizens, both of whom, did live for a while in the United States, however, his son, George Wilcken Romney was born in Mexico, to US citizen parents who had not yet spent one day on US soil. So exactly what was George Wilcken Romney true citizenship status? I believe that he would have been required to apply for naturalization, but he did not. How can Mitt Romney be considered a natural born citizen, when his father was possibly an illegal alien , and not a US citizen?
Only the 2nd? I'm expecting a merger of FR with InfoWars.
“So you think that McCain would have been blocked from the Presidency if he had been elected as the Republican President of the United States, I doubt it.”
Wasn’t it taken up in Congress and determined McCain was deemed to be qualified?
(...and I read the Congressional Record about his father, and CR is NOT law or definitive at all. They can scan Wheaties box pictures into the CR).
From what I read, it was never brought up during the campaigns as a serious challenge to George Romney’s eligibility. Mitt Romney is eligible, born on US soil to two citizen parents.
The CR indicates that “natural born” meant “native born.”
Let’s keep this thing going. Sooner or later the State-run media will pick up on this and give it legs. After all, it is all about a Republican who may or may not be a natural born citizen. If we stay on this long enough and work hard enough, we can have a “60-minutes” type show do a special segment on their investigation into Romney.
Utah became a state in 1896, the romneys left in 1885, so were not US citizens. Mitt would be an anchor baby. It’s a real technicality but people have been executed on technicalities. The Constitution, love it or delete it!
Well -- that settles that.
Next ---
NYT headline”Romney anchor baby from Mexican illegals”, they will use it if he gets the nomination.
ping
Romney aides bogus badges: Sources detail illegal security tactic
" Boston Herald - Friday, July 20, 2007
In an apparent violation of the law, a controverisal aide to ex-Gov. Mitt Romney
created phony law enforcement badges that he and other staffers used on the campaign trail
to strong-arm reporters, avoid paying tolls and trick security guards
into giving them immediate access to campaign venues, sources told the Herald.
They (the aides) knew the badges were fake and probably illegal,
said a presidential campaign source who asked for anonymity
because the story could damage the individuals career.
Two additional sources confirmed that the badges - described as bright silver plates with a state seal attached -
were first created and used by Garrity while Romney was still governor."
FAKE TROOPER (and Chief of Operations)
More here - Romney aide is the focus of probe
Romney aide accused of faking badges
Gaskell and George Romney were born in Utah—1871 and 1873. Utah became a State long after they moved to Mexico. They were not US citizens nor were their children. Mitt’s father George was born in Mexico and the family moved to Utah well after Utah had become a state. Mitt is an anchor baby,and his parents apparently never even became naturalized citizens.
I know this is crazy but if Mitt fell on his sword and made a really BIG deal about the fact that he was not a Natural born citizen because his father was not technically a citizen it would really turn attention on to bo’s pedigree.We know that there is no honor among real politicians and even less courage,their egos always seem to get in the way.OK, I’m going back to the SYFY channel now!
I don’t think it would. When the Rats had a Congressman who was having sex with a male underage intern, they circled the wagons and the press went, “Well la-de-dah.” When a Republican was caught making suggestive test messages to an intern that was a legal adult, the press covered it until he resigned from congress.
The press will never cover Obama negatively. If Romney fell on his sword, they would hammer him until his political career was destroyed, but nothing will ever drag them into investigating the Bamster’s background. Nothing.
They learned their lesson with Lewinski and Clinton. They let themselves get dragged into reporting the absolute least they could on the affair. This legitimized it to the people who don’t pay much attention and allowed the story to gain traction. Their new tactic is that no matter what the evidence, they will pretend negative information about Obama does not exist.
For them, it’s all about helping Obama achieve his objectives and throwing everything else down the memory hole.
It would help.
Imagine Romney actually helping.
No one else can.
Imagine Romney taking responsibility.
No one else can.
“Birtherism is mutating...”
After all the money and effort the Bamtard has spent keeping his supposed Hawaiian birth certificate out of the public view, you still don’t suspect he has a reason for hiding it?
Why would he go to all that trouble when he could make so many enemies look ridiculous just by releasing it? If, of course, it’s on the up-and-up. Instead, he has reportedly spent in the neighborhood of a million simoleons on attorney fees.
Those are not the actions of a man with nothing to hide.
Quixotic argument. Find another windmill. Citizenship is irrelevant. See 0bama.
0bama isn't a NBC.
McCain isn't a NBC.
Pawlenty isn't a NBC.
Romney isn't a NBC.
I heard one go on about how a NBC was a child, born in America of two NBC’s. I mean why not, as long as you are making up a definition! Only problem with that one is you would have to hunt up the vanishingly few Americans who do not have a grandparent or great-grandparent or great to the nth power grandparent who was naturalized as a citizen, and make them run for President (and ensure they only mate with other NBC’s before they go extinct).
Between the UFO kooks and the birthers, this site has its fill of fruits and nuts.
“Utah became a state in 1896, the romneys left in 1885, so were not US citizens. Mitt would be an anchor baby. Its a real technicality but people have been executed on technicalities. The Constitution, love it or delete it!”
I agree with you and I don’t consider myself a flake or nut.
However, We,as good Americans,should prove our Candidates are NBC to the same extent that we would expect the Dems to prove their Candidates eligibility. You either support the Constitution or you don’t.
“Utah became a state in 1896, the romneys left in 1885, so were not US citizens. Mitt would be an anchor baby. Its a real technicality but people have been executed on technicalities. The Constitution, love it or delete it!”
I agree with you and I don’t consider myself a flake or nut.
However, We,as good Americans,should prove our Candidates are NBC to the same extent that we would expect the Dems to prove their Candidates eligibility. You either support the Constitution or you don’t.
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