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Obama Risks a Domestic Military Intervention
TPM ^ | 5/1/109 | John L. Perry

Posted on 05/19/2010 11:22:07 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun

There is a remote, although gaining, possibility America's military will intervene as a last resort to resolve the "Obama problem." Don't dismiss it as unrealistic.

America isn't the Third World. If a military coup does occur here it will be civilized. That it has never happened doesn't mean it wont. Describing what may be afoot is not to advocate it. So, view the following through military eyes:

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: bhodod; certifigate; constitution; coup; doitnow; eligibility; fifth100days; intervention; marxism; military; naturalborncitizen; obama; spreadthewealth; troops; uncoupdetat; zot
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To: stuartcr; Colvin

Agreed - it would never happen.


51 posted on 05/19/2010 11:41:55 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: MrB

Let’s hope we never have to find out.


52 posted on 05/19/2010 11:42:42 AM PDT by XRdsRev (New Jersey - Crossroads of the American Revolution)
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To: OldDeckHand; anniegetyourgun
MSNBC (Mathews, Olberman , Schultz, and Maddow) absolutely loves to talk about stuff like this, Matthews is still in a tizzy because Rush calls it the Obama regime, even though Mathews called the prior a Bush regime .

I know: say there is going to be an intervention over his birth certificate...that would get them going.

53 posted on 05/19/2010 11:42:49 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: anniegetyourgun

So Who is John L. Perry?

October 01, 2009

Yesterday, an article by one John L. Perry appeared very briefly on the Newsmax web page purporting to advocate a military coup against the Obama administration. Tom Maguire called "the silliest thing I read today, or maybe this year."  The article was very quickly taken down, but in the meantime lefties were up in arms hollering treason. 

SoCal Voice ranted, John L. Perry should be arrested and convicted for advocating overthrow of Government.

On Tuesday, September 29th, GOP wingnut John L. Perry wrote a piece on Newsmax advocating for a violent military coup to “resolve the Obama problem.”

Under the headline Pulled NewsMax Article: Right Wing Fantasy Gone Mad, The Daily Banter raved,

The pulled NewsMax article imagining a military coup in the United States really is a riot to read. While it is of course utterly offensive and would have probably led to the writers death in most other countries, it provides a fascinating insight into the mind of a socially dysfunctional fantasist.

At his blog Dissenting Justice Professor Darren Hutchinson wrote, Rightwingnut John Perry Fantasizes About a "Military Coup" to Eliminate President Obama. The professor also offered a link to Perry's Newsmax bio as if to prove it.  Imagine my surprise at finding this:

Perry also has had a distinguished career in public policy. He served President Lyndon B. Johnson as deputy under secretary of commerce and was a White House speech writer and race-relations trouble-shooter for President Johnson.

In the Jimmy Carter administration, he was executive assistant to the under secretary of Housing and Urban Development and was interim director of public information for the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

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Perry was also assistant to the president of the National Association of Broadcasters, a member of the top-management team and director of public relations for the 1982 World’s Fair in Knoxville, Tenn., and an academic fellow at the Center for the Study of Democratic Institutions in Santa Barbara, Calif.

My emphasis above.  Turns out John L. Perry was a member of the Johnson administration, the Carter administration, and the Center for the Study of Democratic Institutions.  Right wing?  GOP?  Wikipedia had this to say about the Center:

The Center for the Study of Democratic Institutions in Santa Barbara, California was an important think tank from 1959 to 1977, declining in influence thereafter. The Center held discussions in a variety of areas that it hoped would influence public deliberation. It attained some controversy with its conference of student radical leaders in 1967, and with a suggested new United States Constitution proposed by Fellow Rexford G. Tugwell.

And just how right wing is a think tank that entertained a theory that the U.S. needs a new Constitution? 

With the popularity of Obama's health care plan sinking like a rock, lefties are in a panic.  They've long since passed the point where anyone who opposes anything Obama is labeled racist, or unpatriotic, or both.  They blame talk radio for stirring up the opposition, and they've been looking at ways to shut it down. 

In John L. Perry I believe we have a lefty who's found his chance to make a difference.  There's no military coup or any other kind of coup going on, and certainly "no right: wing coup.  Our bloodless coups are scheduled ever four years.  We call them elections.  But aside from 2006 and 2008, lefties haven't been doing all that well.  It's Rush Limbaugh's fault. 

So along comes John L. Perry with his wild speculation on the chances for a military coup.  I suspect he's doing his part to build the case for curbing talk radio.  In the interest of national security, of course

54 posted on 05/19/2010 11:42:59 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Mark for later.


55 posted on 05/19/2010 11:43:31 AM PDT by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: sickoflibs
But just to be on the safe side, get your "Fanner 50" ready! lol


56 posted on 05/19/2010 11:43:40 AM PDT by Dem Guard ("We're Coming to Take You Away")
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To: ReneeLynn

Certainly those people (and Obama himself) must know there’s no way conservatives would ever rally for such a thing...under any circumstances.


57 posted on 05/19/2010 11:43:52 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

Ombama needs to be removed from office and tried for treason.


58 posted on 05/19/2010 11:44:04 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: TexasCajun

“The soft revolution begins in Nov.”

And the ‘HARD’ one starts?


59 posted on 05/19/2010 11:44:53 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: anniegetyourgun

It’s only justified if he usurps the elections in some material way. If we re prevented from asserting majority will at the ballot box. Violence, revolt, etc, are all instantly justified. (IE,, Hugo making himself president for life)

If we have free elections and simply can’t win, revolt will never reestablish freedom. Because if you can’t win in a free ballot, and take over with the rifle, why would you ever hold the next scheduled election you are sure to lose?

And that is why such governments become authoritarian. Only a direct prevention of free elections justifies this. (and ACORN democrat fraud is a true step in that direction)


60 posted on 05/19/2010 11:45:02 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Noumenon
Obama Risks a Domestic Military Intervention

I pray for this each and every day.

You pray Psalms 109:8 daily too, eh? ;-)

61 posted on 05/19/2010 11:45:30 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: XRdsRev

“Let’s hope we never have to find out.”

We will!


62 posted on 05/19/2010 11:45:31 AM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Is Burt Lancaster involved?


63 posted on 05/19/2010 11:45:35 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: anniegetyourgun
I think there is a strong possibility that more officers will demand that 0bama provide proof that he is eligible for the office he occupies. This would include members of law enforcement such as the Secret Service and the FBI, as well as, the military.
64 posted on 05/19/2010 11:45:38 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (The 0bama regime represents an "Clear and Present Danger" to the US - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Star Traveler

That explains it.


65 posted on 05/19/2010 11:45:51 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

Starts with no AF1, no Marine 1 trips. No free golf.


66 posted on 05/19/2010 11:45:55 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: anniegetyourgun

“Certainly those people (and Obama himself) must know there’s no way conservatives would ever rally for such a thing...under any circumstances.”

I sense that you advocate it. Well, you won’t get me to advocate it. We still DO have elections. This is reactionary nonsense.


67 posted on 05/19/2010 11:47:17 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: darkside321
Sorry but a military coup would make america like the third world. It´s still a democratic republic!

Ah... sorry, mate, but I believe it is a Constitutional Republic.

68 posted on 05/19/2010 11:47:22 AM PDT by Utilizer (What does not kill you... -can sometimes damage you QUITE severely.)
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To: DesertRhino

He’s not stupid....a rigged election would never be conducted openly. Besides, I’m not convinced Obama even needs to rig elections in this country.


69 posted on 05/19/2010 11:47:34 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: The Sons of Liberty

That’s about as likely as a coup!


70 posted on 05/19/2010 11:48:17 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Dem Guard
See #53 too
71 posted on 05/19/2010 11:48:49 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: Star Traveler

Great post!


72 posted on 05/19/2010 11:49:12 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: Perdogg
This is rubbish. We have him on the ropes and stupid talk like this does nothing but make him popular.

NOT Rubbish! Two of us heard this being discussed in a booth behind ours in a diner. Nuff said. Don't even ask ... just don't totally dismiss it, my friend.

73 posted on 05/19/2010 11:49:17 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (http://www.thepatriotsflag.com - The Patriot's Flag)
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To: anniegetyourgun
There is a remote, although gaining, possibility America's military will intervene as a last resort to resolve the "Obama problem." Don't dismiss it as unrealistic.

Fine, I'll dismiss it as preposterous and a serious insult to the character of the US military. The US military is far too professional and too well-disciplined to ever descend to the level of some banana-republic army. Obama is the elected president of the US and the commander-in-chief of those military forces. He will leave office when we vote him out in 2012.
74 posted on 05/19/2010 11:50:27 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: ReneeLynn

We may not ADVOCATE it..but it may become NECESSARY to take back our country! I still say do not doubt that there will be rampant election fraud to keep the Marxists in the White House.


75 posted on 05/19/2010 11:50:48 AM PDT by SandyLynn
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To: Paladin2

Da plane!, Da plane!!, is broken.


76 posted on 05/19/2010 11:51:31 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: anniegetyourgun

Annie, 85% of what is happening right now was considered “unrealistic” a couple of generations ago. Granted we have never had to consider anything like this before but to ignore the possibility is to invite it. I believe there was an ill-planned and unpopular move toward a military coup during the FDR administration. Very few people ever even heard about it but consider how history might have been changed if it had succeeded.

Remember; All civilizations and all nations fall... eventually. The bigger the nation or the more entrenched the civilization, the harder the fall. The United States of America is not immune to this rule.


77 posted on 05/19/2010 11:51:43 AM PDT by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: Doc Savage

Won’t happen.

Colonel, USAFR


78 posted on 05/19/2010 11:53:27 AM PDT by jagusafr (Don't make deals with pirates)
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To: ReneeLynn

I don’t advocate it, because we haven’t even taken reasonable steps to resist the Obama agenda. Seems we would employ those tactics first, but I’m not convinced there is any stomach even for those steps.


79 posted on 05/19/2010 11:53:35 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

“The US military is far too professional and too well-disciplined to ever descend to the level of some banana-republic army.”

That’s what was said about the Wehrmacht in the 1930’s too. They jumped right into the abyss.


80 posted on 05/19/2010 11:54:23 AM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: sickoflibs

Yep, I just can’t bring myself to watch Olbermann. I might be able to stomach a transcript of his show to scan but the guy makes my skin curl just looking at him. (It would be
easier for me to have a picture of my ex on desk than looking at this guy.) lol


81 posted on 05/19/2010 11:54:40 AM PDT by Dem Guard ("We're Coming to Take You Away")
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To: jagusafr

Colonel..what is your perception as to what the military really thinks of this administration?


82 posted on 05/19/2010 11:55:02 AM PDT by SandyLynn
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To: oldfart

How true.


83 posted on 05/19/2010 11:55:07 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

ping


84 posted on 05/19/2010 11:55:38 AM PDT by unkus
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To: albie

There is not going to be a military coup to remove Obama.

But..... If 0 federalizes the AZ guard to intervene with the enforcement of the new AZ law.

Well, its anybody’s guess where that road goes. Don’t forget... This type of thing happened in the 1950s when Eisenhower ordered the guard to enforce the integration of Central High School on Little Rock, AR.

I don’t think AZ will back down as easy as the Governor of AR did.


85 posted on 05/19/2010 11:55:38 AM PDT by NeverForgetBataan
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To: anniegetyourgun

I call Bovine Fecal Mattah on this one!

They might be sent in to clean up the mess after the fact, but I don’t see our military initiating a new Civil War! For EITHER side!

SFC, US Army (Ret)


86 posted on 05/19/2010 11:56:22 AM PDT by NCDragon (If you can't stand behind the troops, try standing in front of them!)
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To: Utilizer

Ah... sorry, mate, but I believe it is a Constitutional Republic.


Really? But then again who cares since i don´t live there ;-) But jokes aside! Fact is when i think about the US i think about a democratic country (It´s not so important for me how the exact form of definition is).
But i admit you are correct.
Cia world factbook says: Constitution-based federal republic; strong democratic tradition

greetings


87 posted on 05/19/2010 11:56:31 AM PDT by darkside321
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To: RexBeach
Is Burt Lancaster involved?

Preakness Pool?!?

88 posted on 05/19/2010 11:57:30 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: anniegetyourgun; Perdogg; darkside321; happyathome; God luvs America; MrB; sickoflibs; henkster; ...
It would seem in the following thread, below (and in other threads, too), that a considerable number of FReepers think that either an armed revolution is going to occur, or the total collapse of society in this country and/or perhaps military invention.

It seems that I'm reading about this kind of stuff, quite a bit, here on Free Republic, in that FReepers consider it a good liklihood of happening, actually ...

ALSO..., when you read the "birther threads" ... you'll hear advocates for taking out Obama militarily ... just like this, too. In fact, I don't doubt that some of those "birthers" show up here saying the same thing and confirming this ... LOL ...



Dow Theorist: Sell Everything Liquid, You Won't Recognize America By The End Of The Year


89 posted on 05/19/2010 11:58:09 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: anniegetyourgun

how can people who supposedly believe in the constitution and this country’s institutions ever support the idea of a military coup?

the last thing I ever want to see in this country is rule by some wannabe banana republic military junta.


90 posted on 05/19/2010 11:58:39 AM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: anniegetyourgun

What do you call ‘reasonable steps’? I see Tea Parties and voter turnout ousting the old guard Dems. And a fed up country. We’ll see in November if we haven’t taken reasonable steps.


91 posted on 05/19/2010 11:58:57 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: darkside321

He is not eligible to assume the presidency under Art II Section 1. That is the basis for any action. Especially since everyone else is cowards.
I took an oath to protect and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. That does not make this country a third world one. Our oath is unique in the military structure of the world and precludes ever becoming a third world nation.


92 posted on 05/19/2010 12:00:16 PM PDT by spookie (SPOOKIE)
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To: Boston Blackie

Yes! And it should would be fun to collect those love letters from Ava Gardner.

Whoa!


93 posted on 05/19/2010 12:00:30 PM PDT by RexBeach
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To: anniegetyourgun

TPM is far out there on the left. It has been used for policy shaping and coordination between the various leftwing outlets.

Sounds like the demonization they’ve been running against everything right of center.

Of course, it may mean they’re preparing to “protect” the administration.


94 posted on 05/19/2010 12:00:56 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: ReneeLynn

Thanks, but I also note that we do have quite a few FReepers who pretty much advocate the same thing, in that the military should take Obama out of office, as they are our last line of defense and that we have to do this in order to “preserve the Constitution” (you know... violate the Constitution in order to preserve it ... :-) ...).

I’m not an advocate of that, I’m just saying that people here are advocating that sort of thing and that it’s necessary with Obama and that they are getting ready for an “Armed Revolution” in which (if they have to) they will actually be fighting some of these same military that we are talking about here — and yes... these Freepers are serious, according to what they say ...

Just sayin’ — that’s all... and I don’t support that idea ... at all ... :-)


95 posted on 05/19/2010 12:01:28 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: darkside321

Back to ya, mate! *cheeky grin*


96 posted on 05/19/2010 12:01:36 PM PDT by Utilizer (What does not kill you... -can sometimes damage you QUITE severely.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to an electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can survive a Barack Obama It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.” — Author Unknown


97 posted on 05/19/2010 12:02:23 PM PDT by unkus
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To: NCDragon

I have my doubts too...but intervention could occur should he and his theatre of the bizarre order “troops” to begin a round-up of or fire on citizens.


98 posted on 05/19/2010 12:02:26 PM PDT by cbkaty (Never yield to force. Never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy---W Churchill)
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To: Star Traveler

Throughout history, there have been those that say the world is ending and those that say it isn’t...just pick a side and wait, maybe it will before you die, maybe it won’t.


99 posted on 05/19/2010 12:03:12 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: Star Traveler

442 comments on that thread now.

It had over 150 in the first hour, IIRC.

I think most people have this “uneasy feeling that there is going to be a major negative change in lifestyle soon”.

I’ve heard this expressed from various and disparate information sources.


100 posted on 05/19/2010 12:03:16 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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