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Author of Arizona Immigration Law Wants To End Birthright Citizenship
YahooNews ^ | May 22nd 2010

Posted on 05/21/2010 5:25:38 PM PDT by Steelfish

Author of Arizona Immigration Law Wants To End Birthright Citizenship

The author of Arizona's immigration law, state Sen. Russell Pearce, told constituents he wants to pass another measure to invalidate citizenship granted to the children of illegal aliens. Pearce wrote that he plans to "push for an Arizona bill that would refuse to accept or issue a birth certificate that recognizes citizenship to those born to illegal aliens, unless one parent is a citizen," in an email obtained by Phoenix CBS affiliate KPHO.

Pearce also forwarded an email from another correspondent expanding on the proposal — which he later told KPHO he didn't agree with. "If we are going to have an effect on the anchor baby racket, we need to target the mother. Call it sexist, but that's the way nature made it. Men don't drop anchor babies, illegal alien mothers do," the email said. Pearce did tell the CBS affiliate, however, that he didn't see anything wrong with using the term "anchor baby" to refer to natural-born U.S. citizens.

Last year, 92 Congressmen sponsored a bill that would change the 14th Amendment so that children of illegal aliens born in the United States would not be granted citizenship. The bill is still in committee. Last month, Rep. Duncan Hunter of California told a tea party rally he would support deporting children of illegal aliens, even if they are citizens.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 14thamendment; 2late; aliens; anchorbabies; arizona; jackpotbabies
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1 posted on 05/21/2010 5:25:38 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

This guy rocks. He should run for President. Awesome.

Florida RINO Repubs by contrast are cowards, fairies, mommies boys and madecons.


2 posted on 05/21/2010 5:27:34 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain/Graham = La Raza's Senators)
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To: Steelfish
This guy needs to run for President. Seriously!
3 posted on 05/21/2010 5:29:54 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Frantzie
I have been waiting a long time for someone to put an end to this racket.
We are being used as fools and I for one am sick and tired of it!
4 posted on 05/21/2010 5:30:28 PM PDT by mickie
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To: Steelfish

Do it!!! Do away with that ‘dual citizenship’ BS too!

“Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.”

Senator Jacob Howard,
co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.


5 posted on 05/21/2010 5:31:34 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Steelfish

It’s time someone else takeover as outhouse to the world. Arizonans are tired of it.


6 posted on 05/21/2010 5:31:56 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Kiss my AZ!!!)
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To: Steelfish; cowboyway; central_va; dcwusmc; MagnoliaB; Cvengr; southernsunshine; Salamander; ...

Ping


7 posted on 05/21/2010 5:32:09 PM PDT by Idabilly (I'm tired of being Johnny B Good and I'm Gonna be Johnny Reb)
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To: Steelfish

Keep it going, baby!

You have 70+% of the USA behind you!

This is a GREAT idea whose time has come!


8 posted on 05/21/2010 5:32:59 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The frog who accepts a ride from a scorpion should expect a sting and the phrase "it is my nature.")
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To: Steelfish

Absolutely awesome! Arizona is kickin!


9 posted on 05/21/2010 5:33:42 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: FlingWingFlyer
outhouse to the world

Love it! LOL!

10 posted on 05/21/2010 5:34:29 PM PDT by doc1019 (Rush, Beck and others are giving us the dots; it is up to us to connect them.)
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To: Steelfish

So overdue. If they do that they’ll all leave the state which will force other states to finally come to grips with the problem.


11 posted on 05/21/2010 5:35:37 PM PDT by wiggen (Government owned slave.)
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To: freedumb2003

why not just get a supreme court ruling on it.


12 posted on 05/21/2010 5:36:02 PM PDT by edcoil (RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE.)
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To: freedumb2003
Yeah, to bad we can't get this POS gov. of ours here in Texas to follow suit.

Shhhhhhh, don't let anyone know, but Perry's gonna run for president in 2012.....don't wanna make any waves ya know.

Gotta play up to the Hispanic voter.

RINO big time this guy Perry is.

13 posted on 05/21/2010 5:36:29 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Steelfish

Not a new idea, but a good idea.

http://www.taxpayerrevolution.org/


14 posted on 05/21/2010 5:37:02 PM PDT by research99
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To: Steelfish
LONG OVER DUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
15 posted on 05/21/2010 5:39:13 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Even Hitler had Government run health care, but at least he got the Olympics for Germany)
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To: Frantzie

What are madecons?


16 posted on 05/21/2010 5:39:48 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Steelfish

BUMP!!!


17 posted on 05/21/2010 5:40:46 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Steelfish
92 Congressmen sponsored a bill that would change the 14th Amendment

You do not have to change the 14th Amendment to do this. All you have to do is pass a law.

The key phrase is "subject to the laws there of".

18 posted on 05/21/2010 5:42:00 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Even Hitler had Government run health care, but at least he got the Olympics for Germany)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
What are madecons?

Residents of Madeco? Or would that be Madecians?

19 posted on 05/21/2010 5:44:35 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Even Hitler had Government run health care, but at least he got the Olympics for Germany)
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To: Steelfish

Yes! let’s go all the way. Let’s finish this now once and for all.

Go AZ ! I’ve heard there are many states behind you and may soon
enact the same law.


20 posted on 05/21/2010 5:45:04 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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To: Steelfish

Great idea. Unfortunately we had 8 years of GOP leadership, several with majorities in both houses, and we didn’t do a thing, unless you count recklessy spending our way into the minority. We did that well. I hope the Tea Party scares the survivors of the coming purge so badly they will actually do something substantial.


21 posted on 05/21/2010 5:45:16 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: AuntB
Do it!!! Do away with that ‘dual citizenship’ BS too!

I'm OK with US citizens acquiring a second citizenship for a reasonable purpose, such as business or family ties in the second country. US citizenship, however, should only be granted as a second citizenship to foreign nationals under very specific circumstances where a benefit can be shown to the US from doing so.

22 posted on 05/21/2010 5:47:04 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: servantboy777

I think I’ll let Perry know this is one couple that won’t be voting for him if he does run. Who do we have that is electable?


23 posted on 05/21/2010 5:47:16 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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To: Steelfish

Please let it be. America would be a much better place if this right was rescinded.


24 posted on 05/21/2010 5:51:26 PM PDT by Carley (WE CAN SEE NOVEMBER FROM OUR HOUSE)
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To: Steelfish

We can’t stop...he’s right. We’ve been marginalized for years.. WE ARE THE MAJORITY and we will be silent no longer. ... Arizona is kicking ass and taking names and I’ve never been more proud of my State...ARIZONA!!! WOOHOO!!!


25 posted on 05/21/2010 5:56:05 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Steelfish
Harris Sherline: 8/15/09

snip..

In “Nearly All Wealthy and Emerging Nations Have Eliminated Birthright Citizenship — We Should, Too” in Business Week on July 24, Roy Beck, executive director of NumbersUSA, wrote: “Maternity tourism is just the beginning of the silliness of birthright citizenship that goes to the babies of foreign students, temporary foreign workers, international travelers — and the millions who break the law to criminally enter this country. ...

This is a huge impediment to efforts to stabilize U.S. population to allow for environmental sustainability. And it is a great incentive for more illegal immigration.

Each of these babies becomes an anchor who retards deportation of unlawfully present parents — and who eventually will be an anchor for entire families and villages as chain migration leads to the immigration of grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins.

Birthright citizenship is an antiquated practice that has been abandoned by nearly all wealthy nations and emerging nations (recently India and Indonesia) and by the majority of poor nations.”

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26 posted on 05/21/2010 5:57:42 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Hildy

I love our state of Arizona! Who would of thought that we would be on the frontlines of taking America back? Who is going to join us?


27 posted on 05/21/2010 5:57:56 PM PDT by AZMike2010
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To: Steelfish

Sen. Russell Pearce is right on this - it’s uncommon common sense.


28 posted on 05/21/2010 6:03:34 PM PDT by GOPJ (...man was meant to be doubtful about himself, but undoubting about the truth-Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: Steelfish

Does anybody seriously believe that passing an Arizona law can deprive anyone of US Citizenship?


29 posted on 05/21/2010 6:05:12 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: Steelfish

Go Arizona!


30 posted on 05/21/2010 6:07:49 PM PDT by TigersEye (0basma's father was a British subject. He can't be a "natural-born" citizen.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

That has direct consequence for me.

Should I give up my Canadian citizenship to obtain an American one? I am a foreign national, but I have family ties up here.


31 posted on 05/21/2010 6:11:24 PM PDT by BenKenobi (I want to hear more about Sam! Samwise the stouthearted!)
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To: BenKenobi

I know another guy who is planning to do that for business reasons - but he is still waiting for an opinion from his lawyers since the corporate tax rate is so much higher in the USA.


32 posted on 05/21/2010 6:14:15 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Eh, it’s not the money that concerns me but travelling back up to Canada should I give up my citizenship. I’m more than happy to pay US taxes.


33 posted on 05/21/2010 6:17:09 PM PDT by BenKenobi (I want to hear more about Sam! Samwise the stouthearted!)
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To: GOPJ

He’s got my 10 votes...!!!!!!


34 posted on 05/21/2010 6:26:18 PM PDT by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: Steelfish

WTF? Some of these comments are absurd. This is so clearly unconstitutional it’s disgusting.

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

If you support this, you ARE NOT a constitutionalist, plain and simple.


35 posted on 05/21/2010 6:33:07 PM PDT by Conservativism
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To: Steelfish

bookmark


36 posted on 05/21/2010 6:36:37 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: Steelfish

an Arizona bill that would refuse to accept or issue a birth certificate that recognizes citizenship to those born to illegal aliens, unless one parent is a citizen,”

I’ve been waiting 30 years for this return to sanity.

NO OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD has this .........


37 posted on 05/21/2010 6:44:24 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Steelfish

By Golly ! A Politician with a brain. He must have seen the Wizard.


38 posted on 05/21/2010 6:48:29 PM PDT by dbrew2u
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To: Conservativism

The 14th Amendment is not the original Constitution. It is an Act of Congress.


39 posted on 05/21/2010 6:48:59 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: Steelfish
Pearce wrote that he plans to "push for an Arizona bill that would refuse to accept or issue a birth certificate that recognizes citizenship to those born to illegal aliens, unless one parent is a citizen," in an email obtained by Phoenix CBS affiliate KPHO.

That one won't work. I mean if someone is born here, it's a matter of record if they are or not -- and that's all it is. I looked at my birth certificate and it doesn't say that I'm a U.S. citizen, but it does say I was born in Oklahoma ... LOL ...

As to whether they are citizens or not, being born on U.S. soil, that's a legal matter for the country that the states can't affect. To pursue that matter, it will take legislators in Congress to do something about it.

It's one thing to enforce the existing laws about illegal immigrants and also to make sure they are legal (like Arizona in checking on an individual's status), but I don't see an individual state declaring that a baby born in the state is not a citizen -- making it past the first court challenge ... :-)

40 posted on 05/21/2010 6:54:46 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Steelfish

Hear, hear!

The words “...and subject to their jurisdiction,...” is the centerpiece of this debate.

Citizens and naturalized aliens ARE subject to the jurisdiction and laws of the United States. Those who crossed the border in the dark and hide from ICE and Border Patrol vehicles are NOT subject to our jurisdiction. They run! Heck, they don’t live under ANY jurisdiction!

Therefore, the children of those not subject to U.S. jurisdiction, despite their being born within the boundaries of the United States, are NOT instant citizens. Feel no guilt about denying citizenship to those who aren’t qualified to receive it.

The 14th Amendment (ratified in 1868, soon after the Civil War) was adopted to ensure the citizenship of ex-slaves and their families. Read the Amendment again with that in mind.


41 posted on 05/21/2010 6:56:01 PM PDT by DNME (Prepare, quickly. The time grows short.)
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To: edcoil
“why not just get a supreme court ruling on it.”

My non-lawyer understanding is that the Supremes can't make “advisory opinions” or in other words opinions on requrest on matters that are not the result of a genuine cause or controversy brought by one party against another.

If AZ were to pass such an anti-anchor baby statute it would almost surely provoke a genuine case that could reach the Supremes.

42 posted on 05/21/2010 7:24:02 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: LucyT; STARWISE; melancholy; rxsid; BP2

AZ anti-anchor baby statute ping...


43 posted on 05/21/2010 7:26:48 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Yeah but apparently what the GOP didn’t know then was that when your the party in power you can trample the constitution into the ground to get whatever you want done and screw what the people say and get away with it.

Obama and his cronies started a whole new ball game with ALL NEW RULES. And aparently Arizona is playing by the new rules:) Its great to see it working for our side for once.


44 posted on 05/21/2010 7:34:24 PM PDT by annelizly
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I believe it is a colloquial form of maricon, Spanish for fag.


45 posted on 05/21/2010 8:29:30 PM PDT by Defiant (Were Democrats always marxist, or did Barry convert them all in the past two years?)
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To: Steelfish

Would be a wonderful way for them not to have to foot the medical bills for prego illegals! Won’t do them any good to drop the anchor in AZ.


46 posted on 05/21/2010 8:38:29 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Michael.SF.

Yep all they need to do is say children of citizens and legal permanent residents will be granted birthright citizenship all else will be denied.


47 posted on 05/21/2010 8:41:20 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: chris_bdba

sad is it not that, that is all it will take, yet even members of Congress do not realize this fact?


48 posted on 05/21/2010 10:12:35 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Even Hitler had Government run health care, but at least he got the Olympics for Germany)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


49 posted on 05/21/2010 10:22:32 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Illegal is a Crime, it is not a Race ~)
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To: freedumb2003

“Keep it going, baby!

You have 70+% of the USA behind you!”

AMEN. I’m going to call his office on Monday and thank him for ALL of his efforts! This is a someone I could get behind as a candidate for ANY office! We are LONG overdue and must put an end to the OBL.


50 posted on 05/21/2010 10:44:33 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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