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U.S. Reverses Stance On Treaty to Regulate Arms Trade
Reuters ^

Posted on 05/23/2010 1:53:45 PM PDT by Fight4Freedom1

Edited on 05/23/2010 2:13:21 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the United States would support the talks as long as the negotiating forum, the so-called Conference on the Arms Trade Treaty, "operates under the rules of consensus decision-making."


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; ammo; banglist; guns; regulatearmssales

1 posted on 05/23/2010 1:53:45 PM PDT by Fight4Freedom1
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To: shibumi; humblegunner; Eaker

Ping the usual suspects.

Here we go.


2 posted on 05/23/2010 1:55:51 PM PDT by Salamander (You don't know what's going on inside of me. You don't wanna know what's running through my mind.)
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To: Fight4Freedom1
BAN AWAY, a**hole... to quote a REAL AMERICAN...

From my COLD DEAD HANDS ...!!!


3 posted on 05/23/2010 1:56:18 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (The one thing we learn from history is .. People REFUSE to Learn from History!!)
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To: Fight4Freedom1

Not only not now. Not EVER. Not incidentally, whether Hillary and the W-I-C personally want it, the Senate must ratify any treaty for it to be valid.


4 posted on 05/23/2010 2:00:26 PM PDT by sayuncledave
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To: Fight4Freedom1
His signature isn't enough. It has to be ratified AND it can not be unconstitutional. Since it violates the 2nd Amendment, the treaty has no validity. The commie traitor just keeps launching zingers.
5 posted on 05/23/2010 2:02:40 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Fight4Freedom1

This is an old article. I haven’t heard about it much since this came out, though.

If there’s any chance that we sign on to this treaty, I think we will be closer to another civil war in this country.


6 posted on 05/23/2010 2:04:17 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Fight4Freedom1

If this passes, these assh0les will think they tipped over a beehive. Any fooling around with gun rights in America is political suicide, no matter what the party/issue.


7 posted on 05/23/2010 2:04:29 PM PDT by GoldenPup
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To: Fight4Freedom1

I don’t think so FUBO and the camel you rode in on. To complete the coup, they must get the guns.


8 posted on 05/23/2010 2:11:45 PM PDT by mojitojoe (banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Fight4Freedom1

Behind every blade of grass...and I live on a prairie.


9 posted on 05/23/2010 2:15:14 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: sayuncledave
Not only does a treaty require a two-thirds senate majority vote but treaties that contradict the U.S. constitution can be voided. Congress always has the power to modify or repeal treaties by subsequent legislative action. Besides, this deal is in the 'talking stages' and will likely come to nothing as the U.S. is demanding a 'consensus' agreement that could give any one nation veto power. Still, it is yet another indication of the dictatorial road the Obama administration is on.

November 2nd can't come soon enough!

10 posted on 05/23/2010 2:15:35 PM PDT by Jim Scott (re much)
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To: Fight4Freedom1

Fire Hillary for even thinking of this! They just awarded us the gift to beat them in Novemebr with. You will not take our uns not now not ever.


11 posted on 05/23/2010 2:18:53 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Fight4Freedom1
How is this "news"?
Arshad Mohammed WASHINGTON Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:56pm EDT

I have been receiving this email for months.
12 posted on 05/23/2010 2:25:15 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: sayuncledave
Not only not now. Not EVER. Not incidentally, whether Hillary and the W-I-C personally want it, the Senate must ratify any treaty for it to be valid.

Hate to ruin your day, but once a treaty is signed, whether it is valid or not has little to do with whether it is likely to be enforced.

13 posted on 05/23/2010 3:11:33 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: Fight4Freedom1

For the US to be bound by any treaty, a 2/3 Majority vote by the Senate must approve the treaty. That means 67 votes in favor.

DOES ANYONE THINK THE SENATE IS STUPID ENOUGH TO VOTE OUT THE 2ND AMENDMENT? 67 Votes. Political suicide.
And CW2.
Hillary can banter around the World all she wants and sign anything to please MSM consumers.


14 posted on 05/23/2010 3:21:27 PM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Elect Chuck Purgason, US Senate, Missouri! http://www.purgasonforsenate.com/)
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To: Fight4Freedom1

Old news. From last October.


15 posted on 05/23/2010 3:23:21 PM PDT by FourPeas (God Bless America)
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To: Fight4Freedom1

Can you share the reason you chose to post an article that’s seven months old? In political terms that’s a lifetime.


16 posted on 05/23/2010 4:13:19 PM PDT by upchuck (Criminal aliens are destroying America. Look what they've done to the White House.)
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To: Fight4Freedom1

They need to disarm us before they can finish taking total control.


17 posted on 05/23/2010 5:08:05 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Fight4Freedom1

It is my understanding that it has been signed by Hillary at the UN.

http://www.tcunation.com/forum/topics/urgent-while-were-all-watching

Gunner


18 posted on 05/23/2010 5:19:47 PM PDT by weps4ret (Where is John Galt?)
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To: Fight4Freedom1
There's nothing to fear yet until the conference happens and we see the details of the potential agreement.

However, we DO need to keep an eye on developments and elect good senators as a safeguard until Bacrock the Bitch is fired in 2012.

19 posted on 05/23/2010 5:31:50 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (I don't look for leaders. I follow my own path, my way.)
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To: Fight4Freedom1

There are so called ‘gun rights’ organization that keep sending scare emails out (just like this) in order to solicit donations. Beware, I stopped sending them all money.


20 posted on 05/23/2010 6:34:14 PM PDT by George from New England (Escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: Salamander

Apparently, the Regime really, REALLY wants to start a shooting war. Not satisfied with a ‘cold civil war’ over “racism” and immigration, they want to guns to begin to boom. Mark my word, they bring in this UN Blue Helmet abomination, and they will. Oh, they will.


21 posted on 05/23/2010 7:51:51 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer ("It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." --Jefferson)
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To: Fight4Freedom1
Over my dead !@#$ing body! The first Blue Helmet that comes down my street [I]will[/I] get a 150 grain M2 FMJ Ball round right through the brain bucket from my M1 Garand. Period!
22 posted on 05/23/2010 8:15:51 PM PDT by Lancer_N3502A
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To: Salamander

U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015

May 24
Hillary Clinton Pushes for UN Small Arms Treaty

http://www.nhteapartycoalition.org/tea/2010/05/24/hillary-clinton-pushes-for-un-small-arms-treaty/

May 19
URGENT: While we’re all watching the gulf: Hillary signs UN Small Arms Treaty

http://www.tcunation.com/forum/topics/urgent-while-were-all-watching

May 18
Obama Administration Likes U.N. Gun Treaty — T.F. Stern

http://www.themoralliberal.com/2010/05/18/hillary-signed-u-n-confiscatory-gun-treaty-t-f-stern/

Dudley Brown: “Small arms treaty” is a global gun ban

http://www.nationalgunrights.org/interview.shtml

Here is a link for their spring newsletter (pdf)

http://www.nationalgunrights.org/NGN1001_SpringNewsletter.pdf

May 3
2nd Amendment vs. U.N. Small Arms Treaty

http://www.examiner.com/x-45362-Fort-Worth-Conservative-Examiner~y2010m5d3-2nd-Amendment-vs-UN-Small-Arms-Treaty

REMEMBER WHO THE TERRORISTS ARE:

http://www.constitution.org/abus/le/miac-strategic-report.pdf


23 posted on 05/27/2010 6:11:05 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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