Skip to comments.U.S. Selective Service in Obama cover-up?
Posted on 05/23/2010 4:36:17 PM PDT by Retired Intelligence Officer
Is the U.S. Selective Service System now blocking access to President Barack Obama's online registration records?
Members of the public searching the federal database for the commander in chief's registration are suddenly finding new difficulty, possibly due to the startling revelation of Obama's alleged use of a Connecticut-based Social Security Number.
The Selective Service System, or SSS, collects names of Americans for use by the Department of Defense in the event of a national emergency. On its website, it says it provides the nation "with a structure and a system of guidelines which will provide the most prompt, efficient, and equitable draft possible, if the country should need it."
The problems using the SSS search engine come in the wake of WND's disclosure that two private investigators working independently are wondering why Obama is using a Social Security Number set aside for applicants in Connecticut while there is no record he ever had a mailing address in the state.
The stunning revelation apparently prompted Internet giant Google to clamp down specifically on WND's report and warn that some sites carrying information on the situation "may harm your computer."
The Social Security website confirms the first three numbers in his ID are reserved for applicants with Connecticut addresses, 040-049.
"Since 1973, Social Security numbers have been issued by our central office," the Social Security website explains. "The first three (3) digits of a person's social security number are determined by the ZIP code of the mailing address shown on the application for a social security number."
The question is being raised amid speculation about the president's history fueled by an extraordinary lack of public documentation. Along with his original birth certificate, Obama also has not released educational records, scholarly articles, passport documents, medical records
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It IS bigger than the clintons, but clinton is the one who ultimately set it up and pulled the trigger on this. he made the deal with obama. There is HUGE money behind this.
This cabal has literally robbed the entire world blind.
If he did, that means that our President once checked the NO box to the question "Are you an American Citizen?" Doesn't that just churn your stomach??
However, wouldn't he have needed his Punahou records, his transcripts? Wouldn't he have attended Punahou as an American citizen, living with his grandparents?
Is this really it? (re: possible Obama’s Kenyan B.C. - Attny Taitz)
No doubt he is a citizen of those places, which is not his doing (IF IF IF the citizenships were obtained when he was underage). So nothing to see there. UNLESS he did ANYTHING to promote citizenship in those countries after 18. Like apply for a passport, or even a passport renewal. It would still be legal but probably would not have made him a very attractive candidate for President of the US of A!
But dual citizenship is allowed. Any country can grant you citizenship.
Did you read the article? They tested the excuse they were given - too many times accessing that number by using another # numerous times. (gov’t. employee told them 3 times was enough to make a number inaccessible for the day) The other number worked. Try it with your own and see what happens.
I know. I agree with you. He had to live in CT, and did not.
Not necessarily. His grandparents were NOT wealthy. Maybe that’s how they sent him there, some sort of foreign student deal.
thanks for the link. Good information.
This is the way his father spelled his OWN name.
I have always said long ago that this “administration”(?) looks MORE as a Clinton administration than the previous Clinton administration!!!
Dual citizenship is fine for everyone EXCEPT those who want to be President. Natural born citizenship prohibits such split allegiences.
Every single, solitary appointee in this administration has had some connection to clinton, including even van jones.
That’s what I meant when posting “recycled”!!!
Hmmmmmmmmm....maybe he had at first filed as a Conscientious Objector? or that his Muslim faith demanded that he not participate in war?
someone snuck in and changed it to ‘useless doofus’ instead?
The Sonoran News reports that it recently received 17 Selective Service records through a FOIA request filed within the same time frame as Obamas required registration. All 17 records contain a four-digit year in the date stamp on the Selective Service System Registration Form, while the same form sent to both Coffman and Allen on Obama contains a two-digit, off-center date stamp.
999-XX-XXXX are numbers issued by our government to foreign students in the U.S. receiving federal scholarships/aid.
They are valid but are not truly SSNs as they are never issued to citizens.
Interesting, eh? Neil Sankey, PI, discovered that Obama was using one while attending Occidental College.
From the Sonoran news:
“Manning was as prepared as an attorney with his line of questioning and the bullet points of my testimony, under oath, proceeded to lay out the following facts:
In an interview that aired on Sept. 7, 2008, Obama told George Stephanopoulos that he had to register for the draft when he graduated from high school.
Obama graduated from High School in 1979.
President Gerald Ford eliminated the draft in 1975.
There was no draft or Selective Service System registration in 1979.
President Carter didnt reinstate Selective Service System registration until 1980.
Obama’s Selective Service System registration card is date stamped July 29, 80 (the year was an off-centered, two-digit number without the 19) by the Makiki Post Office in Honolulu.
None of the date stamps on 17 other registrations obtained from the Selective Service System through a FOIA request were stamped with two-digit years, including two stamped at the same Makiki station where Obama allegedly registered.
Two different Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests for Obama’s selective service records were made by two different people. One request was made by retired ICE Agent J. Stephen Coffman in October 2008, while another request was made by Kenneth Allen in February 2009.
Both requests, however, were fulfilled with documents bearing computer screen dates of Sept. 9, 2008, two days after Obamas interview with Stephanopoulos aired, but several weeks to several months prior to either Coffman or Allens FOIA requests.
The FOIA request I made in December 2009 (after my initial request in October went unacknowledged) for the records of 17 others who registered with the Selective Service during the same period of time as Obama was fulfilled in late January 2010 with documents bearing computer screen dates of Jan. 15 and Jan. 20. In other words, the documents bore dates between the time I requested them and the time the request was fulfilled.
The documents that Coffman and Allen received were dated prior to eithers requests and seemingly frozen on the screen date Sept. 9, 2008, although the data was different.
The computer printout sent to Coffman reflected a Last Action Date of Sept. 4, 1980, the date Obamas original registration was theoretically entered into the computer.
Although the records sent to Allen also bore a computer screen date of Sept. 9, 2008, Allens records displayed a Last Action Date of June 25, 1991, indicating a Form 50 Letter for a change of address was entered on that date.
The DLN (Document Locator Number) on the computer printout provided to Coffman added an eight to the beginning of the number stamped on his registration form, whereas the computer printout sent to Allen added a zero to the end. DLNs do not change once issued.
Obama’s selective service registration is on file with Social Security Number 042-68-4425, a series issued in Connecticut between 1976 and 1977 and while Obama was attending high school in Hawaii.
Entering Obamas last name, the Connecticut-issued SSN and birth date of Aug. 4, 1961, I pulled up Obamas Selective Service Number: 61-1125539-1, which inexplicably links Obama to the Connecticut-issued Social Security Number, which two private investigators have attested to being issued sometime between 1976 and 1977 to another person in Connecticut that was born in 1890.”
AND if you look up the name barack the way obama spells it, you will find NO others spelled that way...except for him and how he spelled his father’s name on his COLB.
It don’t mean a damb thing in “swahili” or any other language. Barak, however, does. Yes. he is THAT stupid.
Not true. When draft registration was reinstated in 1980, they did a "catch up".
All male U.S. citizens born in 1960 were supposed to register the week of 21-26 July 1980. All those born in 1961 were supposed to register the following week, 28 July-2 August 1980. All those born in 1962 were supposed to register during the first week of January 1981. Since then, those born in 1963 and after have been supposed to register on a rolling basis, within 30 days of their 18th birthday.
Sure enough the registration form released show shows a date stamp of July 29, 1980, as the date it was turned in at the post office. Problems is, it also shows a date of July 30, 1980 as the date the from was filled out. Probably just another one of those little "means nothing" "errors" that keep cropping up in The Won's documentation.
Unlesss you watch Glenn Beck..
Does Maurice Strong ring a bell....
My Fellow Americans,
On Tuesday, 18 May 2010 in The ATLAH Court room under the sanction of the US Constitution “We The People spoke.” Mr. Obama , Michael Sovern, and the Trustees of Columbia University were found guilty on all 17 counts of Sedition, Conspiracy, Fraud, and Obstruction of Justice.
I am assembling a coalition to hand the verdicts to The Judiciary of The US Senate, The US Congress, The Joint Chiefs Of Staff, and The US Attorney General.
Specifically for Michael Sovern and Columbia University, I will be submitting to The New York State Bar, The New York State Attorney General, New York State Regents, and The Mid-Atlantic Schools Accreditation demanding their license to operate an educational institution be revoked.
Perhaps their first response will be to defend and reject. Thereupon, will begin the most exciting part of this guilty victory. Inasmuch, as we will proceed to court testing the constitutionality of the 10th Amendment established by our Founding Fathers.
I expect the courts to be careful in their decision not to injure the rights of “We The People.”
Thank you for your support, I will post and update on You Tube within 24 hours and will take a few weeks rest from the daily Manning Report.
Visit Atlah.org for all daily updates.
In His Royal Service
Rev. James David Manning, PhD
A Natural Born Citizen
1963. Although no one had to use them until '67, and then only mailers of second- and third-class bulk mail had to presort by ZIP Code. The Zip +4 was instituted in '83, but really didn't begin to be used until the end of '84.
that's because the draft was suspended when he turned 18, but then they did a catch up for those born in '60,'61 and '62.
You post #43 seems irrelaevant... Obama’s SSN was suppoedly (re)issued almost ten years after the change to the new system was adopted.
Yes. He was required to do a catch-up in 1980.
I, for one, do not believe he did so in 1980.
I read the results of that “trial”. Amazing how it’s testimonies tie into other threads posted this weekend here on Free Republic.
Yes. Do you have a link re the foreign student getting assigned a 999#? I don’t remember reading that, just the statement that no SS#’s begin with it. If true plus Stankey has proof BO used one then that’s one more PROVEN reason he is not eligible along with his Kenyan father being the other.
You need your own show!
It shows the selective service records, plus explains the procedures used by Social Security in issuing numbers.
Not quite. Before 1973, It indicated the location of the office that issued your card that was generally in your home state. After '73, when processing was centralized, it indicated the state where you, or your parents, had the card mailed to. However it was some time after that before it became routine to get a SSN for a baby. You didn't need one for dependents listed your tax return until 1987.
We know that The Won worked in a Baskin-Robbins in Hawaii, so he would have needed a SSN at that time. He graduated from high school in '79, so it would have probably been '78 or a bit earlier when he got his SSN.
So, what was he doing having it mailed to a Connecticut address? Since that was well after '73 (when he would have been 12) when the numbers shifted from being representative of the SS office that issued the card, to being tied to the mailing address on the application.
Neil Sankey, formerly employed by Scotland Yard, was hired by Orly Taitz to look into Obama’s background.
Sankey found many SSNs. The list of them was submitted as evidence in a civil trial in California over a year ago.
I don’t have any direct links but provided enough information so you can do searches. The following online sites are good places to start:
In '73, Obama turned 12. (in '71 he turned 10) In those days you did not need a SSN for a dependent. Nor for a passport. You didn't need one until you started working. So unless you think he got his job at Basking Robbins when he was 11 or 12, his number would reflect his mailing address on the application. So when did he have a CT mailing address?
“...if you have a SSN, then you are not ‘foreign’.”
That isn’t true. When I was in the Navy stationed overseas, there was a Spanish national working in the same office with me, who was a U.S. Federal employee and said she possessed a SSN number and paid SSN taxes.
You are assuming BO got his SSN Before '72. He was 11 in '72. Back then you didn't get one until you started having an income. They were not required for dependents until the mid '80s.
But nice try.
At worst you'd expect an adjacent state, if it was more convienient, such as being closer, than the SSA office in your state. But No other state is convienient to Hawaii. But that would only be until they changed the referance point from the office that issued the card to the mailing address on the application. ('73) After then, you'd need to be living in that state. Unless BO didn't get his SSN until he went to Columbia, and then for some reason had a PO box in CT, or a friends address there. But the draft registration information has him using that SSN, in 1980, when he at Occidental college, and he would have needed "a" SSN when he went to work in Hawaii, supposedly for Baskin-Robbins.
Remember that he changed the spelling of his name somewhere along the way from Barak to Barack? BO Sr., IIRC, was Barak and that is the way we see it most of the time. Why, I wonder, did BHO change it to Barack?
Hear is the lowdown again as it pertains to Coffmans FOIA request per DebSchlussel:
A friend of mine, who is a retired federal agent, spent almost a year trying to obtain this document through a Freedom of Information Act request, and, after much stonewalling, finally received it and released it to me.
But the release of Obamas draft registration and an accompanying document, posted below, raises more questions than it answers. And it shows many signs of fraud, not to mention putting the lie to Obamas claim that he registered for the draft in June 1979, before it was required by law.
* The Selective Service Data Mgt. Center Stonewalled for Almost a Year on Obama Registration, Until Right Before the Election.
The retired federal agent who FOIAd Barack Obamas Selective Service Registration Form notes:
Early this year, when I first started questioning whether Obama registered I was told:
Sir: There may be an error in his file or many other reasons why his registration cannot be confirmed on-line. However, I did confirm with our Data Management Center that he is, indeed, registered with the Selective Service System, in compliance with Federal law.
Janice L. Hughes/SSS
Then, they suddenly found the record on September 9, 2008 (prior to my October 13, 2008 request), and stated that his record was filed on September 4, 1980. Did they temporarily change the date on the computer database?
On the previous FOIA response, they stated that it was filed on September 4, 1980. In my second request I mentioned that Obama could not have filed it in Hawaii on September 4, 1980 as he was attending Occidental College in California, the classes of which commenced August 24, 1980.
Coffman posted at Obamas site during the campaign when the SS office was stone walling in releasing Obamas SS records:
Selective Service and the Draft
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In 1980, President Carter re-instituted the requirement for males to register for the Selective Service (Proclamation 4771).
Under this Senator Obama was legally required to register during July 1980.
There is no record of his registering and his campaign will not address the issue.
So how do we respond to McCain supporters who post negative remarks about Senator Obamas lack of military experience and his refusal to even register?
According to the Selective Service, approximately 23% of the males who were required to register, did not register. That means that about 800,000 failed to register that year.
Should Senator Obama make a statement about why he did not register for Selective Service?
Just makes ya go hmmm, doesn't it
This whole question about Selective Service registration gets curiouser and couriouser. Just discovered the info below and thought you would like to see it.
At The Obama File site there is a section about eligibility. I’ve provided a link but thought you’ld like to know what it is first.
It involves a copy of Obama’s selctive service application. No surprise, but he didn’t provide any identification documents, so the SS application is invalid. Because he doesn’t supply ID he isn’t eligible to hold political office, period.
No Identification - Again
Indeed, it makes me go “hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm”.
I have sent all this information to my elected officials in DC numerous times to only get a regurgitated form letter. When the name JOHN THUNE comes up as a presidential candidate in 2012..run the other way!
Really? John Thune is brain dead?
How disappointing. So is Rush Limbaugh and Bill O’Reilly. I started doing Obama background research in early February 2008. Immediately started finding emails and links to inform Rush and Bill.
They never used any of it, not at all, and I have no idea why.
What do they know about our government that we don’t know.
“Immediately started finding emails and links to inform Rush and Bill.” That should read, “Immediately started finding information and sent emails and links to inform Rush and Bill.”
So sorry for the errors.
Employment & Social Security Numbers
International students indicate on the Form I-20 that they already have support money and will not need employment. Do not count on employment to support your studies. Off-campus employment is illegal during your first nine months in student status. However, you may work on campus if jobs are available. You first must obtain a valid social security number. If you were assigned a temporary 999-99-XXXX number for use at Sinclair, you cannot use that number for employment.
To obtain a US social security number, you must be in valid F1 nonimmigrant status. You may apply at the Social Security Administration office, which is located in the federal building on the corner of Perry and Third streets. The official address is 200 W. Second St., Dayton, OH 45402. It is the brown highrise building with a US post office branch on the first floor, which is diagonally across Third St. from Sinclair's campus.
You will need to bring the following information with you when you apply for the social security number.
2. I-94 card
3. I-20 form
4. letter from the foreign student advisor verifying that you are eligible for employment at Sinclair
You will receive your social security number card in the mail in approximately 7-10 business days. If you wish to use your social security number instead of the 999-99-XXXX assigned to you at Sinclair, bring your card and photo ID with you to the office of Registration & Student Records. You must complete a social security number correction form and present it at the counter along with your card and photo ID.
You must have a social security number to file a federal tax return for a refund of taxes to you.
...so yes it is true about the temporary 999 assignment numbers for International students. And Barry was over the age of 18.
Registration was suspened for a few years after Vietnam. They then did a catch up, which resulted in men born in '61 registering in '80, as did those born in '60. Those born in '62 registered in early '81. Then it resumed being with X days of your 18th birthday.
I remember going down to the SSS office in '67.
I rather doubt it myself.