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Clinton rips 'birthers'
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Posted on 05/24/2010 11:49:06 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Clinton rips 'birthers' By: Andy Barr May 24, 2010 01:52 PM EDT

Former President Bill Clinton is taking the so-called “birthers” to task for ignoring evidence that President Barack Obama was born in the United States.

Clinton made the comments during a commencement address at Yale University on Sunday as part of a critique of American media consumption habits.

“The only place where we’re bigoted now is we only want to be around people who agree with us,” Clinton said. “In our media habits, we go to the television shows, we go to the radio talk shows we go to the blog sites that agree with us. And it can have very bizarre consequences.”

The former president pointed to the “birthers” an example of one of those “bizarre consequences.”

“Hawaii, the state where President Obama was born, has done everything they can to debunk this myth that he wasn’t born in America,” Clinton said. “They’ve done everything but blow up his birth certificate, put it in neon lights and hang it on the dome in the Capitol.”

“But 45 percent of registered Republicans still believe that he is serving unconstitutionally,” Clinton insisted, though he did not identify the poll.

“Why?” he asked. “Because they’ve been told that by the only place they go to get information.”

(Excerpt) Read more at dyn.politico.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008election; 911truther; billclinton; birthers; certifigate; clintonlegacy; clintonvsobama; liesunderoath; naturalborncitizen; revisionisthistory
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To: Sub-Driver
Former President Bill Clinton is taking the so-called “birthers” to task for ignoring evidence that President Barack Obama was born in the United States.

Bill, just show me the birth certificate. Bill, have you seen the birth certificate? Bill, upon what proof do you make your claim?

Bill, how come there is a news report congratulating the "Kenyan born" for becoming a Senator? Bill, why did First Wookie speak of Kenya as her husband's homeland?

Well, Bill, what do you say?

52 posted on 05/24/2010 12:14:43 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: All

What did Clinton have to say regarding the left-wing loons who insisted that Trig wasn’t born by Sarah?

Those loons included the MSM, as they demanded Palin provide DNA evidence to prove that Trig is hers.

McCain had to show his proof, as he was born on a military base outside of the US, but Obama gets a free pass by the media.


53 posted on 05/24/2010 12:15:04 PM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield (The MSM are nothing but cheerleaders & complicit enablers for the Democrat Party.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Hey freepers, I just heard on the news that 9 was arrested for hacking obozo school records, about time somebody tries to end this madness and send obozo back to the rock he crawled from in Kenya!
54 posted on 05/24/2010 12:15:14 PM PDT by FreeperDoll
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To: Sub-Driver

maybe clinton can provide the ss number of the presidente and some school records...i just want to know why this president is so secretive about his past. and exactly what did he do as a community organizer that advanced his career to el presidente of the USA


55 posted on 05/24/2010 12:16:36 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Sub-Driver

The “vast right wing conspiracy” guy is whining about birthers. Remember Waco.


56 posted on 05/24/2010 12:17:10 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Sub-Driver

I guess graduation commencements are now democrat platforms used to bash conservatives. Such low class trash they all are. What happened to the days when the commencement ceremony was about the graduates?


57 posted on 05/24/2010 12:17:13 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: Sub-Driver
“Hawaii, the state where President Obama was born, has done everything they can to debunk this myth that he wasn’t born in America,” Clinton said. “They’ve done everything but blow up his birth certificate, put it in neon lights and hang it on the dome in the Capitol.”

Well, one thing he hasn't done is allow me, or anyone else, to obtain a certified copy of his brith certificate from the State of Hawaii. So far as I know, my birth certificate is a public record and anyone who wants to obtain one merely has to pay a copying fee to the municipality which retains that record. But not Obama. No.

ML/NJ

58 posted on 05/24/2010 12:17:47 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: day21221

According to the Selective Service date of registration, he registered on 9-4-80. I thought you had to register on or before your 18th birthday. He would have been 19+ at that time, or am I missing something?


59 posted on 05/24/2010 12:18:50 PM PDT by techrules2002
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To: Sub-Driver
“In our media habits, we go to the television shows, we go to the radio talk shows we go to the blog sites that agree with us..."

Didn't a recent study find that it was liberals who only wanted to go to blog sites that agreed with them? Conservatives turned out to be much more likely to include liberal blogs in their reading. Somehow they figured this out by looking at the traffic patterns in the left and right wing blogosphere. To me it's a totally believable result given how stupendously ignorant of conservatives and conservatism most liberals are.

60 posted on 05/24/2010 12:22:00 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Sub-Driver

Let’s not Forget: Bill Clinton was the first “Birther”
ON GOOD MORNING AMERICA, AUGUST 4TH, 2008, QUESTIONED OBAMA’S ELIGIBILITY

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/01/11/lets-not-forget-bill-clinton-was-the-first-birther/


61 posted on 05/24/2010 12:22:52 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: Sub-Driver
“The only place where we’re bigoted now is we only want to be around people who agree with us,” Clinton said

That also describes the majority of democrats in this country, Billy, but I guess that doesn't fit your agenda, now does it?


62 posted on 05/24/2010 12:24:54 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Never trust anyone who points their ass at God while praying.)
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To: bert

Au contraire mi amigo (a little texmex frog lingo there) the Messiah is a one termer. Guess who is salivating in the wings for a crack at ‘12?

She will be waiting a long time. After bammy, no Dem will sit in the WH for another 24 years.


63 posted on 05/24/2010 12:25:17 PM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: classified

I am not sure about that, but what suddenly made Biull think he needed to address the issue in public?

nothing- so... why did he suddenly bring it up? Well, knowing Bill and Hill... she wants his background to get cloudier.

I hope the Kenyan is exposed soo- if he is illegal then everything he signed is void.


64 posted on 05/24/2010 12:27:55 PM PDT by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Ain’t buyin’ it, Billy. You know you hate Obama and would love to see him fall and hard.


65 posted on 05/24/2010 12:28:20 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Sub-Driver

Probably because it is hard for Americans to believe that another American, expecially a US president, would be such a Communist-Marxist POS. I think 0 from another planet and needs to show an inter-galactic birth/hatching certificate.


66 posted on 05/24/2010 12:30:26 PM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: broken_arrow1

By the way Slick Willy, where is your birth cetificate?


67 posted on 05/24/2010 12:32:35 PM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Sub-Driver

Bill hurts Hilary’s chances to be the president every time he talks.


68 posted on 05/24/2010 12:35:01 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (Language, Borders, Culture, Full employment for those here legally)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Why should I care what this accused Racist (as per the Obama Campaign ‘08) says?


69 posted on 05/24/2010 12:36:17 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Sub-Driver

obama was born in Kenya.


70 posted on 05/24/2010 12:42:14 PM PDT by ILS21R
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To: Sub-Driver

I’m past caring anything about what this bloated buffoon has to say. He’s simply trying desperately to stay relevant.


71 posted on 05/24/2010 12:43:06 PM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: Sub-Driver

Wish he would dry up and blow away...both he and that horse Hillary he rode in on....wonder what’s behind his behavior.


72 posted on 05/24/2010 12:43:13 PM PDT by DefeatCorruption
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To: Sub-Driver
Who cares what you think?, dipstick!!
73 posted on 05/24/2010 12:56:17 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Fall 2011 when the lie is fully disclosed...

“Look, Hillary and I are just as shocked about this revelation as anyone else. He even fooled his own party and those whom loved him most. That’s why it’s time he save this country the pain and simply choose not to run again in 2012.”


74 posted on 05/24/2010 1:05:28 PM PDT by King Hawk
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To: Sub-Driver

Who is kidding who?

Hillary Clinton was behind the very first lawsuit that was filed.

“A prominent Philadelphia attorney and Hillary Clinton supporter filed suit this afternoon in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania against Illinois Sen. Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee.

The action seeks an injunction preventing the senator from continuing his candidacy and a court order enjoining the DNC from nominating him next week, all on grounds that Sen. Obama is constitutionally ineligible to run for and hold the office of President of the United States.

Phillip Berg, the filing attorney, is a former gubernatorial and senatorial candidate, former chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery (PA) County, former member of the Democratic State Committee, and former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania. ..”

Excerpted from:

Obama Sued in Philadelphia Federal Court (Constitutionally Ineligible for the Presidency)
AmericaRight.com ^ | 8/21/08 | Jeff Schreiber
Posted on Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:00:24 PM by LdSentinal
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2065855/posts

A prominent Philadelphia attorney and Hillary Clinton supporter filed suit this afternoon in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania against Illinois Sen. Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee.

The action seeks an injunction preventing the senator from continuing his candidacy and a court order enjoining the DNC from nominating him next week, all on grounds that Sen. Obama is constitutionally ineligible to run for and hold the office of President of the United States.

Phillip Berg, the filing attorney, is a former gubernatorial and senatorial candidate, former chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery (PA) County, former member of the Democratic State Committee, and former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania. According to Berg, he filed the suit—just days before the DNC is to hold its nominating convention in Denver—for the health of the Democratic Party.

“I filed this action at this time,” Berg stated, “to avoid the obvious problems that will occur when the Republican Party raises these issues after Obama is nominated.”.

Berg cited a number of unanswered questions regarding the Illinois senator’s background, and in today’s lawsuit maintained that Sen. Obama is not a naturalized U.S. citizen or that, if he ever was, he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia. Berg also cites what he calls “dual loyalties” due to his citizenship and ties with Kenya and Indonesia.

Even if Sen. Obama can prove his U.S. citizenship, Berg stated, citing the senator’s use of a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii verified as a forgery by three independent document forensic experts, the issue of “multi-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegiance to other countries” remains on the table.

In the lawsuit, Berg states that Sen. Obama was born in Kenya, and not in Hawaii as the senator maintains. Before giving birth, according to the lawsuit, Obama’s mother traveled to Kenya with his father but was prevented from flying back to Hawaii because of the late stage of her pregnancy, “apparently a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight.” As Sen. Obama’s own paternal grandmother, half-brother and half-sister have also claimed, Berg maintains that Stanley Ann Dunham—Obama’s mother—gave birth to little Barack in Kenya and subsequently flew to Hawaii to register the birth.

Berg cites inconsistent accounts of Sen. Obama’s birth, including reports that he was born at two separate hospitals—Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital—in Honolulu, as well a profound lack of birthing records for Stanley Ann Dunham, though simple “registry of birth” records for Barack Obama are available in a Hawaiian public records office.

Should Sen. Obama truly have been born in Kenya, Berg writes, the laws on the books at the time of his birth hold that U.S. citizenship may only pass to a child born overseas to a U.S. citizen parent and non-citizen parent if the former was at least 19 years of age. Sen. Obama’s mother was only 18 at the time. Therefore, because U.S. citizenship could not legally be passed on to him, Obama could not be registered as a “natural born” citizen and would therefore be ineligible to seek the presidency pursuant to Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution.

Moreover, even if Sen. Obama could have somehow been deemed “natural born,” that citizenship was lost in or around 1967 when he and his mother took up residency in Indonesia, where Stanley Ann Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen. Berg also states that he possesses copies of Sen. Obama’s registration to Fransiskus Assisi School In Jakarta, Indonesia which clearly show that he was registered under the name “Barry Soetoro” and his citizenship listed as Indonesian.

The Hawaiian birth certificate, Berg says, is a forgery. In the suit, the attorney states that the birth certificate on record is a forgery, has been identified as such by three independent document forensic experts, and actually belonged to Maya Kasandra Soetoro, Sen. Obama’s half-sister.

“Voters donated money, goods and services to elect a nominee and were defrauded by Sen. Obama’s lies and obfuscations,” Berg stated. “If the DNC officers ... had performed one ounce of due diligence we would not find ourselves in this emergency predicament, one week away from making a person the nominee who has lost their citizenship as a child and failed to even perform the basic steps of regaining citizenship as prescribed by constitutional laws.”

“It is unfair to the country,” he continued, “for candidates of either party to become the nominee when there is any question of the ability to serve if elected.”


75 posted on 05/24/2010 1:07:44 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ("If Obama Won, Then Why Won't Democrats Run on His Agenda?" ~ Rush Limbaugh - May 19, 2010)
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To: Sub-Driver; All
More:

In an interview that aired on ABC’s World News Tonight Bill Clinton denied that he is angry at Barack Obama, but offered very little in terms of an endorsement and enthusiasm for the Democratic nominee. Clinton denied that he is still angry, “I’m not, and I never was mad at Senator Obama. I think everybody’s got a right to run for president if he qualifies under the Constitution... "

HERE

76 posted on 05/24/2010 1:16:45 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ("If Obama Won, Then Why Won't Democrats Run on His Agenda?" ~ Rush Limbaugh - May 19, 2010)
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To: RobbyS

If you are adopted ,your birth falls under special rules to protect the birth parents and the child . But there are records avaiable ( court order ) that would give your place of birth , birth parents, hospital ,doctors. Are you suggesting that obama was adopted ?. As this would be the only way he would not have a standard birth record from Hawaii. For what’s it worth, obama is not listed by Hawaiian records as ever having been issued a CERTIFIED CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH that shows he was born in Hawaiian hospital. Even the hospital(it has change several times) he now claims he was born in has no records of his birth.


77 posted on 05/24/2010 1:56:34 PM PDT by omegadawn
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To: Mr. K

RE#3;
You are correct.
It’s a matter of who’s FBI files out-trump the other when the time is right.


78 posted on 05/24/2010 2:03:07 PM PDT by tractorman
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To: jersey117
I guess graduation commencements are now democrat platforms used to bash conservatives.

Yeah, can you imagine being a parent having paid 4+ years of tuition and expenses and then having to sit there and listen to that garbage (Arizona State this past weekend as another example!). I realize that a lot in the audience at a place like Yale was probably all too happy to lap it all up, but I'm sure there must be some parents at some schools that don't want to hear that at all. Hey, how about West Point this weekend? That had to make a lot of the parents and graduates sick to their stomachs to have to listen that treasonous screed, what a shame...

I attended a local university college's convocation and didn't have to get up and barf, the speaker was Cousin Brucie and he kept his address about the graduates, imagine that. (The only brief moment that wasn't enjoyable was when he spoke about seeing his mother and all the women in the neighborhood crying around a portable radio listening to the news of fdr's death. He just noted it as his initial inspiration to get into radio, didn't comment much more than that.) I have no idea what his politics were before the speech, and didn't know any more about them when he was done; just the way it should be!

79 posted on 05/24/2010 2:12:49 PM PDT by zzeeman (Fighting to not be the amongst the last generation to enjoy Freedom & Liberty!)
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To: Sub-Driver

I am a birther.


80 posted on 05/24/2010 2:27:42 PM PDT by y6162
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To: Sub-Driver

Scary is that Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck, Andrew Breitbart, Bill O’Reilly, and some others agree with BJC on this one....trashing the Birthers.

Like the critics of the AZ SB 1070....they have not read the Obama Long Form Birth Certificate.....


81 posted on 05/24/2010 2:51:56 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (JD Hayworth for Senate ..... jdforsenate.com)
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To: Sub-Driver

Vintage Clinton. Half-truths & outright lies.

But there’s a certain amount of misdirection going on here. The beauty is that just mentioning Barry’s citizenship problem — even while ridiculing the “birthers” — puts the issue out in the open. Barry Soetero is probably seething today.


82 posted on 05/24/2010 3:29:35 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Mears

bump


83 posted on 05/24/2010 3:37:28 PM PDT by Mears
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To: ml/nj
Well, one thing he hasn't done is allow me, or anyone else, to obtain a certified copy of his brith certificate from the State of Hawaii. So far as I know, my birth certificate is a public record and anyone who wants to obtain one merely has to pay a copying fee to the municipality which retains that record.

Not any more. At one time that was true, anyone could get a copy of your BC, but ostensibly due to "identity theft", it's not so easy these days.

84 posted on 05/24/2010 3:58:22 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
I'm pretty sure that anyone can still get a copy of my birth certificate by supplying my name and birthdate. There really isn't much information on my certificate that could be used to "steal my identity." Even if my great protectors wouldn't let you get such a copy unless I specifically gave you permission, I promise that upon election by the Electoral College, I will give you and everyone else such permission. And since you will also need to see my father's naturalization papers, I will make those available too.

ML/NJ

85 posted on 05/24/2010 4:06:33 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
I'm pretty sure that anyone can still get a copy of my birth certificate by supplying my name and birthdate. There really isn't much information on my certificate that could be used to "steal my identity." Even if my great protectors wouldn't let you get such a copy unless I specifically gave you permission, I promise that upon election by the Electoral College, I will give you and everyone else such permission. And since you will also need to see my father's naturalization papers, I will make those available too.

Personally I think all that should become public the minute your name goes on the ballot, even in a primary.

86 posted on 05/24/2010 4:08:42 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
And BTW, you can see all my old Passports, and college transcripts too.

ML/NJ

87 posted on 05/24/2010 4:11:36 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: omegadawn

No, I am suggesting that the “long form” does not say who his father was, that it was say he was illegitimate. I am advancing this only as a possibility. Wherever he was born, the document does not fit the narrative. Ditto the other documentation he is concealing. My impression is that this man has invented a life story and is depending on his powerful friends to cover this up. IAC, whether this man was born on American soil or not, he has little in common with the “ordinary” American, even with someone like Willaim Ayres. he is not an American “type.” Compare him with Alger Hiss, for instance. Or George McGovern. or any black civil rights leader, even the Rev. Wright. He is “strange. An Auslander.


88 posted on 05/24/2010 10:00:48 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Sub-Driver

PING


89 posted on 05/24/2010 10:11:05 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: Mr. K
If he really wanted us to ignore it he would not have said anything

I suspect that Democrats try to subtly troll the "birthers" to get them stirred up so that they're more visible and thus more effective at making conservatives in general look silly.

90 posted on 05/25/2010 8:37:10 AM PDT by reaganairport
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