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Tolerated in America, Persecuted Abroad (problems that European homeschooling families face)
CWR ^ | May 25, 2010 | Daniel Allott

Posted on 05/25/2010 10:55:12 AM PDT by NYer

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Daniel Allott is senior writer at American Values, a Washington, DC-area public policy organization
1 posted on 05/25/2010 10:55:13 AM PDT by NYer
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Cardinal Francis Arinze, prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and Discipline of the Sacraments, has said, “The primary educators of children are parents. The child is the child of the parent first, and the parents are the first to answer to God for their children.”

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2 posted on 05/25/2010 10:55:58 AM PDT by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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To: NYer
As my tagline says...Education is too important to leave in the hands of government.
3 posted on 05/25/2010 10:56:21 AM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to leave in the hands of the government.)
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To: highlander_UW; NYer

Absolutely. The Romeike’s are our gain, Germany’s loss.


4 posted on 05/25/2010 10:59:11 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: This Just In

I second that opinion.


5 posted on 05/25/2010 11:01:35 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: NYer
This is all just dancing around the real problem. We have to take back the schools from the liberals.
6 posted on 05/25/2010 11:02:55 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: Americas last, best hope for survival.)
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To: NYer

“Tolerated in America”. Homeschooling should be celebrated in America. I wish I would have been able to homeschool my kids.


7 posted on 05/25/2010 11:05:55 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: NurdlyPeon

This isn’t dancing around the problem. This is an attack on the problem. As a matter of fact, this is a solution to the problem.

You can’t “take back” this problem. The government should never be involved in the business of educating our children at all. We must either privatize education, or home educate our children.

All government run institutions of education will reflect the ideology of those in power.


8 posted on 05/25/2010 11:07:04 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: NurdlyPeon

I fear it is too late.


9 posted on 05/25/2010 11:07:19 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

Step aside, naysayer, and let us do the heavy lifting. Individuals with no conviction die as slaves.


10 posted on 05/25/2010 11:09:12 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: This Just In

Exactly what “heavy lifting” do you propose? I’m all for answers.


11 posted on 05/25/2010 11:10:08 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

You’re all for answer my eye.

How about all those brave parents removing their children from public schools and educating them at home, for starters?

You’re full of it, and a potential Troll. I suspect anyone who poses on this forum as a FReeper, yet sows seeds of doubt on fundamental ideals of liberty.


12 posted on 05/25/2010 11:17:21 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: This Just In

I hardly need to defend myself to you. You made a comment and I asked how you would do it. I believe home-schoolers make up about 3% of students. Gonna take a lot more than that to change the public schools, no?

Until we figure out how to get rid of the Dept. of Education and return education to local communities, things will only get worse, especially with the power teachers’ unions have.


13 posted on 05/25/2010 11:23:00 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: NYer
“There are activist judges on the various state courts and even on the US Supreme Court who enjoy citing international case law to support their points when they can’t find American law.

Yet another reason why Kagan must not be confirmed.

14 posted on 05/25/2010 11:24:46 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (my former tagline "We can, and we will prevail" doesn't fit with the usurper's goals.)
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To: This Just In

I’m sure that there sre s wide vsriety of Christian schools in Germany — why didn’t they send the children to one of those?


15 posted on 05/25/2010 11:27:00 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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They did not have the freedoms as home educated children do in this country. And now, the Romeike’s do.


16 posted on 05/25/2010 11:29:08 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: ilovesarah2012

“I hardly need to defend myself to you”

I did not ask you to. I responded to your comment, and you replied.

Our Constitutional government was never designed to establish government run institutions of education. Certainly not at a federal level.

I would agree that the states should be allowed their constitutional rights to govern their citizens without the federal government “overseeing” local political affairs.


17 posted on 05/25/2010 11:33:38 AM PDT by This Just In
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To: NurdlyPeon
We have to take back the schools from the liberals.
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Socialist-funded, socialist-modeled, Prussian-tyranny style, government schools can not be “taken back” from the liberals! These schools have **always** been an abomination!!!!

Why?

Answer: Because government schools ARE the very essence and expression of socialism and socialism can not be reformed.

Simply by attending children learn that the government has the police power to take money from their neighbor to pay for schooling that their parents want tuition-free. Well?...If the government can use its police power to give away free schooling why not thousands of other free services and goods?

Next,...From the very first day that government schools opened in the mid-1800s children were subjected to a generic and lukewarm Protestantism. Well...We know what Christ does with the lukewarm. He spits them out of His mouth!

From my grandmother's day ( born 1894), government schools were entirely atheistic in their worldview with 2 minutes of puny prayer in the morning. After being subjected to years of socialist and atheistic schooling is it surprising that my grandmother and father mistook FDR for Moses?

Solution: Close down the government K-12 schools! ALL of them! Open private conservative schools for our nation's children.

18 posted on 05/25/2010 11:35:12 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

Communist Goals (1963)

Documention below

Congressional Record—Appendix, pp. A34-A35

January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals

EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Thursday, January 10, 1963

Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.

At Mrs. Nordman’s request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following “Current Communist Goals,” which she identifies as an excerpt from “The Naked Communist,” by Cleon Skousen:

[From “The Naked Communist,” by Cleon Skousen]

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev’s promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a “religious crutch.”

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture—education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use [”]united force[”] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.


19 posted on 05/25/2010 11:41:04 AM PDT by This Just In
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We homeschool for LOTS of reasons. But it really is up to everyone to be sure we keep our right to do so. The NEA hates us. We make them unnecessary. Keep a close eye on CA. They are trying to make it illegal. As goes CA, so goes the US....


20 posted on 05/25/2010 11:49:35 AM PDT by Sunbunny
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