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3 planes forced to land after violating airspace over Obama's home
Chicago Tribune ^ | May 31, 2010 | Andrew L. Wang

Posted on 05/31/2010 8:44:22 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

At least three single-engine planes violated a temporarily restricted flight area apparently set up over the area this past weekend for President Barack Obama's return to Chicago, according to the North American Aerospace Defense Command.

Maj. Mike Humphreys declined to say specifically that the restricted area was being enforced for the president's visit or how large the area is but said that, in general, the zones are put in place for various reasons including "POTUS movements."

"It's not so unusual that these incidents occur," he said. In most cases the incursions are accidents, "but we have to be ready every time."

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagobreakingnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: aviation; obama; planes
Obama is having movements? Uncooked food from the BBQ?
1 posted on 05/31/2010 8:44:23 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

Airplanes that violated the air space over his home? In Kenya?


2 posted on 05/31/2010 8:50:27 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Joe McCarthy was right. He was just early.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

...it is a movement....


3 posted on 05/31/2010 8:51:02 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: ConservativeStatement

“Maj. Mike Humphreys declined to say specifically that the restricted area was being enforced for the president’s visit or how large the area is”

Well that’s stupid! If there going to have a no fly zone and keep in secret, of course there will be incursions...


4 posted on 05/31/2010 8:51:40 AM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Armed 152’s?

Who knew?

‘course I learned in a Tomahawk, so what would I know?


5 posted on 05/31/2010 8:52:06 AM PDT by benewton (Life sucks, then you die)
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To: ConservativeStatement

It’s probably just the paparazi’s trying to film the ‘American Idol’ president.


6 posted on 05/31/2010 8:57:14 AM PDT by penelopesire ("Did you plug the hole yet daddy?")
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To: penelopesire

too bad they didn’t drop a watermelon on his hut.


7 posted on 05/31/2010 8:59:57 AM PDT by celtic gal
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To: ConservativeStatement
Did the no fly zone ground the bats in Obama’s belfry?
8 posted on 05/31/2010 9:00:23 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (If Obama doesn't destroy America, she is indestructible.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

It’s normal to set up restricted spaces for air travel, and at sea for boats if there are naval exercises.

These areas are normally delineated on charts, and the warnings, of course, tell you what areas to stay out of.

But this article says: “Maj. Mike Humphreys declined to say specifically that the restricted area was being enforced for the president’s visit or how large the area is.”

WHAT? THERE’S A RESTRICTED AREA, BUT THEY REFUSE TO TELL YOU WHERE IT IS?

How . . . Nazi of them.


9 posted on 05/31/2010 9:01:47 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Must of looked like the ending of king kong


10 posted on 05/31/2010 9:01:50 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: ConservativeStatement

These Temporary Flight Restrictions (TFRs) can suddenly go into effect with no prior notice, and heaven help any pilot who hasn’t gotten the word and inadvertently busts one. “Penalties” include using deadly force to stop the “intruder.”

And there aren’t convenient marks on the ground or roadsigns available to pilots who are also charged with seeing and avoiding airborne traffic while safely flying the aircraft. It’s really easy to not be completely precise in navigation while dealing with other airborne issues.

When Obama flew into the San Francisco Bay Area recently, the amount of airspace that was now off limits was huge - from Marin County airports to the north, all airports along the coast down to Gilroy, and east to Tracy. No flight training. No Ag work. No gliders. No skydiving. No banner towing. No aerial photography.

Anybody in the administration want to guess how this impacts small aviation companies already on the ropes from a terrible California economy?

All to raise funds for Babs and visit a solar panel company that’s already received half a billion in government funding.

Ptooie.


11 posted on 05/31/2010 9:02:09 AM PDT by Tigerized (pursuingliberty.com)
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To: babygene

Stupid is as stupid does.


12 posted on 05/31/2010 9:02:18 AM PDT by wiggen (Government owned slave.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

I don’t know why anyone would want to be in Obama’s airspace.


13 posted on 05/31/2010 9:05:57 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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Now I get it...

He was playing golf & got p!ssed when someone flew over while he was puttin’ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

14 posted on 05/31/2010 9:08:18 AM PDT by TRY ONE (Another Beer Summit.....another day in Debt)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Thunderstorms are approaching the Chicago area.....in fact, I hear the thunder rumbling loudly as I type. In fact, I just got up and looked out the window and it's pouring.

If the BarakBQue-in-Chief is planning on handling the tongs today for the grilled filets mignon with Caesar salad, I'm afraid everything is already being moved into the garage.

He should have commanded the storm to by-pass Chicago, by Jove!

Leni

15 posted on 05/31/2010 9:08:36 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore" - 10/20/09 "Obama is not a Marxist")
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To: MinuteGal

That makes me smile, Thanks.


16 posted on 05/31/2010 9:12:34 AM PDT by easternsky
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To: ConservativeStatement
declined to say specifically that the restricted area was being enforced for the president's visit or how large the area is

So the fliers didn't know about a secret 'no fly' zone?

17 posted on 05/31/2010 9:12:44 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: babygene
Well that’s stupid! If there going to have a no fly zone and keep in secret, of course there will be incursions

They are well defined and published in NOTAMs readily available online. Its far from secret. The PR probably just did not know the answer

18 posted on 05/31/2010 9:15:13 AM PDT by Starwolf
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To: Cicero
WHAT? THERE’S A RESTRICTED AREA, BUT THEY REFUSE TO TELL YOU WHERE IT IS?

It's the Obama Regime's equivalent of double secret probation.
19 posted on 05/31/2010 9:21:41 AM PDT by Cheburashka (Stephen Decatur: you want barrels of gunpowder as tribute, you must expect cannonballs with it.)
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To: Tigerized
Anybody in the administration want to guess how this impacts small aviation companies already on the ropes from a terrible California economy?

Do you think that anybody in the administration really cares?

20 posted on 05/31/2010 9:23:00 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: Sarajevo

“Do you think that anybody in the administration really cares?”

I have no delusions that they do. Why should any Democrat be concerned with the plight of the average taxpayer? In spite of their frequently employed “champion of the little guy” rhetoric.

Words. Just words.


21 posted on 05/31/2010 9:30:52 AM PDT by Tigerized (pursuingliberty.com)
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To: ConservativeStatement

http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/notams.html

Please note that due to heightened security measures, AOPA is no longer able to post advance notice of Presidential/VIP movement TFRs until the information is released by the FAA.

* Chicago, Illinois—May 27-31
* Chicago, Illinois—May 28
* Chicago, Illinois—May 28
* Anapolis, Maryland—May 28
* New Orleans, Louisiana—May 28
* Southhapmton, New York—May 28-30
* Elwood, Illinois—May 31
* Until further notice: Greenville/Wilmington, Delaware
* Until further notice: Dallas, Texas

There were NOTAMS it wasn’t secret. Link has details on the no-fly zones.


22 posted on 05/31/2010 9:30:59 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
You can see temporary flight restrictions on a map of the US here: http://map.aeroplanner.com/mapping/tfr.cfm?

Obama has about 6,000 square miles of airspace locked up around Chicago which is extreme.

23 posted on 05/31/2010 9:32:35 AM PDT by Reeses (Children, prisoners, and Democrats need adult supervision.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

the FAA is saying this.........

Airspace Definition:
Center: CHICAGO O’HARE VOR/DME(ORD) (Latitude: 41º59’16”N, Longitude: 87º54’18”W)
Radius: 10 nautical miles
Altitude: From the surface up to but not including 18000 feet MSL
Effective Date(s):
From May 31, 2010 at 2000 UTC (May 31, 2010 at 1500 CDT)
To May 31, 2010 at 2100 UTC (May 31, 2010 at 1600 CDT)


24 posted on 05/31/2010 9:33:42 AM PDT by MCCC
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To: ConservativeStatement

PARANOIA????


25 posted on 05/31/2010 9:33:57 AM PDT by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: MCCC

No pilots may operate an aircraft in the areas covered by this NOTAM (except as described).

Except as specified below and/or unless authorized by ATC in consultation with the air traffic security coordinator via the domestic events network (DEN):

A. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS WITHIN THE 10 NMR AREA(S) LISTED ABOVE, KNOWN AS THE INNER CORE(S), ARE PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR: APPROVED LAW ENFORCEMENT, MILITARY AIRCRAFT DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE (USSS) AND THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, APPROVED AIR AMBULANCE FLIGHTS, AND REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMMERCIAL PASSENGER AND ALL-CARGO CARRIERS OPERATING UNDER ONE OF THE FOLLOWING TSA-APPROVED STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAMS/PROCEDURES: AIRCRAFT OPERATOR STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAM (AOSSP), FULL ALL-CARGO AIRCRAFT OPERATOR STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAM (FACAOSSP), MODEL SECURITY PROGRAM (MSP), TWELVE FIVE STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAM (TFSSP) ALL CARGO, OR ALL-CARGO INTERNATIONAL SECURITY PROCEDURE (ACISP) AND ARE ARRIVING INTO AND/OR DEPARTING FROM 14 CFR PART 139 AIRPORTS.

B. FOR OPERATIONS WITHIN THIS TFR, ALL USSS VETTED AIRCRAFT OPERATORS BASED IN THE AREA AND ALL EMERGENCY/LIFE SAVING FLIGHT (MEDICAL/LAW ENFORCEMENT/FIREFIGHTING) OPERATIONS MUST COORDINATE WITH ATC PRIOR TO THEIR DEPARTURE AT 847-289-1326 AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS.

C. THE FOLLOWING OPERATIONS ARE NOT AUTHORIZED WITHIN THIS TFR: FLIGHT TRAINING, PRACTICE INSTRUMENT APPROACHES, AEROBATIC FLIGHT, GLIDER OPERATIONS, PARACHUTE OPERATIONS, ULTRALIGHT, HANG GLIDING, BALLOON OPERATIONS, AGRICULTURE/CROP DUSTING, ANIMAL POPULATION CONTROL FLIGHT OPERATIONS, BANNER TOWING OPERATIONS, SEAPLANE OPERATIONS, SIGHTSEEING OPERATIONS, MAINTENANCE TEST FLIGHTS, MODEL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS, MODEL ROCKETRY, AND UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS (UAS).

D. FAA RECOMMENDS THAT ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATORS CHECK NOTAMS FREQUENTLY FOR POSSIBLE CHANGES TO THIS TFR PRIOR TO OPERATIONS WITHIN THIS REGION.


26 posted on 05/31/2010 9:38:30 AM PDT by MCCC
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To: ConservativeStatement

A lot of this is proforma for any POTUS but do I detect a note of nervousness with regards this particular one?


27 posted on 05/31/2010 9:41:32 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: ConservativeStatement

See Tagline.


28 posted on 05/31/2010 9:42:27 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (CNN:AP:etc:Today, President Obama's stool was firm and well-formed. One end was slightly pointed. ")
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“Obama has about 6,000 square miles of airspace locked up around Chicago which is extreme.”

He’s got the votes and the cemeteries locked up too-he owns da whole joint!/s;)


29 posted on 05/31/2010 9:44:57 AM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: MCCC
MODEL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS, MODEL ROCKETRY, AND UNMANNED AIRCRAFT SYSTEMS (UAS).

Now they're really showing their paranoia.

30 posted on 05/31/2010 9:52:39 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

3 Nation of Islam Flying Carpets Security detail forced to land after violating airspace over Arizona Governor Jan Brewer`s house.


31 posted on 05/31/2010 9:56:47 AM PDT by bunkerhill7
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To: Cicero

Kinda like “double secret probation”.


32 posted on 05/31/2010 9:57:02 AM PDT by reg45
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To: Cicero

Kinda like “double secret probation”.


33 posted on 05/31/2010 10:00:06 AM PDT by reg45
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To: Hardastarboard

34 posted on 05/31/2010 12:45:08 PM PDT by conimbricenses
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To: al baby
I was thinking of another movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeeIuC77NVM

35 posted on 05/31/2010 12:49:46 PM PDT by conimbricenses
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