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BP is cutting the riser right now!
BP.com ^ | 05/31/2010 | BP

Posted on 05/31/2010 2:38:39 PM PDT by omega4179

Very interesting.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: bop; bp; canada; chomper; fumbles; livefeed; oilspill; topcap; topkill
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To: palmer

The relief well is just another well. I don’t think it will relieve the pressure substantially. Saudi Arabia is full of wells where the oil flows up and is collected using the pressure of the field. The fact there are lots of holes and wells doesn’t mean one will cease to flow when another is opened.

Eventually the pressure might be lessened but not in the immediate future.


3,651 posted on 06/03/2010 8:19:05 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ostracize Democrats. There can be no Democrat friends.)
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To: airborne
Going to dine on a big plate of seafood drenched in oil.

Hopefully the wife and I won't be next week. We have reservations in Gulf Shores for the 11-14 for our 15th anniversary.

Neither of us go into the gulf water much anyway, prefer the condo's pool and hot tub, but we are praying the oil is still off shore so we can at least enjoy the beach without to much odor and stuff.

3,652 posted on 06/03/2010 8:19:47 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: palmer

They know the geology of the area. Pick an unpermable oil layer and nuke below that. On irradiating stuff, you don’t know what you are talking about.


3,653 posted on 06/03/2010 8:20:42 AM PDT by downwdims (It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority)
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To: bert

The relief wells are not designed to relieve the pressure, they are planning on drilling into the original bore and diverting the oil to those two wells, they plan to seal this well from below once they have drilled into the bore.


3,654 posted on 06/03/2010 8:21:18 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: All
This morning we witnessed both an honest to goodness miracle and real heroes in action.

IMO, it's important to give thanks and remember this morning as we face troubled days ahead.

3,655 posted on 06/03/2010 8:22:36 AM PDT by Errant
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To: commish

Yearly I would go done to Port Aransas and rent a condo for a week and disconect from everything. Then in 2007 they bant smoking. They lost my monies


3,656 posted on 06/03/2010 8:22:37 AM PDT by downwdims (It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority)
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To: airborne

The reports are that very little of the sea food has been effected by the oil.


3,657 posted on 06/03/2010 8:28:51 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: bert

The relief well is mainly to allow sealing of the main well from below. It will probably also relieve some pressure.


3,658 posted on 06/03/2010 8:29:10 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: palmer

I think digging two relief wells is dumb....increases the possibility of something going wrong.


3,659 posted on 06/03/2010 8:32:57 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: Errant

Per Coast Guard, the Cap has been moved into place above the well, and BP will begin lowering it onto the well within the next ‘couple’ hours.

Due to the irregular cut from the Shear they are not sure how much leakage they will have,but anticipate that it will be more that if the diamond cut had worked as they won’t be able to get a complete seal now.


3,660 posted on 06/03/2010 8:33:43 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Good to hear.


3,661 posted on 06/03/2010 8:38:15 AM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: airborne

Skandi I has some extremely good closeup shots of the Cut on right now .. they are right on top of the stack.


3,662 posted on 06/03/2010 8:39:13 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: palmer

They are sawing the corners of the crimp off.


3,663 posted on 06/03/2010 8:39:17 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Where is our military?)
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To: commish
Thanks, I just saw an article on Drudge with a picture of a what looked like a jagged edge at a distance. But if you look at the very close up of the other end that Viking 1 showed you see a pretty darn clean cut. I think some of what they're thinking is jagged edge is really puffs of oil streaming over the edge. Besides the seal will seal below the diamond saw cut which is way below the "irregular" cut.

Look for this administration and the MSM to make light of what happened today. They're going after our heroes and we need to put a stop to it...

3,664 posted on 06/03/2010 8:40:16 AM PDT by Errant
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To: commish

Skandi I is sawing away at the cut right now — looks like they are attempting to smooth the cut some to get a better seal. Using the circular saw we have seen multiple times.


3,665 posted on 06/03/2010 8:40:51 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: Sacajaweau

No way. they will get to empty the oil field with more wells. The gov probably wouldn’t let them drill any more wells a few months ago. Now they will have 3! Go BP!


3,666 posted on 06/03/2010 8:41:37 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Where is our military?)
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To: commish

OK, a different ROV doing the Sawing, Skandi was just in closeup on what they were doing. My mistake.


3,667 posted on 06/03/2010 8:42:22 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: Errant

You are absolutely right about this...and hats off to those doing this work...topside as well as the operators...these people are doing a heck of a job......deserving of more than a handshake when all is said and done.....The news has done a terrible injustice in pointing fingers when the real news is the feat which is occuring now.... Absolutely amazing!
Besides we don’t work in a McDonalds instant meal mentality as so much of the public...it took a lot of time to drill the well in the first place...it’s going to take alot of time to fix it.


3,668 posted on 06/03/2010 8:42:58 AM PDT by caww
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To: a real Sheila
We need a screen grab of this to put on a T-shirt and caption it “Obama’s Legacy.”

This would be a big mistake IMHO. I think conservatives, capitalists and efficient energy advocates will be hurt by making this an ever increasing political issue. If conservatives try to make the blowout a part of Obama's legacy, the left will defend Obama by closing down the petroleum industry just as they shut down the Nuclear power industry after Three Mile Island.

Don't kid yourself, be it salt, cigarettes, fat or petroleum, the nanny state is looking to put certain industries out of business as soon as possible thru regulation or taxation. All they need is the condition precedent to make a sympathetic case. This blowout cannot and will not be pinned to Obama. What can be pinned to Obama is the filthy coastline that federal regulation prevented from being protected by the states.

3,669 posted on 06/03/2010 8:44:35 AM PDT by Lowcountry (RIP: Peterdanbrokaw)
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To: Sacajaweau
"I think digging two relief wells is dumb....increases the possibility of something going wrong..."

Nope. Doubles the possibility that things will go right.

3,670 posted on 06/03/2010 8:44:46 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: caww
Thanks caww, I want to see the faces and the names of every person on these teams. An I want them awarded for the the job they did this morning!
3,671 posted on 06/03/2010 8:49:33 AM PDT by Errant
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To: commish

Just watching this, I wonder why they don’t seal the cap on the OD of the flanges?


3,672 posted on 06/03/2010 8:53:31 AM PDT by KenD
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

Probably and obvious answer, but I’ve never seen the question asked:

“Why can’t they unbolt the flange at the bottom of the riser, and bolt a cover or new junction to it?”


3,673 posted on 06/03/2010 8:55:30 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: Errant

I thought at first they were smoothing the shear cut, but now that they are close up on the saw it looks like they are making vertical cuts down to the weld line on the remaining riser.

My guess is they are going to cut the top away in ‘slices’ to make a smoother rounder surface for the seal down by the weld line.


3,674 posted on 06/03/2010 8:55:41 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: Lowcountry; a real Sheila
We need a screen grab of this to put on a T-shirt and caption it “Obama’s Legacy.”

As tempting as it may be to pile on, the fact that the left (Carville, Matthews, etc.) is beginning to speak out against the Obama Regime is reason enough to step back and let them.

The American people see what's going on, and they know Obama has done "ZERO" - except to point fingers, threaten lawsuits and call in lame assed "experts" like college professors and Hollyweird directors.

Give them enough rope, and then step back and enjoy!

3,675 posted on 06/03/2010 8:57:47 AM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
Why can’t they unbolt the flange at the bottom of the riser, and bolt a cover or new junction to it?”

Two reasons: 1. the ROVs are not powerful enough to loosen the bolts (this could be overcome though)

2. There is no way to uniformly remove the bolts, and with the enormous pressure of the well all the bolts would have to be removed at the same time or the pressure will blow the flange off and deform it at whichever bolt is still attached.

3,676 posted on 06/03/2010 8:58:31 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: airborne

You have to admit, it gives new meaning to the term “Chocolate City.”


3,677 posted on 06/03/2010 9:02:05 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: commish
Disclaimer: I haven't been following this story closely. I apologize if I'm covering old material.

Has anyone considered drilling another hole with good controls on it which can be used as a pressure relief to make plugging the broken one easier?

1) Drill 2nd (larger?) well, with a good, intact head and valves, etc.

2) Open valves on 2nd well, causing crude flow from it and, hopefully, decreasing the pressure/flow on the 1st well

3) Have an easier time capping the 1st well due to decreased flow/pressure.

4) Close them both.

3,678 posted on 06/03/2010 9:03:38 AM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

The old half full, half empty...


3,679 posted on 06/03/2010 9:04:09 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: Errant

Yep! Me too! The whole world is watching their hands...and the results...we want to also see the faces of these people when this is over....yep! No doubt about it....


3,680 posted on 06/03/2010 9:04:21 AM PDT by caww
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To: commish
This was a headline on my embarq home page (my webmail)

"BP fumbled its latest underwater experiment with the wild Gulf gusher..."

Our little guy is getting quite the reputation, it seems.

3,681 posted on 06/03/2010 9:04:41 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal texted me at 0330 on 2/3/10: AMERICA!)
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To: TChris

BP is currently drilling two relief wells from the side of the current well. They are drilling down into the current bore at approx 18000 feet, and don’t expect to mate up until aug-sep time frame.

At that point they will use the relief wells to seal the current well from below.

for now they are trying to put a cap on this well to capture as much oil as possible.


3,682 posted on 06/03/2010 9:06:25 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: Errant
They are cleaning up the snipped area with a saw from Ocean 2. I think they may have a great chance of doing what they plan to do with the cap!

I have been pulling for the guys to do a good job for the last few days. The operators of all those ROVs and the crane operator for Jaws do need to be rewarded. They have been tenacious and never gave up!

3,683 posted on 06/03/2010 9:08:02 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: airborne

We need a screen grab of this to put on a T-shirt and caption it “Obama’s Legacy.”

I was thinking more of a T-shirt with an oil soaked
albatross hung around the neck and
“You got Obama, all I got was the bird.”


3,684 posted on 06/03/2010 9:11:42 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Yep, it was awesome and one for the history books! The light flaring on the volumes of oil, gas and mud enveloping the ROVs looked like blinding explosions and when you could finally make out Chomp, the little ROVs still held him in position.

I can see God's hand all over this...

;)

3,685 posted on 06/03/2010 9:16:30 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

I wonder if Fumbles and T. Rex will now have to join the Screen Actors Guild. That’d have to include Saw and Cut and Jaws, too.

James Cameron, noted blowout expert, has been imported from Hollllllllywoooood.


3,686 posted on 06/03/2010 9:23:32 AM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: Ole Okie
From Drudge:

Master Director Cameron says BP turned down offer to help... 'Those morons don't know what they're doing'...

3,687 posted on 06/03/2010 9:26:37 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Red_Devil 232

The WKRG feed has a counter that shows # of viewers.

It went from under 5,000 to over 6,900 in seconds.


3,688 posted on 06/03/2010 9:27:10 AM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: Errant
Master Director Cameron says BP turned down offer to help... 'Those morons don't know what they're doing'...

That's pretty funny right there.
3,689 posted on 06/03/2010 9:28:06 AM PDT by ZX12R (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!)
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To: Errant

My mistake. I thought the gubment experts had brought him in.


3,690 posted on 06/03/2010 9:30:57 AM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: angcat

Try these various cameras. Not all work at the same time.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2524815/posts?page=3505#3505


3,691 posted on 06/03/2010 9:30:59 AM PDT by deport
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To: deport

Most of the action is on this cam right now.

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/incident_response/STAGING/local_assets/html/OceanInterventionROV2.html


3,692 posted on 06/03/2010 9:33:15 AM PDT by Raebie
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To: deport

My analysis is that there is a tear on the right side that might be the failed diamond saw cut. It appears to be just above or perhaps at the point where the flange was welded to the pipe. The seal will be effected below that on the flange body

The current effort seems to be to make vertical cuts that can be folded inward slightly to allow the cap to fit over the pipe stubout and in good close contact with the slightly tapered flange. the slight taper of the flange body will permit a tight and regular seal.


3,693 posted on 06/03/2010 9:37:20 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ostracize Democrats. There can be no Democrat friends.)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

is that another saw I see now in the WKRG feed?
Why are they sawing vertically?

somebody...

anybody...

Bueller?


3,694 posted on 06/03/2010 9:41:10 AM PDT by a real Sheila (Obama isn't even voting "present!")
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To: TChris
The ultimate result will be to plug the blowout well using two relieve bores currently ongoing. Until they are complete the other efforts are to capture as much of the oil as possible.


3,695 posted on 06/03/2010 9:41:35 AM PDT by deport
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To: deport
Cool.

I'm pleasantly surprised that my idea was, basically, the right one.

3,696 posted on 06/03/2010 9:43:48 AM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

Probably can’t get the torque


3,697 posted on 06/03/2010 9:44:27 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: deport

Cool graphics!!!


3,698 posted on 06/03/2010 9:44:33 AM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: TChris
I thought of drilling sideways into the riser pipe along time ago to relieve some of the pressure...but I think everything has to be done evenly so it would mean drilling two holes simultaneously...

The next bad thought is "shear" on ony one of those sides could wreck a huge section....

3,699 posted on 06/03/2010 9:48:31 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: airborne

Go to the following and on the right side is a section entitled “in this section”. Click each section and you’ll find graphics of some of the equipment, etc. It gives you some prespective of the size of the equipment involved, the technical expertise, etc.

http://www.bp.com/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9033571&contentId=7061708


3,700 posted on 06/03/2010 9:54:41 AM PDT by deport
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