Italy: Women to be paid 'a fee' for rejecting abortion

AKI ^ | 6/1/2010

[Jack Hydrazine]

It would be interesting to know what the fertility rate would be without the immigrants, illegal aliens, and their first-generation children.

[Mrs. Don-o]

I'm sure somebody has these figures, but I haven't found them yet. (If you do, please let me know!)

I did find the following, which is not quite "it" but which is perhaps related:

"Because of the “baby bust” of 1965-1982, there are now fewer non-Hispanic white women in the child-bearing years. White and Asian birthrates are below replacement, black fertility at the 2.1 replacement while Hispanic fertility is 2.99, almost 50% higher than replacement fertility. The large number of Hispanic women in their child-bearing years will increase the number of Hispanic children that are born. "

This is from the Population Resource Center, May 8, 2010.

[billorites]

I think that's the problem I have with it. It's inappropriate for the government to be encouraging or discouraging procreation via financial incentives.

Kinda creepy to my mind.

[Jack Hydrazine]

Thanks. I didn’t realize there was a baby bust from ‘65 to ‘82. Those years roughly correspond to major acceleration of the women’s lib movement when women abandoned the home in droves to search for fulfillment in the men’s world of work. In the year 2000 census there was a 12 or 13 percent increase in the number of women staying home compared to 1990. I don’t know if that is due to more immigrants or to white American women. Even so white women aren’t having children like Hispanic women are. Hispanics still value family more so than Whitey. I know a lady (white) who has a daughter in college who isn’t going to have children because they are too much work.

[Mrs. Don-o]

I agree with you on creepiness. It really is a decision of the couple, not the govt -— and the carrots-and-sticks approach makes the govt. our owner or trainer or zoo-keeper, which is offensive in itself.

[Mrs. Don-o]

The only major white demographic group still showing greater-than-zero growth rate based on fertility are the LDS. This correlates to early marriage, and a high marriage rate.

And they're not really major. LDS are only 2% of the US population.

If you consider homeschoolers a "demographic group," I think they'd show higher-than ZPG fertility, too. But like the lDS, they're still a small minority.

But maybe in a couple of generations.... :o)