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Bill would ban carrying unloaded guns publicly(CA)
signonsandiego.com ^ | 2 June, 2010 | Michael Gardner

Posted on 06/02/2010 4:59:08 AM PDT by marktwain

SACRAMENTO — Assembly Democrats on Tuesday pushed through a fiercely contested gun-control measure that would ban Californians from carrying unloaded weapons in public.

The “open carry” measure, which passed without a vote to spare, 41-25, now goes to the Senate, where its fate is uncertain. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger has yet to take a position.

“With rights come responsibilities,” said Assemblywoman Lori Saldaña, D-San Diego, who is the author of Assembly Bill 1934. “Carrying a gun simply because you can is not responsible ownership.”

The measure failed to attract support from Republicans, who argued that it was tantamount to an attack on law-abiding citizens, it would violate Second Amendment rights to gun possession, and that there have never been any criminal problems associated with open-carry advocates.

“This is a backhanded, even acute way, of implementing gun control,” said Assemblyman Jim Nielsen, R-Biggs. “I assure you that criminals don’t worry about this. They have the guns, and they know how to conceal them, how to use them.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: ban; banglist; ca; democrats; guncontrol; liberalfascism; opencarry; shallnotbeinfringed
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

“The one with the red felt area where you can put your metal rank insignia in?”

That’s the one! And I also got a family name plaque with two name boards attached via chains. One board with mine and my wife’s names and the other with my first daughter’s name! Since then, I have had three more daughters, but I have yet to find a wood shop that can remotely duplicate the work which was originally done in the Philippines! Sad!


51 posted on 06/02/2010 8:57:29 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Hey Congress: Go Conservative or Go Home!)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
No one could pay me enough to move to California....."

True, but it is a good vacation spot...

Some of us don't vacation in states where we can't defend ourselves. Unless I'm alone.

52 posted on 06/02/2010 9:00:22 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: ExTxMarine
"And I also got a family name plaque with two name boards attached via chains."

I have a good story about that. I got one of those when I was in the Phillipines after my oldest was born. The next time I went on float, my wife was pregnant with our second. This is back when people didn't get utlrasounds left and right so we didn't know what the sex of the child was going to be. We decided on names for either a boy or a girl and when I got to the Phillipines, I had one made for each name.
53 posted on 06/02/2010 9:02:49 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: OldPossum
"Some of us don't vacation in states where we can't defend ourselves. Unless I'm alone."

It's worth it just to go to Yosemite...
54 posted on 06/02/2010 9:05:31 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: andy58-in-nh
A good club.....or a hammer.

About the only things I can think of...........

55 posted on 06/02/2010 9:06:26 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Osage Orange

Props for actors in plays...


56 posted on 06/02/2010 9:19:11 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

“The next time I went on float,...”

Well I never made it back to Subic Bay, I made it as close as Okinawa (with family in tow), but never got back to the Philippines. Besides, they had shuttered Subic Bay as a US base by then; heck, our ships only stopped for fuel and R&R.

And I didn’t know that many sailors, except the docs and corpsmen! LOL!


57 posted on 06/02/2010 9:24:23 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Hey Congress: Go Conservative or Go Home!)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

“We decided on names for either a boy or a girl and when I got to the Philippines, I had one made for each name.”

Now that is good Marine Corps planning! LOL!


58 posted on 06/02/2010 9:25:36 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Hey Congress: Go Conservative or Go Home!)
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To: marktwain
“With rights come responsibilities,” said Assemblywoman Lori Saldaña, D-San Diego, who is the author of Assembly Bill 1934. “Carrying a gun simply because you can is not responsible ownership.”

So by that line of reasoning, we should make flag burning illegal too? Freedom of speech is a right, is it not? In California, the legislature can make the constitutional "right" of free speech illegal?!! Because by their reasoning the speaker spoke in an irresponsible manner?

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, Oscar... Elected representatives should take civics 101.

59 posted on 06/02/2010 9:38:13 AM PDT by Toadman (((Conservative First. Molon Labe.)))
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To: marktwain

They want it to be illegal to walk around with unloaded hunks of metal. Guess knives are next.


60 posted on 06/02/2010 9:52:17 AM PDT by lainie (The US congress is full to the brim of absolutely disgusting thieves who deserve humiliating ouster.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
Like, if you're in Yosimite, open carrying an unloaded handgun (because we can do that now thanks to Sen Tom Coburn) and come upon a grizzly. Oh, wait Mr. Grizzly, I have to load a magazine into my pistol. Now instead of dying unable to defend ourselves, we'll just die trying to load a magazine...

Just get one of these, and take your chances with the law. If you're discreet, no-one will be the wiser.

61 posted on 06/02/2010 10:04:24 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Progressivism, Socialism, Marxism, Communism - it's all shades of black.)
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To: Disambiguator

Nice!


62 posted on 06/02/2010 10:12:32 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Vaquero

Well there you go again. LOL


63 posted on 06/02/2010 10:47:07 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Puppage

Depends. It could also make a handy hammer...


64 posted on 06/02/2010 10:47:36 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Disambiguator

Why would anyone want a manpurse?


65 posted on 06/02/2010 1:11:44 PM PDT by fire4effect
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To: fire4effect

It’s really a fanny pack with a shoulder strap. Or a Tactical Diaper Bag. Or a satchel. Or a modern-day possibles bag.

But never a “man purse.”


66 posted on 06/02/2010 1:19:16 PM PDT by Disambiguator (Progressivism, Socialism, Marxism, Communism - it's all shades of black.)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Why don’t you Californians just give up and split up? Your State is lost forever.

The VERY SECOND I retire, I am out of this commie cesspool, never to return. The very second. In the meantime, I make good use of Yosemite National Park when I can. With any luck, the DC liberals will not have killed off their host state of Virginia yet. I would like to invade Virginia and fight on the behalf of the Conservative faction in the Commonwealth and help save her from the DC libs.

67 posted on 06/02/2010 6:09:24 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Liberal are like termites eating away our cultural foundations.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

An unloaded gun is not worth much, so just talking theoretically here, I would much rather not have to hit a perp with the bare knuckles if I had the option of pistol-whipping him with the barrel of a 36 oz semi-auto.

Getting smashed in the noggin with a wildly flailed pistol barrel really gets your attention, and sometimes, a nice long nap.

Just sayin’.


68 posted on 06/02/2010 6:12:52 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Liberal are like termites eating away our cultural foundations.)
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To: marktwain

I live in Yuba City an hour north of Sacramento.

Yesterday at the sandwich shop, somebody came in open carrying a semi-auto. Didn’t look like a cop, but who knows.

Today at the Mexican restaurant, two plain clothes cops in wearing dress shirts and ties but no jackets, came in open carrying firearms.

Man, I just love seeing people carrying firearms in the wild!


69 posted on 06/02/2010 6:20:20 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Liberal are like termites eating away our cultural foundations.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

My heart goes out to you... such a beautiful State... such evil leadership.

LLS


70 posted on 06/02/2010 7:42:57 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: tgusa
Welcome to CA, where your rights disappear nearly as quickly as your money.

True that. I'm praying God moves me to Az with a ministry.

71 posted on 06/02/2010 9:40:57 PM PDT by jokar (The Church age is the only age man will be able to glorify Christ, http://www.gbible.org)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Yet, the leadership reflects the will of the people who keep voting them in.

The voters, well not me specifically, but the brain dead libs are getting the exact government they deserve - incompetent, petty, arrogant, elitist.

California is doomed.


72 posted on 06/03/2010 2:11:09 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Liberal are like termites eating away our cultural foundations.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Yes they are... and the US may be doomed... and both of those things hurt me badly.

LLS


73 posted on 06/03/2010 6:37:28 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I’m with you on the “hurt badly”. I used to be a pretty happy guy and I have a good life. Not idyllic, but good. I am finding it impossible to be happy because of my belief that America is heading inevitably and irretrievably into socialist totalitarian tyranny. Not overnight mind you. But when I think of future generations of kids having less and less and less freedom, and more goverment rules and regulations and laws and taxes and requirements, I just feel sad knowing that my generation dropped the ball and allowed this to happen.

I want to fight back and prevent this from happening, but the organized Socialists and their unemployed freeloader minions keep winning the battles, while we Conservatives are working our butts off trying to make end meet, get ahead, get a little security, and enjoy our little luxuries.

I am very grateful for Obama and the current administration, with Pelosi and Reed. Never in my lifetime have the Socialists so over-reached and tipped their hand. They are really waking the sheeple. It is really happening.

I guess my sadness comes from my belief that there are not enough sheeple to make a difference. Even if we wake all of the sheeple, the numbers of entitlement freeloaders and those who pay no income taxes, is reaching a tipping point of no return where their number of voters is more than our number of voters. That is the basis for my fear that we are heading inevitably toward totalitarian socialism.

Now, if I am wrong and if the numbers of waking sheeple are sufficiently large, we could see a massive voter revolt in America that sets the socialists back decades and halts or slows this inevitable race toward socialism.

My one chance for happiness will depend on the size of the group of waking sheeple. If they seem big enough to halt our race toward socialism, and even if govenrment doesn’t shrink or restore our numerous lost rights, if they at least demand no additional socialist measures (repeal Obamacare, foil Cap and Tax, foil amnesty for illegals, etc.) then I have a chance to be happy once again.

I have to thank Obama, Read and Pelosi for waking the sleeping sheeple to their outright communist desires. Nothing could have been better for the nation at this time.


74 posted on 06/03/2010 3:12:48 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Liberal are like termites eating away our cultural foundations.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Amen and Amen... we will win this because America is awakening. Have faith and stay involved!

LLS


75 posted on 06/04/2010 7:17:49 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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