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Rabbis: Flotilla Clash Heralds Gog and Magog Prophecy
Arutz Sheva ^ | 6-3-10 | Gil Ronen

Posted on 06/03/2010 1:20:34 PM PDT by Never A Dull Moment

Thursday in which it said that the results of the incident in which Israel intercepted a flotilla trying to break the naval blockade of Gaza "place us at the beginning of the Gog and Magog process where the world is against us, but which ends with the third and final redemption."

The statement explained that while secular Zionism always wants Israel to be beloved by other nations, “the legitimacy of our people is not derived from the nations of the world and their poisonous traditions, rather from the Torah of Israel which teaches us that [Israel] 'is a people that shall dwell alone, and shall not be reckoned among the nations'" (Numbers 23:9).

The council blessed the soldiers of the IDF and called for the formation of an emergency unity government that will bring about the salvation promised by G-d.

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: armegeddon; dncintifada; dncvsisrael; endtimes; faith; iran; islam; israel; jews; nato4hamas; obama; obamaintifada; obamavsisrael; terrorflotilla; turkeyvsisrael; turkishintifada; ultraorthodox; ultraultra; zionism
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To: left that other site

Please add me to your Israel Prayer thread ping list. Thanks.


301 posted on 06/04/2010 11:43:49 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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To: BigFinn

You may find this interesting:

Will Islam be our Future?
http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/JR/Future/index.htm


302 posted on 06/04/2010 11:48:07 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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To: guitarplayer1953

what were the first two redemption’s? I can see where passover was one what was the second one?

1. Passover
2. Jesus’ death on the cross
3. Jesus return to redeem His people Israel


303 posted on 06/04/2010 11:51:33 AM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Obama is moving as fast as his feet will take him for this very reason. He feared he might be neutered in 2010.

Please God...

And a hearty round of AMEN! ripples through the crowds too vast to number.

304 posted on 06/04/2010 12:37:11 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: DoughtyOne

Amen to your prayer.


305 posted on 06/04/2010 12:50:40 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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To: Quix
Hal Lindsay was laughed at about 30 years ago when he said that the USSR would disappear and it would be a nation called RUSSIA that would exist during the time of Jesus' return.

Nobody's laughing anymore.

306 posted on 06/04/2010 1:48:01 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: xjcsa
Thanks for the eye witness account of the Roman destruction of Jerusalem! Much appreciated!

I can't address these specifics because you're asking the wrong questions.

Well, no I'm really not asking the wrong questions. There is God-written prophecy in Scripture that has to be dealt with, even though those prophecies are a huge problem for preterists.

The facts are the facts, and the example I gave about the Antichrist are one of those facts that God said will happen that simply hasn't happened yet in the history of the world.

Now if you must ignore or discard Scripture to make your belief system work, then that certainly is your choice, but at least be honest about it. The fact is that the prophetic Scripture is there, and it's either God telling the truth about events that have never happened before which means they will sometime in the future, or it's God screwing up in not letting us know all of this happened already in 70AD.

Because, you know, there is nothing in Scripture that says that the events of Revelation happened in 70AD which means that that belief came from the mind of man and not from God.

Which, of course, is quite a conundrum for preterists.

Here is a link to the dead-tree edition of the same book I linked earlier. Remarkable is definitely the right word.

But that is simply an account of the Roman destruction of Jerusalem, not the events detailed in Revelation. Everybody already knows about the destruction of Jerusalem. That's no big deal. I can get hundreds of books about the Roman destruction of Jerusalem. I asked for a book that could tell me about, for example, Jesus throwing the Antichrist and the False Prophet in the Lake of Fire after a seven year Tribulation which I'm told by preterists happened in 70AD and which is nowhere to be found in Josephus' writings.

Oh well. Disappointed again. The only conclusion I can come to is that prophetic Scripture is just that - prophetic - and hasn't happened yet.

But look! The prophecies for Jesus' return are happening right now! What an exciting time to be alive!

307 posted on 06/04/2010 2:05:36 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: jackv
Why is it so important to scoff at those of us who believe?

Because they've chosen to believe anything and everything other than the simple truth of God's word and when they see people who are not only so certain of what they believe but can provide concrete evidence of the truth of what they believe, it threatens them and the only thing they can do is lash out.

If our beliefs were built on a foundation of sand, and our beliefs were, on a daily basis, being shown to be absolutely un-Biblical and false, we'd probably be upset too.

If you base your life on a false belief system, and it starts to collapse, what do you do then?

308 posted on 06/04/2010 2:13:00 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Marty62

How quickly has Turkey turned against Israel.


309 posted on 06/04/2010 2:16:58 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (God to Obama: Don't think I'm not keepin' track. Brother.)
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To: Quix

In the merit of your kind support and love, May HaShem Bless you and your family, always.


310 posted on 06/04/2010 2:17:26 PM PDT by Never A Dull Moment
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To: left that other site

God Bless Israel!


311 posted on 06/04/2010 3:26:04 PM PDT by Biggirl (I Have A New Rainbow Bridge Baby, Negritia! =^..^=)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
This is a Jewish writer they do not consider Jesus as the Christ.
312 posted on 06/04/2010 3:48:51 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ChocChipCookie

In recent years Turkey has gradually going from a secular gov. to an Islamic State. Clearly they are embracing their return to Islamofascism.


313 posted on 06/04/2010 4:04:53 PM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: Marty62

Ataturk is rolling over in his grave.


314 posted on 06/04/2010 4:05:27 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Yes I’m sure. Everything he worked for up in flames. Sad.


315 posted on 06/04/2010 4:09:40 PM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: LibertyRocks

Thank you.


316 posted on 06/04/2010 4:59:33 PM PDT by alarm rider (The left will always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
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To: Biggirl

Pray For The Peace of Jerusalem.

Amen to THAT!

317 posted on 06/04/2010 6:52:48 PM PDT by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: alarm rider

You’re welcome. :)


318 posted on 06/04/2010 7:37:20 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: LibertyRocks

No sweat.

Threre’s plenty of opportunities for all of us to make mistakes in this complex era.


319 posted on 06/04/2010 7:47:51 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Except perhaps for the clueless rabid clique sorts who seem addicted to mindless rock throwing.


320 posted on 06/04/2010 7:50:29 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Now if you must ignore or discard Scripture to make your belief system work, then that certainly is your choice, but at least be honest about it. The fact is that the prophetic Scripture is there, and it’s either God telling the truth about events that have never happened before which means they will sometime in the future, or it’s God screwing up in not letting us know all of this happened already in 70AD.


I haven’t observed them hereon being honest with themselves . . . much less with Scripture, with God and with the rest of us.


321 posted on 06/04/2010 7:51:48 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Because they’ve chosen to believe anything and everything other than the simple truth of God’s word and when they see people who are not only so certain of what they believe but can provide concrete evidence of the truth of what they believe, it threatens them and the only thing they can do is lash out.

If our beliefs were built on a foundation of sand, and our beliefs were, on a daily basis, being shown to be absolutely un-Biblical and false, we’d probably be upset too.

If you base your life on a false belief system, and it starts to collapse, what do you do then?


INDEED.

WELL PUT.

THX.


322 posted on 06/04/2010 7:53:13 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Never A Dull Moment

HE has already blessed me by your reading my heart so clearly and accurately.

May the blessings you share so caringly chase after you and after those you love, as the Word of the G_d of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob describes.


323 posted on 06/04/2010 7:54:49 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: left that other site; Admin Moderator

Admin Mod,

the count at the bottom shows the thread has posts to 323.

Yet the last post to show is 317.

Any clue what’s going on?


324 posted on 06/04/2010 8:13:30 PM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

I’ve read most of Joel’s books and writings. I totally agree with his assessment of Islam and how it is a part of the endtime scenario. I’m sorry he gave up his blog which was very informative concerning Turkey’s Islamic role. He had some really interesting interviews that he videotaped with an Turkish Islamic writer and evangelist for the coming Madhi/antichrist. Soon after those interviews he withdrew from blogging. Sorry to see him do so. I’m sure he had good reason to do so... probably threats.


325 posted on 06/04/2010 9:14:38 PM PDT by BigFinn (Body language expert: If they are looking left, they're lying.)
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To: Salem

Oh, yes. It’s on now. The game is afoot!


326 posted on 06/05/2010 8:25:23 AM PDT by this is my country
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To: All

I fail to see in all of this why people are getting excessively worked up over a comparative statement issued by a rabbinical council with no particular governing/determining authority...

I do not argue against the Gog/Magog prophecies, nor those biblical prophecies which are clearly and demonstrably related...but the rabbinical council did NOT surmise that this WAS a fulfillment, nor even the beginning of a fulfillment of any portion of any of those prophecies.

They made a comparative finding, stating that “this LOOKS LIKE” the Gog and Magog prophetic utterances.

The anti/non-jews and anti/non-Christians need to trim in their waste-of-breath criticisms, and the hyperventilating believers need to put away the winged shoes for the time being...

While remaining attentive and decidedly vigilant.

I believe the prophetic clock is ticking, and certainly has been since Christ ascended into heaven, it has been ticking louder and with renewed urgency and purpose since the re-formation of the state of Israel, but...

it is the Lord’s clock, figuratively speaking, not ours.

It is within His will and keeping to advance it apace, to constrain its progress, or accelerate it with sudden and sure intent.

IMHO, there are still extremely key pieces of the final “puzzle” which are out of place or lacking altogether. Not simply pieces which are present but that we do not notice - no, important elements that are absent. I cannot put my finger on all of them, but that said, it takes little imagination to believe they could fall upon this world with terrible speed, and bring woe upon the unprepared.

There ARE too many things IN place to be ignored, discounted, or minimized by believing people possessed of common sense.

It will happen soon enough, but for now, there is no reason to run up the credit cards, or give away one’s worldly assets and go stand on a high hill.

A.A.C.


327 posted on 06/05/2010 11:53:50 PM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: Never A Dull Moment

Bookmarked.


328 posted on 09/28/2011 10:08:57 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a Cousin "Pookie" and I don't wear slippers.)
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