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All charges dropped against cop in fatal crash (Chicago cop, drunk killed two)
Chicago Tribune ^ | June 4, 2010 | Matt Walberg

Posted on 06/04/2010 11:44:43 AM PDT by Second Amendment First

Edited on 06/04/2010 3:28:23 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

With a judge's earlier ruling that Chicago Police Officer John Ardelean had been arrested and detained without probable cause, Cook County prosecutors today dropped all charges against him in a crash that killed two people.

The 36-year-old officer was charged with drunken driving and reckless homicide after his SUV broadsided a car on Thanksgiving 2007.


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To: FoxPro
grand-theft and kidnapping

just for starters...guess i got lucky, after blowing as hard as i could and got a .000 i was 'only' ticketed...at which point mrs g went ballistically and was nearly arrested for provoking the 'backup' cop to use his command voice and puff his chest...

ps, i fought the tickets and won...

51 posted on 06/04/2010 12:42:20 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Responsibility2nd
thank God for checkpoints

forget yer sarc tag comrade ???

52 posted on 06/04/2010 12:43:32 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Second Amendment First
"Everything that happened on the street that morning happened in a very short period of time," Gainer wrote. "There was no time to formulate this conspiracy to protect the defendant."

Going thru the academy together and working with each other for years prior gave plenty of time to formulate the "protect our brethren" behavior of the other cops.

53 posted on 06/04/2010 12:44:39 PM PDT by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: cripplecreek

I wasn’t defending the comment. I only stated that it is a “natural response”.

And if FR is lost due to stupid comments, reckless comments, then apparently FR was too late in saving America. Let’s hope not.


54 posted on 06/04/2010 12:46:35 PM PDT by Professional
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To: FoxPro

I was towed myself. They couldn’t find anything to charge me with, so they charged me with trespassing. I was collecting signatures for a petition. I had all the relevant documents, id, etc. didn’t matter.

They are demanding a 700 dollar fine, (which I won’t pay), and a 150 dollar towing fee, which I will hopefully get reimbursed by the petition organisers.


55 posted on 06/04/2010 12:49:30 PM PDT by BenKenobi (I want to hear more about Sam! Samwise the stouthearted!)
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To: Cyman; a fool in paradise; All
From the article:

..."Prosecutors have said Ardelean, who was off duty, drank three beers and four shots at a River North bar just before the crash at Damen and Oakdale avenues that killed Lagunas, 21, and Flores, 22. But officers who had been on the scene later testified they had no indication Ardelean was drunk at the scene.

...A police supervisor at the district later ordered Ardelean to submit to a Breathalyzer, but Judge Thomas Gainer Jr. ruled in April that police had no probable cause arrest and detain him,let along force him to take the test, which did not show he was drunk.

...Gainer harshly criticized police Lt. John Magruder, who ordered Ardelean arrested a few hours after the crash, saying he had detected alcohol on his breath and noticed bloodshot eyes.

...None of the four police officers at the crash scene -- or a responding Chicago Fire Department emergency medical technician -- reported noticing any sign that Ardelean was drunk."

Sorry to quote so extensively from the original article, which is posted above! But emphasis added...leave us not rush to judgement, just because it's Chicago?!

They could all be lying, or they could all not be lying, which makes it no less of a tragedy, but the circumstances are not at all clear from the article how the officer happened to broadside the victims' car...i.e., who missed the stop sign or crossed the road?

56 posted on 06/04/2010 12:50:35 PM PDT by 88keys (they will pry my salt shaker from my cold dead hands)
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To: Gilbo_3

Sarc tag? Are you serious?

Oh. Now I see. I scanned upthread. Saw where you had a nasty enounter with a breathalyzer.

I see you are a drunk driver who likely applauds this cop getting away the murder of two innocents.

Deny if it you like.


57 posted on 06/04/2010 12:51:20 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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To: free me

“The Breathalyzer test administered eight hours after the crash showed Ardelean was well below that level at the time.”

Thanks I just read the original story from the Trib instead of just the summary. But quite frankly what is ALSO not in the summary was that the deceased blew through a stop sign and also had been drinking that night. In addition the article stated that the officer was traveling at 60mph( doesn’t say what was the posted speed limit on that road)and after passing another driver was back in his legal lane and had the legal right of way. Since he wasn’t charged with speeding(the article is mum on that), one would have to assume that the one and only charge could only have been a DUI. I don’t know if Illinois law permits the extrapolation of BAC levels modified by the time of the test since alcohol metabolization is pretty standard. So basically you have two drunk dead guys in a car that blew through a stop sign and were t-boned by another car.

Seems like the prosecutors came to a pretty rational decision based on what I am reading.


58 posted on 06/04/2010 12:52:21 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: Second Amendment First
Maybe it is now time for some street justice to play a role here.
59 posted on 06/04/2010 12:56:41 PM PDT by Ron H. ("Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It" - George Santayana, U.S. philosopher, poet)
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To: Second Amendment First
"A court ruling in this case last month quashed Officer Ardelean's arrest and suppressed key blood alcohol evidence that would have been required to enable the prosecution to meet its burden of proof and proceed with the case in good faith."

"Quashed."

Southside Chicago for "we won and you didn't."

60 posted on 06/04/2010 12:57:30 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Second Amendment First

Give us this day our ‘Daley’ bread....

....nice hat dooooooshbag!


61 posted on 06/04/2010 12:59:20 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Gilbo_3; BenKenobi

I cant fight them, because if I would win, I figured they would just arrest me again driving away from the court house.


62 posted on 06/04/2010 1:00:16 PM PDT by FoxPro (Out side of a dog, books are mans best friend. Inside of a dog, it is to dark to read.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Gee, it is a good thing he didn’t do something really serious . . . like shoot an illegal alien drug smuggler in the butt! < / sarcasm >


63 posted on 06/04/2010 1:01:16 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Cyman

I meant only to explain why the BAC might of been lower, but thanks for the additional details.

As usual it’s difficult to come to any certain conclusions with the poor excuse for journalism out there.

But I think it’s safe to say that the crash investigation could have been done better, leaving no doubt about the officer’s guilt or innocence and avoiding another hit to the PD’s reputaion.


64 posted on 06/04/2010 1:03:47 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012? You Betcha!)
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To: 88keys

You can slam 4 drinks and then head out the door. Officers typically wait upwards of an hour to breath test a driver accused of drunkeness.

Some will blow higher, some will blow lower. Depends on if he grabbed “one for the road” or drank them a happy hour and then stuck around for 4 hours.


65 posted on 06/04/2010 1:05:06 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Throw the bums out in 2010.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
deny what ???

evidently you cant comprehend written text very well, as i stated the 'routine', especially considering it was a fatal collision, would be to issue the BAC test, for whatever arbitrary conclusion it gives...

the fact that his pals did not do so points to complicity and the hypocrisy of the test in the first place...

checkpoints are as commie/fascist as it gets, and the lack of acknowledgement of that brings yer ideology into question, comrade...

dui 'laws' are a joke to my FReedoms, but when someone is injured by negligent behavior, they must be held responsible...if that kind of FReedom scares ya, id suggest lockin yer doors and living in fear...

66 posted on 06/04/2010 1:07:51 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Second Amendment First
God bless our heroes in blue /s-off.
67 posted on 06/04/2010 1:10:58 PM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: Second Amendment First

So let me get this straight - a cop kills two while driving drunk, his fellow cops cover for him at the scene and by lying in court and, as a consequence, he literally gets away with murder?

Nah. Never happens. Just ask any cop.

Just another of the rare, insignificant examples of the 99% giving the 1% a bad name.


68 posted on 06/04/2010 1:11:44 PM PDT by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: Cyman

First I’m a Deputy Sheriff, second I will cut a brother slack on a speeding violation, but never a DUI or especially a Vehicular Homicide. We don’t all have the Chicago mentality

I don’t know what happened here and or if this is accurate information to to make a determination if this is a good or bad call. What I don’t understand about all of the anti-cop people here is they have no problem disputing or scrutinizing the liberal media about other news stories, that is until an anti-police report comes up and they fall right into line with the liberal reporters version, go figure.......

One thing about a Sheriff, he is an elected official and is re-elected every four years and must maintain a public voter support and that means an honest approach to all matters, especially internal affairs.

A Police chief is not a publicly elected official and is appointed by a board of alderman who seem to continue a political appointment of a Police Chief’s career for years without the publics support or ability to make a change in the appointment of a new chief. Maybe all Police Chiefs should be placed on the ballot to help give them a little incentive to maintain an honest force.


69 posted on 06/04/2010 1:23:35 PM PDT by PROSOUTH ( Deo Vindice "God Will Vindicate")
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To: Second Amendment First

Best thing to do is stay FAR away from Chicago.


70 posted on 06/04/2010 1:31:32 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: PROSOUTH
What I don’t understand about all of the anti-cop people here is they have no problem disputing or scrutinizing the liberal media about other news stories, that is until an anti-police report comes up and they fall right into line with the liberal reporters version, go figure.......

Well for one thing, a liberal reporter talking about a conservative will always show a bias, that's politics, but unless you are arguing that all police officers are politicians your confusion is simple refusal to acknowledge that even liberal reporters get facts right most of the time, if there isn't a reason to inject political bias. Please feel free to explain where the liberal bias in a report such as this would be.

71 posted on 06/04/2010 1:32:49 PM PDT by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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To: driftdiver
You MUST know this guy eh?

You're not going to score any points pulling stuff like that.

72 posted on 06/04/2010 1:43:40 PM PDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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To: Second Amendment First

What a backwards ass state.

Maybe the il. will no longer exist after the war


73 posted on 06/04/2010 1:45:39 PM PDT by devistate one four (If you can't feed it, don't breed it! Kimber CDP II .45 OOHRAH! TET68)
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To: SeaHawkFan

I will cheer the attackers on!

Later, I will buy them all the beer they can drink!


74 posted on 06/04/2010 1:47:20 PM PDT by devistate one four (If you can't feed it, don't breed it! Kimber CDP II .45 OOHRAH! TET68)
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To: TankerKC

Wasn’t really worried about points considering the insults that have been thrown my way.

Plenty of folks will excuse ANYTHING a cop does. Those same folks will condemn anyone who questions behavior of bad cops.


75 posted on 06/04/2010 1:48:22 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: American_Centurion

“Well for one thing, a liberal reporter talking about a conservative will always show a bias, that’s politics, “

As you state, a liberal reporter talking about a conservative will always show a bias” Very well put! The enforcement of law has not been viewed by the press in a positive manner in years so why would this be any different?

I’m not taking up for this Officer, I merely stated that I have not seen sufficient or known accurate information to make an honest determination of his guilt or the departments mishandling of the situation, have you?. I also made note that those here trying to throw him under the train without same are relying on an unreliable source of information namely the press.

My only reference to politics was a way to reign in corrupt Police Chiefs by placing them under public selection and continuation of service by the publics vote.


76 posted on 06/04/2010 1:49:00 PM PDT by PROSOUTH ( Deo Vindice "God Will Vindicate")
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
It’s more than just cops IMHO. We’re rapidly morphing into a Party controlled state - if you’re a Party member (cop, govt. worker, politician, SEIU member) you get one standard of justice. If none of the above, tough luck sucker.

That's odd. I remember getting a speeding ticket when I worked for the Post Office. The jackbooted thug didn't tell me that my status as a fellow bloodsucking parasite allowed me to drive as I wished. Similarly, nobody ever told me that I didn't have to pay my taxes.

I guess there is no honor among thieves. Crime isn't all it's cracked up to be.

77 posted on 06/04/2010 2:01:48 PM PDT by Route797
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To: starlifter
God bless our heroes in blue /s-off.

Cops are just like any other group of people. There's good ones and bad ones. It's just that the bad ones have the power to do a lot of evil in the world.

78 posted on 06/04/2010 2:06:21 PM PDT by Route797
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To: PROSOUTH
Interesting point you raise...why would you cut a “brother” slack for speeding?
79 posted on 06/04/2010 2:14:14 PM PDT by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: Second Amendment First
Suicide Pictures, Images and Photos
80 posted on 06/04/2010 2:27:02 PM PDT by redreno (Americans don't go Gault. Americans go Postal.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Drunken, murderous thug gets away with it because he’s part of the right fraternity.

What A Country!


81 posted on 06/04/2010 2:32:05 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: Route797

Yeah, IOW Life’s a b#*#* and then you die.


82 posted on 06/04/2010 2:34:50 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Death and taxes.


83 posted on 06/04/2010 2:36:39 PM PDT by Route797
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To: starlifter

Professional Courtesy is the term used to cover this practice. I’m sure this is a practice common in many other professions and LE is no different. I can assure you that I have cut more slack to John Q.Public than I ever have to another officer on a citation so I guess there is a balance that I see and I’m guessing you didn’t consider.


84 posted on 06/04/2010 2:52:34 PM PDT by PROSOUTH ( Deo Vindice "God Will Vindicate")
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To: Second Amendment First

Apparently, Chicago’s answer to the FSB can do no wrong. Not surprising that it’s the Obamabot’s home town.


85 posted on 06/04/2010 3:02:34 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: PROSOUTH
What I don’t understand about all of the anti-cop people here is they have no problem disputing or scrutinizing the liberal media about other news stories, that is until an anti-police report comes up and they fall right into line with the liberal reporters version, go figure.......

I can't speak for others here, only myself. I have lived my entire life in the shadow of Chicago & it's corruption. There are a number of things I have seen first hand that would turn the stomach of a honest Police Officer.

All I will say is I have the greatest respect for Peace Officers. However, all I seem to encounter are Law Enforcement Officers. The change in title somehow forces a change in attitude that is not for the better.

86 posted on 06/04/2010 3:45:37 PM PDT by Petruchio
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To: Second Amendment First

Look at his friends and associates.


87 posted on 06/04/2010 4:39:38 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Gabrial

No, the civil suit will bankrupt him. I hope.


88 posted on 06/04/2010 4:40:22 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Cyman

Gainer is a connected name in Chicago. Terrence Gainer ran the State Police for a while. He’s a Republican and IIRC runs the police in the Capitol.

I wonder if this judge is related?


89 posted on 06/04/2010 4:45:57 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: trapped_in_LA

The north and south side of Chicago have different personalities.

For instance, traffic cameras are regularly sabotaged (beaten) on the South Side. On the North Side, where most police, fire and city workers live they are tolerated.


90 posted on 06/04/2010 4:48:00 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Second Amendment First

Does he got to red coffee shoppes?

he might get hit with a vegan bagel and tofutti cream cheese


91 posted on 06/04/2010 4:48:06 PM PDT by wardaddy (No mosque at ground zero....are these NYers totally nuts?...what would wake them up?)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Exactly, see what tribalism’s done for Africa.


92 posted on 06/04/2010 4:48:45 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Actually, checkpoints prove the opposite. What’s happening the other six days plus without a checkpoint in place.

If cops really wanted to target drunk drivers they’d set up outside of bars and liquor stores.

Checkpoints are invasive wastes of time designed to generate revenue, not stop DWI.


93 posted on 06/04/2010 4:50:49 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: 88keys
had no probable cause

Bad analysis. A cop leaves a bar after three beers & four shots (over what time period we don't know), t-bones a car killing two people and drunk driving never occurs to anyone?

No probable cause? Not the least suspicion?

94 posted on 06/04/2010 4:54:47 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Cyman

In Chicago 35 MPH is max on side streets.


95 posted on 06/04/2010 4:56:03 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: PROSOUTH
One thing about a Sheriff, he is an elected official and is re-elected every four years and must maintain a public voter support and that means an honest approach to all matters

LOL, no disrespect to your service, thanks, but have you heard of Tom Dart? Are you familiar with the history of the Cook County Sheriff's office?

96 posted on 06/04/2010 4:59:58 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Route797

Correct.


97 posted on 06/04/2010 5:01:33 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Second Amendment First

Forget it Jake. It’s Chicago.


98 posted on 06/04/2010 7:09:43 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government -- Thomas Paine)
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To: FoxPro

>The cop wrote in the police report that he saw my eye twitch.

I feel sorry for the guys with a nervous-twitch now...


99 posted on 06/04/2010 9:48:45 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: driftdiver

>Plenty of folks will excuse ANYTHING a cop does. Those same folks will condemn anyone who questions behavior of bad cops.

Been there; oddly, when I was criticizing the SWAT team in that recent video (where they shot the guy’s dogs) over their tactical procedure [namely: one/two guys splitting off-stack and then having to call for the extra] and the time wasted with the majority (apparently) in the kitchen messing with the wounded dog. {I’m prior infantry.}


100 posted on 06/04/2010 9:59:03 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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