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Fox News 'Forbes on Fox' Panel: Detonate Nukes in Gulf to Stop Oil Spill
Newsbusters ^ | June 6, 2010 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 06/05/2010 9:38:26 PM PDT by Rufus2007

How's this for outside-the-box thinking - use nuclear explosives to stop the BP oil spill that is ravaging the Gulf Coast?

According to some of the panelist on Fox News Channel's "Forbes on Fox," using nuclear materials would be a more expeditious way to solve this calamity.

"That's right, nuke it." "Forbes on Fox" host David Asman said on the show's June 5 broadcast. "Some scientists do advocate this. The Soviets apparently succeeded in doing it. Here is the video they say actually shows it. And now some at ‘Forbes' agree, nuke it.

...more (w/video)...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: foxnews; nuclear; oilspill
So - if Obama takes over, will this be an option?
1 posted on 06/05/2010 9:38:26 PM PDT by Rufus2007
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To: Rufus2007

Idiots. THey are already worried about the seabed collapsing and releasing even more oil because of the pressures caving this in (normal pumping replaces oil with mud/water so seafloor collapse won’t occur).

Nuke it and watch the whole ocean floor open up. They were already worried about leaks opening just a couple miles away.


2 posted on 06/05/2010 9:41:20 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Let’s leave the nuke option for our enemies.


3 posted on 06/05/2010 9:46:20 PM PDT by umgud (Obama is a failed experiment.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“They were already worried about leaks opening just a couple miles away.”

I really don’t think we need to worry that much. The environmentalists and Dimocratz have assured us that there isn’t much oil near the U.S. so how much more can come up? s/off


4 posted on 06/05/2010 9:46:26 PM PDT by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: Rufus2007

5 posted on 06/05/2010 9:46:27 PM PDT by ROTB (Without a Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia during armed revolt.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

As about as stupit as it gets


6 posted on 06/05/2010 9:46:37 PM PDT by tophat9000 (It ain't about Black... It ain't about White...It's about a Red...Trying to take our rights!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

If they could get a nuke down the hole as the Russians did, they could have already plugged this other ways. Detonating it on the ocean floor is insane.


7 posted on 06/05/2010 9:46:46 PM PDT by Ingtar (If he could have taxed it, Obama's hole would have been plugged by now.)
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To: Rufus2007

How is the possibility of a radioactive Gulf a good idea?


8 posted on 06/05/2010 9:50:43 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Rufus2007
It's not an option. The decision to use explosives of any kind is entirely determined by the nature of the leak and the composition of the sea floor. Geologists and engineers have already examined this option and determined because of the fracture characteristics of the location it will not seal the leak, and might make it worse.
9 posted on 06/05/2010 9:53:18 PM PDT by FredZarguna ("I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.")
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To: Ingtar

These idiots just love to say crap to hear their own voices. Did they even think for a second about the sea floor caving in on the oil cavern and releasing everything? Or about the possibility of a tidal wave being generated? Just armchair masturbating nutjobs. Thank God many of them are losing their jobs. You don’t need idiots spewing crap disguised as news. That just dumbs news down altogether.


10 posted on 06/05/2010 9:54:30 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Rufus2007
Because Everything is Better with Nukes™; it's just an extension of Everything is Better with Explosions. Hollywood Logic 101.
11 posted on 06/05/2010 9:56:37 PM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: Rufus2007

Maybe they mean nuke BP Headquarters.


12 posted on 06/05/2010 10:08:39 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Seabed collapse ? The well is 15,000 ft under the seabed.

There was a technique of using a special dynamite (gives off tremendous heat) to melt/collapse the casing/bore way down the hole in a series of staggered explosions, apparently used by Red Adair for one, could be all those who knew how to do it got laid off in the last decade or so.
Not heard it mentioned at all.


13 posted on 06/05/2010 10:13:13 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Rufus2007

That was suggested by about day three- along with the theory that a North Korean mini-sub operating off a mother ship which had just left Cuba had torpedoed the rig.


14 posted on 06/05/2010 10:14:47 PM PDT by JimRed (To water the Tree of Liberty is to excise a cancer before it kills us. TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: 1066AD

Seeing FredZarguna’s post, maybe it was considered after all.


15 posted on 06/05/2010 10:15:20 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: umgud

Nuke an out of control oil well 1 mile below the surface, yep that sounds reasonable....does anyone know what will happen when you nuke a oil well spewing oil gas and methane...sounds dumb to me...must have been a member of mensa that suggested it....


16 posted on 06/05/2010 10:16:37 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: tophat9000
The reality is there is a oil reserve under the sea floor..

Nuk it what you get is a cracked or cratered sea floor...

Basically creating a open pit mine sea floor down in to the that oil reserve.......one total mess

Your trying to seal and bury it, not open it up more

Personal long term I think they will go with a modified dome...leaving the dome open at first and establish a foundation in the sea floor, a seal at the base before you close the top to stop the oil

Drive in to the sea floor A large open medal tube around the well head...basically like a bridge piling

Then you fill the inner area with underwater concrete... to establish a foundation in the sea floor

Once that set up ...the tube bridge piling, now around the well head, has a top that can be fitted after and sealed.

17 posted on 06/05/2010 10:17:52 PM PDT by tophat9000 (It ain't about Black... It ain't about White...It's about a Red...Trying to take our rights!)
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To: tophat9000

The long term solution will be the relief wells being drilled to intersect with the leaking well. They will take the pressure off the leaking well so it can be effectively capped.

Everything they are doing now is a desperation measure designed to slow the leak until the relief wells are finished in two months.


18 posted on 06/05/2010 10:22:27 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: tophat9000

obama will use this power device to brainwash people and said he saved the day. wow this seems all to real


19 posted on 06/05/2010 10:22:55 PM PDT by truthbetold11 (truthbetold11)
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To: tophat9000

Why am I envisioning a huge radioactive tsunami?


20 posted on 06/05/2010 10:30:55 PM PDT by wolfman
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To: wolfman

We can all speculate. I consider the Navy UDT types to have the best divers. Now add the mini subs and surely a solution can be found.


21 posted on 06/05/2010 10:46:20 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Secret Agent Man

Excuse me, this has done before with success. Brighter men then you have discussed it as a viable option. So STFU.


22 posted on 06/05/2010 11:00:21 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: tophat9000

I agree. Nuking the well would be the biggest frac job in history. It could literally open up thousands of leaks in the ocean floor.

No way we should even consider the option.


23 posted on 06/05/2010 11:23:25 PM PDT by DallasMike
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To: Secret Agent Man

Just a thought how to stop the flow of oil coming out of the ground.

Employ a device resembling a canon, in form of a long very heavy metal tube closed on one end with the purpose of launching a projectile. It does not have to have any rifling with the caliber or diameter of the projectile about the same as the bore hole or slightly larger. The projectile could be slightly tapered in front, and be a NONE explosive metal cylinder with a heavy powder charge behind it. Then make an attempt to position it over the original bore hole which may or may not have to be trimmed some what cleaned up to facilitate and allow the entry of this solid metal cylinder or projectile in to the original bore hole.

Then put a heavy powder charge behind this NONE explosive projectile and shoot it in to the bore hole to close it off. Since the projectile would be recessed in this metal barrel or firing tube, arrangements could be made using compressed air to blow out any water first before firing the projectile in to the bore hole, similar to using a torpedo, except in this case the projectile would be none explosive and only used to plug the hole.

The whole contraption in form of a long heavy metal tube could be suspended from cables above and guided over the bore hole and used repeatedly if the initial try would be unsuccessful, then shoot and re-load until the source of the escaping oil is plugged. Also these metal plugs or projectiles could be cast from solid lead what could be easily bored out and restore the flow of oil in a safe manner once its purpose has been accomplished. Even if the first shot would not be successful repeated attempts may cave in the remaining pipe and pound what is left in to the ground, below the ocean floor, similar in effect to a pile driver.

Well this is just a thought or suggestion; shoot something in to the bore hole when everything else failed to do the trick. I am quite certain if a heavy metal dome was fabricated previously to catch the escaping flow of oil in a fairly short amount of time, the contraption as suggested by me could be rigged up just as quickly or even faster. In order to absorbe some of the recoil a large round metal plate could be welded opposite the exit hole for the “Bullet” causing it to push against the water above it. I wish some one amongst the readers of FR who has connections could direct this suggestion to who ever is attempting to stop the flow of oil as I do believe this actually may work, by pounding it shut and in to the ground.


24 posted on 06/05/2010 11:49:31 PM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: Rufus2007

No NUKES...it could wake up Godzilla!!!


25 posted on 06/06/2010 2:08:53 AM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: Rufus2007
Unintended consequences.


26 posted on 06/06/2010 7:25:32 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Flip Both Houses)
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To: Rufus2007

The goal is not to stop the leak, the goal is to stop the leak and have a producing well.


27 posted on 06/06/2010 7:28:11 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ostracize Democrats. There can be no Democrat friends.)
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To: Rufus2007
Why wouldn't it work? It's not a leak. It's a pipe that's driven into the oil reserve thousands of feet down. A small nuke or a conventional explosion near, but not in the pipe, will destroy the pipe and collapse the dirt and rubble around it. The oil will stop flowing out of the pipe.

I suspect they don't want to do this though because as long as the pipe is there they still have a chance of getting a productive well out of it. So they'll try everything they can to cap it.

28 posted on 06/06/2010 7:33:27 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Munz; JustPiper; mojitojoe; Smokin' Joe; LucyT; Squantos; Travis McGee; ExTexasRedhead; ...

PING! Still under discussion?


29 posted on 06/06/2010 8:34:10 AM PDT by Larousse2 (The price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance. ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Smokin' Joe; mojitojoe

ping


30 posted on 06/06/2010 8:58:23 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Larousse2

Thanks for the ping!


31 posted on 06/06/2010 9:48:05 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Rufus2007

We tried to fracture rock with a nuke to see if we could use them to open up new reserves - the heat from the nuke sealed everything shut, the exact opposite of what they wanted but exactly what needs to be done here.


32 posted on 06/06/2010 10:58:29 AM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: Alamo-Girl

You’re welcome, as usual!


33 posted on 06/06/2010 11:51:59 AM PDT by Larousse2 (The price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance. ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: gura
Not exactly. The rock was still fractured, but the gas produced was too hot (radioactive) to be of use. The wellbore was plugged, the surface buildings dismantled and buried in a waste dump. The rock type was different, the formation would not normally produce oil or gas, there wasn't 5000 ft. of seawater overhead, and there wasn't an oil and gas reservoir at depth with some 13000+ psi of pressure (conservative estimate). Hardly the same thing.

The upside? It might work.

The downside? The mother of all frac jobs, a destroyed wellhead, a hole in the gulf disgorging more massive quantities of oil and gas--now carrying with it the radioactive by-products of the explosion.

No one wants to clean it up (because the oil is radioactive, or at least the contaminants in it are), no one wants to drill a relief well, no one will work on any rig to do it, and you have the same problems with oil, only now there is no way to control it until the reservoir depletes--which could take decades.

The Ixtoc 1 well took almost ten months to control, blew out more oil and gas, and the Gulf didn't die off. The relief wells haven't failed, because they aren't even done yet. How about giving the tried and true methods of bringing a wild well under control a chance to work before dashing off half-cocked and making a real mess. They take a lot less time to drill than they used to because of the advances made in drilling technology.

34 posted on 06/06/2010 1:24:49 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Red Dog #1
MUST READ!!

Crudezilla, King of All Spills (1954)

35 posted on 06/06/2010 2:53:51 PM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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