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GOP bad dream: Birther on ticket
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Posted on 06/07/2010 1:46:02 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

GOP bad dream: Birther on ticket By: Kasie Hunt June 7, 2010 03:53 PM EDT

California Republicans optimistic about their prospects in November could find themselves with a bit of a problem after the votes are counted in Tuesday’s primaries - a statewide ticket with the so-called “Birther Queen” as one of their candidates.

Orly Taitz is an Israeli émigré who has spent the last two years filing lawsuits challenging President Barack Obama’s right to be president on the grounds that he was born in Kenya. In the process, she has earned herself $20,000 in court fines.

Now she’s running for the GOP nomination for secretary of state, and with her establishment-backed primary opponent mounting a less-than-stellar campaign against her, operatives say there’s a chance she could win.

“It’d be a disaster for the Republican party,” says James Lacy, a conservative GOP operative in the state. “ Can you imagine if [gubernatorial candidate] Meg Whitman and [candidate for Lt. Gov.] Abel Maldonado—both of whom might have a chance to win in November—had to run with Orly Taitz as secretary of state, who would make her cockamamie issues about Obama’s birth certificate problems at the forefront of her activities?”

“There is no Republican candidate for statewide office that would be willing to have her campaign with them,” says Adam Probolsky, a spokesman for the Orange County Republican Party.

(Excerpt) Read more at dyn.politico.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: birther; birthers; ca2010; certifigate; damondunn; maldonado; naturalborncitizen; orlytaitz; politico4obama; politico4romney; politicoantibirther; taitz; unnaturalcitizenry
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To: curiosity

He won’t release the official short-form either. All he’s released is a forgery. That’s according to the HDOH.

If he’s already released what he SAYS is the genuine COLB, why is he balking at allowing the HDOH to release the certified genuine COLB?


51 posted on 06/08/2010 10:22:38 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion
He won’t release the official short-form either. All he’s released is a forgery. That’s according to the HDOH.

That is simply not true. When will you stop making things up?

why is he balking at allowing the HDOH to release the certified genuine COLB?

Because it is unnecessary. HDOH already confirmed in an official statement that he was born in Hawaii.

52 posted on 06/08/2010 10:47:14 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

I’m not making anything up. The documentation is at http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/

The HDOH has confirmed several different times that Obama’s BC has been amended, which is supposed to be noted on a genuine COLB but isn’t noted on either Factcheck or Fight the Smears. And the certificate number and filing date on the Factcheck COLB aren’t compatible, according to the HDOH. That’s 2 different ways we know the Factcheck COLB is a forgery, based on what the HDOH itself has said.

Hawaii can’t confirm that Obama was born in Hawaii because what they have for him is not prima facie evidence. What they could confirm (if Obama would give them permission) is that they have a CLAIM that Obama was born in Hawaii - which is what Fukino said in her July 2009 statement. She said that Obama’s vital records (plural, meaning that there is more than one document included in Obama’s birth record) include a claim that Obama was born in Hawaii.

Interestingly enough, the AG’s office has backed off of even that much and now claims that Fukino’s basis for her statement was not what she saw on the birth certificate but Obama’s name being on the current birth index list - which the AG’s office says means that the birth was in Hawaii. But if they include in the current index legally deficient records (those which are not prima facie evidence, as is the case with Obama’s) then the birth index says nothing about the legal status of any claims made on the document, including the place of birth.

Furthermore, government officials are required to show the documents on which they base public announcements. That’s because the HDOH, for instance, is not AUTHORIZED to make announcements. They are authorized to release documents, from which people can make their own conclusions. So why does Fukino refuse to release the documents on which she based her statement?

And why did she illegally hide the Administrative Rules until November 2009?

And why is the HDOH destroying permanent records - for which they are now under investigation by the Ombudsman’s Office?


53 posted on 06/08/2010 11:00:56 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion
I’m not making anything up.

Yes you are.

The documentation is at http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/

I saw your blog. You have no record of the HDOH stating his BC was forged or amended.

The HDOH has confirmed several different times that Obama’s BC has been amended,

No they have not. You are inferring (incorrectly) that it is amended based on some of their responses to you. However, you have yet to provide a single quotation from HDOH stating that it is amended.

If you had asserted that statements from the HDOH imply, in your opinion, that his BC it is amended, then you would be telling the truth.

However, since you have no statement from the HDOH that the factcheck COLB is forged, or even that the BC is amended, the your assertion that DHOH confirmed the COLB was forged is an outright lie.

Since lying is a sin, I suggest you stop. Consider this fraternal correction from a fellow believer.

54 posted on 06/08/2010 11:36:34 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

To come right out and say that the Factcheck and FTS COLB’s are forgeries would require more honesty than can be found in the entire Hawaii government. So no, the HDOH hasn’t come right out and said it.

Nevertheless, official communications have revealed/confirmed that the posted COLB’s are forgeries, as I said.

The Final Day will reveal all. Bring it.


55 posted on 06/08/2010 12:53:57 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion
To come right out and say that the Factcheck and FTS COLB’s are forgeries would require more honesty than can be found in the entire Hawaii government. So no, the HDOH hasn’t come right out and said it.

Good. You are telling the truth for the change.

Nevertheless, official communications have revealed/confirmed that the posted COLB’s are forgeries, as I said.

Sigh. Now you're back to lying again.

Once again: for your assertion to be true, you would need to have some quotation from the HDOH stating that it is a forgery.

You have no such quotation. Therefore, you are a liar, whether you wish to admit it or not.

56 posted on 06/08/2010 1:27:43 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

Because he behaves as a man with something to hide. If there’s nothing to hide be done with it.

One wonders since you are so inclined to protect him, as you do so often.

It’s not complicated. But you already know that from thousands of posts.


57 posted on 06/08/2010 1:48:32 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: F15Eagle
Because he behaves as a man with something to hide. If there’s nothing to hide be done with it.

Why would he want to be done with it when it benefits him politically to have a large chunk of his opposition wasting its time and effort engaging in nonsensical conspiracy theorizing?

58 posted on 06/08/2010 1:59:06 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: Sub-Driver

We won’t know till tonight after 8pm.


59 posted on 06/08/2010 2:01:30 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: curiosity

A person can confirm something without coming right out and saying it. For instance, I could say, “There was a choice between chocolate or vanilla. Pf the two, I chose the choice other than chocolate.” There would be no direct quote where I said I chose vanilla, but I confirmed that I chose vanillla.

It’s called deductive reasoning. If that’s too much for you to handle then we don’t have much to say to each other and I don’t have the time to waste on it. Keep calling me a liar; people will see and make up their own minds.


60 posted on 06/08/2010 2:03:56 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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Image and video hosting by TinyPicBirther alert! Image and video hosting by TinyPic
61 posted on 06/08/2010 2:12:13 PM PDT by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: curiosity

It’s not a conspiracy theory that he won’t release it.

But you already know that.

DU probably has a lot of folks that wish it would go away too.


62 posted on 06/08/2010 5:02:11 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: UglyinLA

We are so scruuuuuuuuud/////////////

yes you are.

drill those oil wells and save the country. save your state, save the country. and lets all start to demand that they ENFORCE THE LAWS>


63 posted on 06/08/2010 6:05:35 PM PDT by bitt ( "If this is what Team Obama calls "saved," then please, let me give purgatory a shot. ")
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To: Travis T. OJustice

> “If 0bama was born in Hawaii, why is his SSN (042-xx-xxxx) that of someone born in Connecticut? Hmmmmmmmmmm.” <

Our youngest son was born at NAVHOSP, CAMLEJ, NC. Three years later we PCS’d to 1st MEB, MCAS Kaneohe Bay, HI. During our time there, my wife and I set up a college savings account and life insurance for him, thus an SSN was acquired... an Hawai’i SSN.

One can obtain an SSN later, however, Obama’s scenario stinks to the high heavens!


64 posted on 06/08/2010 6:08:44 PM PDT by Joe Marine 76 (Semper Fi!)
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To: Sub-Driver

That would be SO great if she won. As Secretary of State I’m guessing she could legally ask for definitive proof that a candidate is qualified under the Constitution to be on the ballot in California.


65 posted on 06/08/2010 6:11:17 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Sub-Driver

Who cares what the Politico thinks?


66 posted on 06/08/2010 6:12:33 PM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: TexasCajun

> “There are more birthers out there than being reported and they too will vote in Nov.” <

Amen Brother!

“Birtherism” (and the pejorative term doesn’t bother me) is like the crazy uncle at the Family Christmas Dinner. Everyone knows he’s there, but he doesn’t seem to get acknowledge.


67 posted on 06/08/2010 6:21:06 PM PDT by Joe Marine 76 (Semper Fi!)
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To: ABQHispConservative
Let the people decide, not some cabal of elitists.

Who owns and has writers who write drivel for the Politico? Isn't that the Washington Post as in Compost?

68 posted on 06/08/2010 7:13:55 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: EveningStar
Image and video hosting by TinyPicEveningStar AfterBirther alert! Image and video hosting by TinyPic
69 posted on 06/08/2010 7:18:14 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: curiosity
Why would he want to be done with it when it benefits him politically to have a large chunk of his opposition wasting its time and effort engaging in nonsensical conspiracy theorizing?

Just like quicksand. I hope you and him keep on thinking that.

70 posted on 06/08/2010 7:21:56 PM PDT by this is my country
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To: Travis T. OJustice

duh, this is obama !just because he has a Conn. SS number does’nt mean he does’nt have one for Hawaii,Arizona, California, New York.................didn’t you know that it’s possible for the messiah to be born in numerious states and countries.


71 posted on 06/08/2010 9:57:49 PM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: DouglasKC
That would be SO great if she won.

It should come as no surprise that Orly lost big time.

72 posted on 06/08/2010 10:36:53 PM PDT by lucysmom
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To: Sub-Driver
Form what I’m seeing, Orly got wiped out. Too bad—I would have liked the laughs.

But on the bright side, she put up a better fight than any of her court filings did.

73 posted on 06/08/2010 10:37:33 PM PDT by tired_old_conservative
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To: tired_old_conservative
Form what I’m seeing, Orly got wiped out.

She didn't win a single county, including her own.

Secretary of State - Statewide Results

99.1% ( 22,689 of 22,894 ) precincts partially
or fully reporting as of June 9, 2010, at 6:44 a.m.

Republican

Candidate Votes Percent
  Damon Dunn 1,063,976
74.3%
  Orly Taitz 368,316

25.7%

Source: California Secretary of State
74 posted on 06/09/2010 7:05:52 AM PDT by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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