Skip to comments.New government entity to take control over military and civilian networks
Posted on 06/07/2010 9:29:58 PM PDT by oc-flyfish
This is pretty scary stuff. The Federal government is ready to seize control of private company networks in order to "protect" us in the event of a hacker attack.
“Cloud computing” is not a solution to your problem, it is the problem (you lose the privacy and possibly access, instead of gaining them) and it’s expensive proposition, to boot, to store / backup your data somewhere else.
Cloud is a “back to the future” marketing, not technological concept.
You can encode / decode email and other data, for storage or transport, with private or public encryption methods, and/or split data store / transfer on multiple computers through various P2P (legal uses) algorithms.
I guess this is their backup position or maybe supplemental method versus Net Neutrality.
The Feds can stop the flow of internet information, they can interfere with telecommunications and they can jam radio broadcasts. Whether they could do something to block hams radio users in the entire country I don’t know but they could certainly do it to individual locations. So what’s left, carrier pigeons?
BTW, anybody have any personal experience with or knowledge of the company CYVEILLANCE out of Arlington? Lot’s of government contract work and some disturbing matches if you do a search.
Get out while you can. That’s all I have to say. :)
Sleep well, I don’t see much of a problem here. Something like this was long overdue to be consolidated from several agencies (mostly NSA) into one strat-group umbrella, in light of multiple well known attempted cyber-attacks from China, Korea, Russia, Baltic Republics, Caribbeans etc.
It doesn’t create any new capabilities, just organizes and coordinates them under one umbrella, with people who already worked on this and understand the nature and can possibly prevent enemy cyber-attacks, or help coordinate tracking of terrorist sites.
It doesn’t employ any “new” technology, or any “new” powers, only makes it more transparent, somewhat similar to or in line with FISA Court. If anything, it would be more difficult to abuse with impunity, because multiple agencies’ Op-Centers would go under more central command. Think of it as cyber-DHS.
The door is there.
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I’m a ham and yes, that could be used. My thought is; if the internet is down or blocked to us it IS a legitimate emergency. FCC rules allow almost unlimited usage in an emergency. If we are deprived of FR and other venues of free speech then the game is on anyway.
1984 is upon us....
Refresh your memory about Fidonet.
Learn about them, build a beam antenna, will transmit for 100 miles on 4 watts, can run off a battery, very portable and inexpensive.
All freepers decide on a channel to meet on, buy a radio off ebay for cheap, Start learning.
When TSHTF, one person in a different location transmits for one minute every night at a different location...All hypothetical of course....
Potentially cloud computing. Just don’t use Google!
I’ve been thinking about this very scenario for quite a while. Organization is the key and for FR members it is what we are lacking beyond the internet.
If the government shuts down communication via the internet...chaos will ensue. Psychologically Americans are addicted to information and taking over the net, TV, Radio, phones, cell phones...and issuing propaganda news will not serve them well.
Unfortunately even systems like (FreeNet) that have been hacked. Tor was hacked which is how Wikeleaks was able to download a few million documents in a short period of time.
They would control the utilities as they are part of the critical infrastucture. Scary, eh?
Yup! They think the government wonks can do a better job than the private industry. Give me a greatk.
Actually there is a lot to be concerned about. New monitoring agents will be mandatory which report back to the the agency (EINSTEIN 2 & 3). Action (taking control of a private network, preemptive strike, etc) can be executed simply by a request from DHS.
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Pretty much what I was thinking. The headline is much scarier than the concept. I’m just relieved this isn’t some new “czar” with a plan.
Wonder who they have lined up to play the part of Tokyo Rose?
One can be quite open - even the places like the Golden Corral etc
Just watch for V's and Fives....
I would laugh hysterically if someone successfully hacked “cybercom”. Just on general principal, the government has NO right to interfere with private communications at any level.
It’s quite obvious that their goal is to control communications. The question is, under what circumstances would they want to do so?
I’ve been saying this for almost a year. We freepers need a backup network. Time for ham operators to step forward unless everyone is so scared to do so. Freep mail me and we will build our own airwave path to each part of the country.
I said that on 11/4/08, and was poo-pooed here on FR.
Does the marine radio band require a special license?
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Things have changed a great deal over the last 30 years. Used to be, a Ham radio license required passing a fairly comprehensive test along with demonstrating the ability to send Morse Code at, I think, 5 words per minute or so.
I do have an FCC license for ZA (General Mobile Radio, GMRS).
Funny! Good old FidoNet.
Heh...I'm having flashbacks to two decades ago....to the unrest in the USSR when they didn't cut the 'net connections at first, and I was helping to translate the information coming out. Wow...it might be radios to replace the 'net next time. And who knows, it might be Americans trying to get word to the outside world.
Oh man... nostalgia... http://www.fidonet.org/
Licensing is not an issue. Equipment is.
Back in the 70s, I had a sailor friend that was part of “Illegal Radio Operators of America”
He was running a 10kw station just under the CB Band.
Yeah, we must be old timers. :-)
10 kw? Wow, talk about an alligator!
I am a Ham... the government suspended all Ham Radio activities during WWII and confiscated equipment. I will put an axe through my property before some Fed gets it... that I promise you.
I think they run some of those monitoring programs. They looked at certain pages on our web site - that’s how I stumbled on them. Looked at their web site, did a search on them, searched with their IP block addresses too and didn’t find anything that made me happy to know who they are.
When the SHTF you won’t need any stinking licenses.
Good idea. You know, there are many, many of these types of small groups already formed as 9/12 groups, who get together on a regular monthly basis. There is even one in my little suburb of Columbus (& Cols has a much larger group). Of those 9/12 attendees, I wonder how many are freepers?
When we were out at sea he’d call home on Navy’s 500 watts and his sister would talk back on his 10kw rig.
His car a had 2kw rig with a Dual alternator and battery setup so the car wouldn’t die when he keyed.
Needless to say, he had his equipment seized several times.
“10 kw? Wow, talk about an alligator!”
Funny you put it that way. He was from south Florida.
See my post 97 and the post I was replying to. I haven’t been participating in my local group yet, but it may be the place to start since they are already organized. I know that many folks dislike Glenn, but the way the groups are set up, they have nothing to do with him...they are all about us.