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Teacher to sue after she is fired over premarital sex
Orlando Sentinel ^ | June 8, 2010 | Anika Myers Palm

Posted on 06/09/2010 10:00:05 AM PDT by inflorida

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To: SoftballMominVA
Where they SO messed up was in the violation of the HIPPA laws in that they revealed medical information without her express permission

I do not believe the school is bound by HIPAA. PHI (Personal Health Information) is typically considered confidential info accessible by health care professionals, facilities, and insurance companies.

I don't believe the school is bound any more than your local hair stylist. If he asks you when you got pregnant, you tell him, and he tells his entire clientele, too bad for you.

The actual employment decision (to terminate) has some serious EEOC implications. But the HIPAA thing is a nonstarter. There could be violations of internal policies with such disclosures though.

81 posted on 06/09/2010 10:28:39 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: domenad
The question has a medical connotation to it, they had no right to ask it under HPAA laws.

Pregnancy is not a medical condition or disease.

82 posted on 06/09/2010 10:29:15 AM PDT by Reeses (Sowcialist: a voter bought with food stamps)
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To: texan75010
I believe masturbation falls under the same morality code as pre-marital sex.

Was masturbation covered in the terms of the contract as well?

Is what you believe as important as to the agreement the two partied made prior to employment?

Do the terms of contracts matter in any way if one of the parties decides they don't like them anymore? Should the other party still be bound by the contract?

83 posted on 06/09/2010 10:29:44 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd
The statement in bold, I will point out is an absolute and unavoidable requirement to achieve what you posted. Private medical information indeed.

are you really that ignorant? Do you really think that every child is born exactly 270 days post conception? Google the stats. I can usually ignore sanctimonius jackasses, but occasionally I'll see a sanctimonius horse's ass and I just can't help replying.

84 posted on 06/09/2010 10:29:53 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: Izzy Dunne

What exactly about upholding Christian values in a Christian school do you not understand?


85 posted on 06/09/2010 10:29:56 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (So the writer who breeds more words than he needs, is making a chore for the reader who reads.)
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To: MBB1984; All
Yes, it is amazing the number of idiots on here who will chastise a Christian school for maintaining Christian values.

Unfortunately, the "Christian values" of a lot of FReepers appear to amount to:

It's sad how petulent, childish, and immature these folks are. Essentially, their argument is the 40-year old version of the five year old who pitches a fit when his parent doesn't ler him do something.

86 posted on 06/09/2010 10:29:57 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
"The biblical injunction against fornication, ya think? Seriously, dude, this isn't rocket surgery..."

Conceiving a child weeks before getting married is "fornication"?

"Haven't heard of that sort of thing being slowballed in one of these Christian schools. I think you're thinking of the public schools."

Yeah...OK. I guess fingers in ears is also a "biblical" principal to be upheld too.
87 posted on 06/09/2010 10:30:25 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (Iran doesnt have a 2nd admendment. Ya see how that turned out?)
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To: inflorida

I hope she ruins some careers and walks away rich.


88 posted on 06/09/2010 10:31:15 AM PDT by Melas
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To: Stayfrosty

Yeah, I can’t believe they went to the extreme of beheading her like they did! /s


89 posted on 06/09/2010 10:31:23 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (So the writer who breeds more words than he needs, is making a chore for the reader who reads.)
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To: Stayfrosty
No ones business what goes on in the bedroom unless it is illegal, with a minor, or someone’s life was in danger.

What is "illegal" is defined by "the state," aka Barry Sotero. I thought we were all for the people's right to define morality? Private schools are run by private individuals, aka the people.

90 posted on 06/09/2010 10:32:32 AM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: inflorida

Although the decision to engage in premarital sex while employed by a Christian school was unwise (as I believe all premarital sex to be), the school had no right under existing HIPAA law to ask the question regarding the pregnancy. They can’t even ask that of a person when being hired.

It sounds to me that the staff and parents were engaged in gossip, and so the school decided to assuage that sin by releasing the medical information. There is a greater problem in that school than just this pregnancy.

She’s at fault for deception, but the school broke the law. No one wins in a case like this.


91 posted on 06/09/2010 10:32:38 AM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked." BHO)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
I think your arguments are spot-on, but in appearing to defend this school's churlish handling of the situation, you have picked a tough row to hoe.

92 posted on 06/09/2010 10:33:12 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: Melas

I hope so too. People always point out the negative. At least she is married and taking care of her child. No one can live up to the glory of god. Not even the pope himself.


93 posted on 06/09/2010 10:33:40 AM PDT by Stayfrosty
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To: Stayfrosty
Sex police in people's bedrooms caused by a Christian school firing an employee who did not follow its values?

Police are employed by the government not a church. I will call you exceedingly irrational.

94 posted on 06/09/2010 10:33:41 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

No one is upholding out of wedlock sex. However, once you get self-righteous prigs taking it upon themselves to interrogate pregnant women about the date of conception, you’ve gone waaaay too far.


95 posted on 06/09/2010 10:34:42 AM PDT by Melas
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To: Stayfrosty
It’s funny how much of a hypocrite you are. Bust out the Talibanish rules. once you go down this road where does it stop? You allow this to stand you will have sex police in peoples bedrooms. Don’t laugh, this was actually considered in the church at one time. Jesus would not have approved of this. BTW - this is still no ones business and not her employers business either. Call me liberal call me what you will, but I guarantee you I am much more conservative than most freepers on here. This is just one of those issues that makes conservatives look like a bunch of talibans.

The problem with so much of Christianity today is liberals (and yes you are a liberal, and no, I doubt you are more conservative than most FReepers) such as yourself who can't stand to actually see people and organisations live by the rules they set for themselves.

Sex police in the bedroom? What kind of idiot child hyperbole is this? She was fired (private action) after she violated a stipulation in a contract (private action). Not too hard to figure out, eh?

You are a hypocrite. If you can't stand to see biblical morality lived in a Christian organisation, then you need to stop claiming to be a Christian.

96 posted on 06/09/2010 10:35:09 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: This Just In
She is a teacher, so she should no better

ROFLOL!!!!

97 posted on 06/09/2010 10:36:02 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Retired Greyhound
When she conceived is nobody’s business.

School apparently disagrees with that.

98 posted on 06/09/2010 10:36:36 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

This is not about rules set for oneself, its about rules set for others. That is not Christianity. Christians obey by choice, not by law.


99 posted on 06/09/2010 10:37:00 AM PDT by texan75010
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

You don’t find asking a married, pregnant woman when she conceived to be morally repugnant and criminally invasive? I sure as hell do.


100 posted on 06/09/2010 10:37:58 AM PDT by Melas
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