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Easy enough for Miss Australia - Kristina Keneally's cheap gibe insults Kokoda sacrifice
Daily Telegraph ^ | 10th June 2010 | Angela Kamper

Posted on 06/09/2010 5:02:16 PM PDT by naturalman1975

A CHEAP remark aimed at belittling her political rival has backfired on NSW Premier Kristina Keneally, leaving her under attack from the unlikely alliance of Diggers and a charity queen.

Ms Keneally yesterday mocked Opposition Leader Barry O'Farrell for walking PNG's Kododa Track, saying, "Well, so did Miss Australia - so congratulations, Barry."

But the swipe by the American-born Premier only denigrates the honour of those who fought the Japanese there, the four Australians who died walking the 96km track last year and Miss World Australia 2007 Caroline Pemberton.

"Obviously she hasn't done the trek herself to be making those comments," said Ms Pemberton, who has also climbed Mt Everest and raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for charity.

"To bring up Kokoda in jest is not only offensive to our Diggers, it's offensive to all Australians. Probably because she's got an American background she doesn't know what it means to trek it."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
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1 posted on 06/09/2010 5:02:16 PM PDT by naturalman1975
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2 posted on 06/09/2010 5:02:39 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Pics?


3 posted on 06/09/2010 5:03:42 PM PDT by allmost
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To: allmost


4 posted on 06/09/2010 5:09:00 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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Insults Kododa Sacrifice? As if there's no difference between walking the trail under fire, with a minimum of rations & carrying 120 lbs of gear, and walking it on a lark during peacetime with all the amenities of a modern backpacker.

It doesn't take too much intelligence to be able to discern the intent of the comment. Dunno anything at all about these politicians, but this story itself is a cheap shot.

5 posted on 06/09/2010 5:09:49 PM PDT by skeeter
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No. 1 Enfields?


6 posted on 06/09/2010 5:10:00 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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Kokoda is a pilgrimage for Australians.

You don’t make jokes about walking the track, anymore than an American politician would make a joke about Gettysburg.

Besides, even just walking it is a significant endeavour. Four Australians died doing it last year. Nearly 100 kilometres over mountainous terrain. People walk it for a reason.

No, it doesn’t compare to what the soldiers did. But you don’t make jokes about it.


7 posted on 06/09/2010 5:13:27 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: DuncanWaring

Yes - Rifle No.1 Mk III. Australia retained it as the standard issue infantry rifle until Korea.


8 posted on 06/09/2010 5:16:20 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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I'll defer to your understanding of Australian culture.

The story still reeks of political opportunism, though.

9 posted on 06/09/2010 5:16:39 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: naturalman1975

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kokoda_Track_campaign


10 posted on 06/09/2010 5:17:41 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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http://kokoda.commemoration.gov.au/four-peoples-at-war/americans-at-kokoda.php


11 posted on 06/09/2010 5:20:38 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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bump


12 posted on 06/09/2010 5:22:47 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (1.416785(71) x 10^32)
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Most Americans think the war in the Pacific was an almost total American affair. Not so by a long shot. We could not have had a better ally than Australia. The Australian Troops were some of the best troops in WW2. Their heroic battle on the Kokoda Trail is a part of the Pacific Campaign that most Americans don't know about but should. If the Japanese could not have been turned back by the determined Australian Troops, Port Moresby would have fallen along with all of New Guinea. It could have been a disaster if that happened. But it didn't happen and this is story that needs more attention. In a way it was as important as Guadalcanal.

Does anyone on FR know of any movies made about this battle? If so, I'd like to check them out.
13 posted on 06/09/2010 5:28:57 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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There's a 2006 Australian movie called Kokoda. Pretty good.
14 posted on 06/09/2010 5:32:18 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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There’s a great scene in Kokoda where one of the guys
wants to stop so he can poop, he’s got dysentery and
the guy behind him on the trail takes his bayonet and
slits the guys shorts so he won’t have to stop and
as they continue on you notice that they all have slit
shorts.

Dysentery no fun, had it in Nam.


15 posted on 06/09/2010 5:39:48 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Stories like that make me glad I was in the Navy. :)


16 posted on 06/09/2010 5:41:19 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: truthguy

I had never heard of it, and I am a WW2 buff...

It sounds a bit like commenting on Bataan...


17 posted on 06/09/2010 5:48:42 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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"To bring up Kokoda in jest is not only offensive to our Diggers, it's offensive to all Australians. Probably because she's got an American background she doesn't know what it means to trek it."

Huh? Ms. Pemberton, don't alienate an entire nation just to take a shot at someone else.

18 posted on 06/09/2010 5:50:11 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Anyone can fib. It takes an intellectual to tell a really big lie.)
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I haven’t followed it all that closely but with Rudd/Labor crashing at the polls and the Greens rising, doesn’t this make a Red/Green coalition more likely? Or something similar to the new UK situation? Or (hopefully) can the Liberals/Nats pull it out?


19 posted on 06/09/2010 5:53:50 PM PDT by Heatseeker (Elizabeth Cheney for President)
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Dysentery no fun, had it in Nam.

As did I...got it from eating local "produce" (I think). Went from 165 to 102 lbs. inside of three weeks.
Was two days from being sent stateside when the tide turned, the fever broke, what I ate stayed inside.

Absolute bummer....sent me right back to work!

20 posted on 06/09/2010 5:57:00 PM PDT by Logic n' Reason ("Buzzard's gotta eat; same as worms.")
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I had never heard of it, and I am a WW2 buff...

Then read up on it and you will be amazed at what the Australians did. And you will wonder why it took so long to hear about. We know a lot about the War the British were involved in in North Africa (many Aussies there as well) and we know of the Battle of Britain and other parts of the war where the US was not directly involved. But we don't hear much about the battle of New Guinea in which the Aussies were hugely involved. I'm sure there are many great stories to tell and I wonder why Hollywood has not made more movies about this aspect of the war.

They made a garbage movie called Australia a couple of years back but why don't they make a good one? This is a story that needs to be told. Given a good scrip, it would make an epic movie. Are you listening Spielberg?
21 posted on 06/09/2010 6:02:39 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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Wow. Thanks for the the link to the Kokoda site.

What a wealth of information. The video clip interviews are something else.

22 posted on 06/09/2010 6:16:08 PM PDT by csvset
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To: Heatseeker
Australia has two Houses of Parliament - the House of Representatives and the Senate (as in the US, Representatives are elected to represent particular areas, while Senators represent their state with the same number of Senators for each state).

A government in Australia is formed by the party (or parties in Coalition) with the most seats in the House of Representatives - similar to what happens in the UK with the House of Commons.

The Greens have never won a seat in the House of Representatives, and the best they are hoping for in the coming election is that they might win one for the first time.

If we wound up with a Parliament that was evenly split between Labor, and the Liberal/National coalition, a sole Green MP might enter into an agreement with Labor, but that's the only situation in which it could happen at the moment.

The Greens do have a significant presence in the Senate, and their current polling would suggest they might get a couple more Senators, which might give them the balance of power there, which would make things awkward for whoever is in government, but would not actually change the government.

On current polls, the Liberal/National coalition would win the election. Whether that will still be true at the time of the election is hard to say. If Rudd loses, it will be the first time since 1930, Australia has thrown out a government after only one term - it's unusual.

23 posted on 06/09/2010 6:30:24 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: truthguy

A bit off, but a grate book, Quartered Safe Out Here (1992),george macdonald fraser, a memoir of his experiences as an infantryman in the Border Regiment during the Burma Campaign of World War II.


24 posted on 06/09/2010 6:37:09 PM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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I went to Netflix but it isn’t out on DVD, however you can do a Google Kokoda torrent search and download it. Which I have, but haven’t watched yet


25 posted on 06/09/2010 6:48:48 PM PDT by Leisler ("Over time they create a legal system that plunders and a moral code that glorifies it." F. Bastiat)
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