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Administration Advances Plan to Federalize Private Pension System
The Carolina Journal ^ | June 09, 2008 | Karen McMahan

Posted on 06/11/2010 11:50:30 AM PDT by gartrell bibberts

In February, the U.S. Treasury and Labor departments jointly announced they were seeking public comment on proposed design changes to employer-sponsored 401(k) plans and individual retirement accounts that would centralize the private pension system under structures created and administered by the government.

Supporters say these changes are needed to ensure Americans save more for their retirement and have lifetime income options that prevent them from outliving their retirement savings, protecting them from market risk.

At stake for the millions of Americans with private retirement plans: Would they be able to continue making their own investment decisions? Or would Congress mandate both investment options and distribution methods? Government Retirement Accounts also would prevent workers from owning their retirement savings fully, as they could bequeath only half of their remaining account balances to their heirs.

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: government; pensions; retirement; theft
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To: gartrell bibberts

Land of the used-to-be free, home of the slaves.


41 posted on 06/11/2010 1:01:54 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Gone Galt and loving it)
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To: Waco
Jane Fonda and Ted Turner have a lot of moola and they love communism.

and you can bet your arse they have most of it offshore where it can't be touched by the fedgov

42 posted on 06/11/2010 1:04:58 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: gartrell bibberts

Why not—after all federalizing mortgages worked out just swell.

Congress needs to be told, you take my money, we take over DC.

Enough is enough. These people are out of control.


43 posted on 06/11/2010 1:05:47 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: gartrell bibberts

Since they can no longer steal from Social Security, they need a new revenue stream. Noone will ever see of nickel from a GRA.


44 posted on 06/11/2010 1:06:45 PM PDT by microgood
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To: Nervous Tick

They’d be fine with that and are in fact counting on people cashing out, it’s an additinal 10% revenue to them. They also might get away with this, the entitlement class doesn’t have these accounts so they will support it.


45 posted on 06/11/2010 1:06:46 PM PDT by east1234 (Cut, Kill, Dig and Drill!)
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To: andy58-in-nh

They will set up some sort of a pilot program to allow people to opt-into this new federal plan on a “trial” basis. Then when the market inevitably takes its next steep drop the airwaves will be flooded by testimonials from these people saying “Whew! That was close! I sure am glad I opted for the saftey and security of a guar-unh-teed pention from my Uncle Sam, yes siree bob!”


46 posted on 06/11/2010 1:07:30 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Waco

Yes, but Ted and Jan also “share” that wealth with Democrats by contributing to their campaign funds, think tanks and “non-profit” organizations. Their money is safe.


47 posted on 06/11/2010 1:09:47 PM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: gartrell bibberts

Is it time to cash out yet?


48 posted on 06/11/2010 1:12:11 PM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: funfan

“How will we know when this is going to happen—will we have time to take out our 401Ks before they change the current law on retirement accounts?”

I doubt it. It would probably happen with a bank holiday, announced over a three day holiday, where most markets are closed, here and at least in Europe as well.


49 posted on 06/11/2010 1:29:44 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: Nervous Tick

Same here. And if the FedGov asks what I think of them taking over my SEP, I will tell them F*** NO!

Latest business meeting - NO Fedgov contracts to be bid on. Walking away from some DoD and DoE projects.


50 posted on 06/11/2010 1:37:37 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO! I salute you with the soles of my shoes!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Lots of things need to be stopped. The trouble is the dumbed down publicly educated people in this country since the 60’s. It got PROGRESSIVELY worse each year until now they have the “voters” they need to do what they want. And that is to destroy this nation.


51 posted on 06/11/2010 1:42:26 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: funfan

Must have missed it. Thanks for the link to the comments made. A quick random sampling of individuals yields 100% NO! in a loud voice. I haven’t looked at the comments from “interest groups”, as I’m pretty sure they will be majority favorable. Will peruse in more depth tonight.


52 posted on 06/11/2010 1:48:30 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: andy58-in-nh
And yet, if they are so bold as to advance a plan effectively nationalizing 401(k)’s for example, all that will be inevitable is violence.,/p>

They must be made to believe this. They're hard to convince, though.

53 posted on 06/11/2010 1:52:06 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( My new book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, now available from Amazon.)
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To: Fred Hayek

>> Latest business meeting - NO Fedgov contracts to be bid on. Walking away from some DoD and DoE projects.

Do you have other non-fed work to bid? I hope so. In any case, good on you for standing down from the fed stuff.


54 posted on 06/11/2010 3:35:05 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: andy58-in-nh
That's not so bad, is it?

Ok, you convinced me.....I need a bigger magazine.

55 posted on 06/11/2010 6:21:02 PM PDT by tbpiper
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To: gartrell bibberts

They will take it, spend it, and raise the age you can get it.

and they will get away with it.

So far, no one seems to stop them.


56 posted on 06/11/2010 6:24:37 PM PDT by dforest
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To: taxcontrol

I cashed out my 401K last April. What a relief and I have no regret doing so.


57 posted on 06/11/2010 6:30:40 PM PDT by caww
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To: Little Ray

The fact you are asking that question should tell you something....y the way if you decide to cash it out do so at the close of the stock market.


58 posted on 06/11/2010 6:34:02 PM PDT by caww
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To: tbpiper
Well, for most purposes, 30 rnd. mags in 5.56 or 7.62 ought to do. You must hope to never, and mean ever use them in anger, but we all need to be prepared in case sanity and reason fail. There are too many people out there eager to justify theft in the pursuit of power, and to do so in the name of a perverse idea of "justice".
59 posted on 06/11/2010 7:24:53 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: andy58-in-nh
You must hope to never, and mean ever use them in anger

Well maybe the first couple of rounds would be in anger, the rest would be pure maniacal joy....:-]

60 posted on 06/13/2010 11:44:52 AM PDT by tbpiper
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