Skip to comments.Saudi Arabia Gives Israel Clear Skies To Attack Iranian Nuclear Sites
Posted on 06/11/2010 6:01:40 PM PDT by Strategy
Saudi Arabia has conducted tests to stand down its air defences to enable Israeli jets to make a bombing raid on Iran's nuclear facilities, The Times can reveal.
In the week that the UN Security Council imposed a new round of sanctions on Tehran, defence sources in the Gulf say that Riyadh has agreed to allow Israel to use a narrow corridor of its airspace in the north of the country to shorten the distance for a bombing run on Iran.
To ensure the Israeli bombers pass unmolested, Riyadh has carried out tests to make certain its own jets are not scrambled and missile defence systems not activated. Once the Israelis are through, the kingdom's air defences will return to full alert.
"The Saudis have given their permission for the Israelis to pass over and they will look the other way," said a US defence source in the area. "They have already done tests to make sure their own jets aren't scrambled and no one gets shot down. This has all been done with the agreement of the [US] State Department."
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Would one of you please ping me if someone puts up a good list of corresponding ‘Kingdoms’ and Countries? I would really appreciate it. Someone put up one the other day, but I can’t find it now. Thanks! :0)
Just a question: WHY is this on the net???
Because there is no controlling entity on the Internet ... LOL ...
Whats in it for Saudi Arabia?
A good laugh at their enemy ... :-)
Exactly my sentiments.
And, Barry doesn’t seem to have any problems with significant force when it’s directed against the “right” folks. Case in point: he bemoans “tough interrogation”, prosecutes a Navy Seal who smacks a terrorist who killed and burned our civilian contractors, has ROEs in Afghanistan in which it’s almost impossible for our guys to shoot the Tahhhhleeeebohnnnn, etc. Yet, when it comes to Al Queda, it’s drones and hellfire missles galore! Women and children getting incinerated and obliterated as collateral damage? Hey, no worries! Barry’s even cool with having the UN (the vaunted “international community”) and even the ACLU screaming bloody murder.
Very bizarre stuff, no doubt. Here’s President Pantywaist, Mr. “There is not such thing as radical Islam” - guy who has a Natl Security Advisor saying there is no such thing as Jihad, or a war on terror. Yet, same guy is out-Bushing Bush when it comes to slaughtering Al Queda by remote control! For whatever reason, in his calculations, Al Queda is sacrificeable. Perhaps it’s not too far a stretch to contemplate that Iran might eventually fall into the same category. Especially if his hands are “clean” in the matter and he can also point to all the “reaching out” he did - “Let me be clear, I gave the Iranian leaders every chance to change course and join the international community” (can’t you just see these words on the TOTUS?)
Saudis are more afraid of Iran then even Israel.
Yeah, the Saudis know that Israel will never attack Saudi Arabia, but they're not sure about Iran ... LOL ...
Gee, someone that gets it. LOL!
IMHO, we're quite possibly seeing the alignment take shape for the Ezekiel 38 War of Gog & Magog; specifically, an alignment between Russia, Iran, and Turkey is the core of the E38 Gang o'Thugs, and we're seeing just such an alliance form before our very eyes.
I've become convinced that the war of Psalm 83 comes first, however. The P83 alliance is basically a ring of Israel's neighbors, none of which are mentioned in Ezekiel. It is IMO highly unlikely that the E38 alliance (Russia/Iran/Turkey/etc.) would attack Israel, and Israel's neighbors wouldn't take part. Palestinians. Lebanon. Syria. All these are a part of the P83 anti-Israel alliance. I think it comes first; Israel neutralizes these nations, which explains why they aren't a part of the E38 alliance.
Hope that makes some sense. I go into a lot more detail about this very issue in my blog which is linked below.
I was reading a while back at Wikipedia about Islam. Most of their ‘holy’ booksit were transcribed from an oral tradition after hundreds of years. It’s not always clear that they were able to keep things intact (think of the game telephone for example).
There is also a portion of the texts that Sunnis put more trust in versus Shiites. I can’t remember which one listens to the Hadiths more, and which one listens to the Suras more. That’s at the heart of their problems, frankly.
One of the books (again I can’t ever remember which) is a collection of passages said by those who came after Mohammed. It is in there that you find that passages about the treatment of infidels, and the instructions to lie.
I was also looking at the list of the 99 names (attributes) of god in Islam at Wiki, and there was one in which they called him the deceiver. And that’s in the same part of their holy books that instructs killing of infidels as well.
It’s just not right... It’s chilling really.
The House of Saud know if they supported this they would be overthrown in a heartbeat.
We’re On The Brink in so many areas. And the worst case scenario for us is having a lunatic at the helm. God help us.
I wouldn’t be surprised if W and Dick Cheney arranged something before they left office.
It worked back then. I’m not sure what they have now. sonofstrangelove may know.
I’m not sure if the Saudis had a phased-array land system which would have been relatively modern in 1981.
Given the limited number of F-15 and F-16 I wonder what equipment the IAF will use. Perhaps specially equipped A-4 with CAP of F-15E?
The Saudi "royal family"'s continuance in power.
The muzzie whackjobs are their enemy also.
Add to that the Iranians consider the House of Saud to be something akin to heretics.
Add to that the whole Sunni vs. Shia thing on top of the ethnic rivalries between the Persians and the Arabs.
The Saudi royal family wants to toe the line between Islamic and Westernized. It’s good for business.
Or, for those of us who can’t reconcile the idea of a pre-tribulation rapture with scripture, this war could be the trigger for the rise of the Antichrist, who will make a peace treaty between the Islamic world and Israel.
Isaiah 30:27-33 gives us a clue — the Antichrist is from the former kingdom of Assyria, which includes much of modern-day Turkey.
Turkey’s been in the news a lot lately. Remember that it was the head of the Ottoman Empire, which controlled the region for centuries and was the head of the Islamic world. The Ottoman Empire fell apart, but many want to revive it.
What better way to unite the Islamic world than a stunning attack on Iran and possibly a following regional war?
The earliest known commentary on Revelation, from about 250 AD, identifies “the Assyrian” (Asshur) in the Isaiah passage as the Antichrist.
The countries described in the “Gog-Magog war” are the same ones described in Revelation, and both end with the Messiah coming to pour out his wrath. The wrath is not the tribulation, but is the second coming of Christ.
I believe that the Gog-Magog war and the war in Revelation are not two different wars, but rather the same war.
The Orthodox Jewish blogs are expecting the Gog-Magog war soon. Our Jewish friends believe that that the Messiah will intervene, punish the Assyrian and his people, and restore the world.
By the way, this is nothing to divide on. I came to this conclusion after 20 years of heavy study and have found that many others now believe the same. If I’m raptured before the tribulation, I’m not going to argue theology with Jesus on the way up.
One way to boost oil futures...and integrated/major oil co. share prices...just sayin’
Thanks for the ping!
And of course within 24 hrs after the raids you can bet any money that the Saudi and the world’s arab press will be running 24x7 news CONDEMNING the Evil Jews
It would leave Russia for the Gog & Magog scenario.
Me neither. I'm just going to sit down next to Him, have a cold beer and watch the show!
Wow! Other than the oil, they sure got stuck with some lousy real estate!
My thinking is that Israel will start the war, “forcing” us, Britain and France to finish. Israel will willingly be made to look like the scapegoat for our interests. We all want Iran disarmed, President Obama doesn’t want to look like a hawk, so he will let Israel start it and then claim that we had no choice but to finish the job to contain what would otherwise be escalation in the region.
PRAYERFULLY, all those who truly seek God are ready for HIS appearing.
PLEASE, Make it so, Lord, God.
Plausible, to me.
BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD.
BLESSED BE THE WORD OF THE LORD.
BLESSED BE THE PEOPLE OF THE LORD.
BLESSED BE THE WAYS OF THE LORD.
BLESSED BE THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC AND JACOB.
BLESSED BE THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY!
Would one of you please ping me if someone puts up a good list of corresponding Kingdoms and Countries? I would really appreciate it. Someone put up one the other day, but I cant find it now. Thanks! :0)
Star Traveler might know where it is.
I don’t *think* Alex Murphy keeps track of that sort of thing.
I think you and Start Traveler are likely quite right on that.
If it were earlier, I might go looking ... but this isn’t “morning” for me ... it’s still “last night” and time to go to bed ... :-)
There are purportedly an additional few to several completely ‘unheard of’ weapons systems the Israeli’s may bring to bear on it, as well.
Lots of exotic things are going to be loosed on the world in the not too distant future, imho.
Love your last paragraph!
Worthy points you make in your post.
I’m still skeptical that the two wars are the same.
I’m still quite skeptical that the pre-trib Rapture is not true.
Nevertheless, I don’t plan to argue theology with God, either.
He has promised to never leave me nor forsake me and to take me ultimately to be more intimately and thoroughly with Him wherever He is. That will be sufficient. He alone is my high tower, defense, provision, all in all.
If anybody had told me, say, five years ago that the Saudis would be a better ally to Israel than we are, I would have called on the guys in the white suits with the padded rooms to have the person committed.
Once such festivities start,
the dust will not settle until
AFTER THE BIBLICAL ARMAGEDDON.
Such an assault will quickly develope into a global war with wholesale assaults on CONUS.
You mean will zero give the IRANIANS overflight passage over Iraq, right?
It is conceivable that the global ‘authority’ would arise and prevent such temporarily. But I don’t think so. I think it is scheduled that the USA be mostly destroyed as a way to shock and coerce the world more easily into a global government with the USA, it’s Constitution and freedoms mostly out of the way.
And far stranger things than that are on the near horizon.
Well since Obama said that if the IAF flies over Iraq, our USAF will prevent them from passing thru, thus, in effect providing Iran with free air defense.
Obama : WORSE PRESIDENT EVER>>>>>>>>
Saudi Prince Turki bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud has warned the country's royal family to step down and flee before a military coup or a popular uprising overthrows the kingdom.
In a letter published by Wagze news agency on Tuesday, the Cairo-based prince warned Saudi Arabia's ruling family of a fate similar to that of Iraq's executed dictator Saddam Hussein and the ousted Iranian Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, calling on them to escape before people "cut off our heads in streets."
He warned that the Saudi royal family is no longer able to "impose" itself on people, arguing that deviations in carrying out the religious concepts that make up the basis of the Saudi government "have gotten out of our hands," so that the opposition views our acts as "interfering in people's private life and restricting their liberties."
"If we are wise, we must leave this country to its people, whose dislike for us is increasing," said Prince Turki, advising Saudi officials to escape with their families.
"Do it today before tomorrow as long as the money we have is enough for us to live anywhere in the world; from Switzerland to Canada and Australia we should not return as long as we are able to get out safely, we must take our families quickly and pull out," he urged.
"Do not fool yourself by relying on the United States or Britain or Israel, because they will not survive the loss; the only door open is now the exit door of no return. Let us go before it closes."
He finally warned against a military coup against the ruling family, saying "no one will attack us from outside but our armed forces will attack us."
Prince Turki is a member of the liberal Free Princes movement founded in the 1950s amid tensions between King Faisal and his brother King Saud, requesting the Saudi authorities to implement political reforms and set out a constitution.
The late King Faisal expelled members of the civil rights group to Egypt but later on pardoned them.
I always knew that Saudi Arabia would be involved, because God said they will, but it just seems more understandable with the royal family out of the way and the Saudi military taking over.
If this guy is right.
Posting some gleanings from ATS of interest to folks such as are interested in this thread . . .
About 4-6 posts down on that thread:
posted on 28/12/2009 @ 07:54
We are constantly conditioned by the media and our surroundings. Normally we are unaware of this process. Many influences are probably by chance, but some are calculated forms of social engineering. Some facts are presented in fiction movies. If you try to inform other people about these facts, you will face ridicule. Ah, I have also seen this movie.
Today many people believe mind control and Manchurian Candidates are just fiction. They forget about the Church Committee and MKULTRA.
In plain view hidden crimes and secrets are awful. But I think even more dangerous is, that new ideas and moral values are planted into educational programs, MSM and movies. These ideas are distributed via variuos seemingly disconnected sources. But they alter our moral values and perception of reality. The unthinkable becomes thinkable.
Before the big brother state was advanced, people lived together in a large house, isolated from the outside world but continuously watched by television cameras. Now MTV seems to show only crap of this kind. Reality TV follows people and publishes their privat live. Many people now no longer see surveillance as an intrusion.
Enemies are dehumanized until they are merely subhuman. So violence against these “hostile barbarians” becomes reasonable. This happened with Iraq and Afghanistan, now it is Irans, Pakistans and Yemens turn. But even before 9/11 and the news showing heartless fanatics, countless action movies featured arabic speaking insane terrorists, who tried to attack America for obscure reasons.
Torture as valid tool to counter terrorism is not only propagated by news pundits, but is also used in the 24 TV series. Now the majority of all US citizens believes torture is a valuable tool, which can be used to fight terrorism.
Computer games are sponsored by the army. They mimic real weapon systems and train children to become future drone pilots.
The scary part is, that if you suspect such a manipulation and try to warn your friends, relatives, neighbours and colleagues about such developments, they will think you are crazy. Most people believe, that they are not easily manipulated.
WORLD DEPOPULATION PLANS ON FOX NEWS:
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World Depopulation Plan On Fox News!!!
So i’m sure most of us on here have heard plenty about depopulation, from the Georgia Guidestones to Bill Gate’s speech on TED, but now it’s actually making main stream news. so does anyone still think this is crazy conspiracy stuff haha? I really never thought i’d see the day they’d openly discuss something like this.
i like how he goes, “We don’t use the word undesirable.” i cracked up when i heard that because all i thought was, “Yeah, he probably rather use “useless eaters” like Kissinger does instead.” haha so ridiculous.
(visit the link for the full news article)
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Report of 2010 Bilderberg Meeting
The Bilderberg boys were so depressed as they gathered at the Dolce luxury hotel in Sitges, Spain June 3 that “many important people are not showing up,” because “they always find out and we get into trouble at home,” said one, echoing the sentiments of all.
Still, they hope to inflict much evil on the world. An unprecedented but fruitless effort to hide the Bilderberg meeting this year was conducting the Group of 20 (G-20) economic meeting in Busan, South Korea.
Always before, like clockwork, the Bilderberg group would meet on the same continent as the G-20: Europe or North America. This, too, proved futile. Bilderberg was greeted with a hostile press and public.
Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner was conspicuous at G-20. The meeting ended Saturday. But, with a 12-hour time difference, Koreas Saturday ended in plenty of time for Geithner to join his Bilderberg buddies.
Bilderberg had bad news out of the G-20 meeting. Not only was G-20 pessimistic about survival of the euro, it gave up on establishing a global bank tax following complaints from Canada, Australia, Brazil and India.
Both the international currency and international bank tax are crucial to Bilderberg’s plan to establish a world “Treasury Department.”
The London Times had an advance story headlined “Secretive Bilderberg Club Ready for Protests.” It said David Rockefeller and colleagues would be graced with the presence of Spanish Prime Minister Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, who will give a welcoming address. It is routine for the head of state of the host countryexcept in the U.S. — to give a 30-minute welcoming address, then be required to leave.
The smallest, purely local newspaper is invited to cover this event, but no questions. The story, designed to reassure locals that nothing ominous is taking place behind the armada of armed guards, is approved by Bilderberg before publication.
Also attending from Spain were Foreign Minister Miguel Angel Moratinos and former Economy Minister Pedro Solbes.
The Guardian of London carried a commentary by Charlie Skelton, who humorously observed that Spain was hoping the arrival of Bilderberg will not have the same effect suffered by the last country to host Bilderberg. In 2009, Bilderberg met in Greece, and within a year the country was bankrupt and people were rioting in the streets.
Sadly, Bilderberg remains committed to a U.S. attack on Iran on Israel’s behalf. But the cruel and clumsy attack on a flotilla bringing food and medicine to the besieged Palestinians in the Gaza Strip backfired, too. World outrage, including from many Jews, left Bilderberg gasping.
There is division within Bilderberg; most Americans want war, but some Europeans oppose air strikes. Many argue that Iran is not making nuclear weapons, while, they point out, Israel has had nuclear weapons since 1962. This was made public by the late Bilderberg luminary, George Ball, who was No. 2 man in the State Department under both presidents John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson.Iran is building nuclear weapons, which poses a threat, not only to Israel, but also to all of Europe and, potentially, to the United States,” said an American, but not to universal agreement. “We’re not sure of that,” a European countered. “And you have a lot more dead boys than we do.”” Israel may have to conduct a preemptive strike to protect itself from a nuclear Iran,” said an American, believed by the inside source to be Keith Alexander, director of the National Security Agency, but not positively identified. “The term ‘preemptive strike’ was invented by Israel as a synonym for waging aggressive war in 1968,” the European countered. “Israel bombed Egypt in a surprise attack, wiping out the Egyptian air force on the ground. Israel was under no threat at all.” The American walked away, shaking his head with a “where have I failed?” look.
They are still trying to exploit the myth of “global warming” to establish a world Department of Energy although one mourned that we are about whipped on climate change. Leading climatologists say fluctuations in Earths temperature are natural. Global warming claims are a fraud, they say.
A newly leaked internal document outlines how Spains green economy initiatives have been a financial disaster, reported David E. Robinson, in his newsletter Brunswick Bits Abound. The report suggests that the real rate of job losses as a result of green policies is in fact worse than the 2.2 jobs lost for every one gained and that the green economy must be abandoned if the country is to save itself from economic ruin, Robinson stated.
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The Kids Aren’t Alright
With all of the political drama happening...I just don’t think many of you realize the consequences of what is happening right now in our country.
. . .
Our kids are growing up with a poor education and no future. They have no prospects. They have no great vision. THEY HAVE NOTHING BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE LEFT THEM.
They are not lazy, they are not ignorant. We left them with a path that leads nowhere.
THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES. Yeah, none of the highly conservatively leaning ATS members will state this, but I WILL....nor do I care about what anyone states about me.
The Tea party movement has NOTHING compared on what is soon to come. You haven’t seen the real anger yet...and WOW....I know it’s coming.
I hope you are ready....the kids aren’t alright....THEY ARE P*SSED.
The Feminist MovementRuining The Image Of Men
It seems that todays feminism is all about reducing the male gender to nothing. Continually pushing an agenda that seeks to demonize and put down the male perspective in favor of that of women.
I have seen this happen first hand in the media, court systems (primarily family court) and in societal settings in general. It seems in this day and age the women are the rulers and we are the slaves.
Theres also over the past decade or so, a movement that has arisen to feminize men into being more women like. The age of the lumber jack and the protector are days of the past it seems. Women crave the sensitive, emo type character we see in the movies and books of todays youth.
You could also use the new term Metro Sexual as the defining label to this new bread of men.
I want to open a discussing about the points made above, in regards specifically to men being looked down upon as second class citizens, and being forced to change themselves in order to be successful in what I call todays Womans World.
RED DAWN 2010 release may be delayed indefinitely . . .
INTERESTING contentions, assertions about the Jacksonville vehicles purported originally to be UN etc.
confirmed ! Russian and Japan War Ships Coming to SF
A Russian warship will pay a rare visit to San Francisco later this month.
The guided missile cruiser Varyag left Vladivostok on June 4 bound for San Francisco and will arrive on June 20 for a five-day stay.
The cruiser sailed in company with the Russian navy tanker Boris Butoma and the salvage tug Fotiy Krylov. It was not clear whether these two ships will accompany the Varyag to San Francisco.
The Russian ships are commanded by Rear Adm. Vladimir Kasatonov, and the purpose of the visit, which may include other California ports, is to promote U.S.-Russian military cooperation, according to a spokesman for the Russian Pacific Fleet.
No one at the port of San Francisco could remember the last time a Russian naval vessel visited the West Coast, though merchant ships from the Russian Far East occasionally call at San Francisco Bay.
June 20 will be a busy day on the San Francisco waterfront. Three Japanese Self-Defense Force vessels, all warships, are expected that day. If all six vessels arrive that day, it will be the largest number of foreign warships to call at San Francisco in many years.
Dat’s all folks, for now.
Enjoy. Somethings slightly different than the OThuga horrors . . . sort of . . .
Good points, imho.