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Remaining schools in Big 12 close to saving league
Orangebloods.com ^ | June 14, 2010 | Chip Brown

Posted on 06/14/2010 11:12:28 AM PDT by Will88

In a bombshell development that could bring a halt to seismic changes in college realignment, sources tell Orangebloods.com Texas is at the table with the 10 remaining Big 12 schools working on a TV deal put forth by commissioner Dan Beebe that would hold the conference together.


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Beginning at 2:00 CDT, Paul Finebaum in Birmingham will be talking about this, and trying to get current information, I’m sure. It was on his show last week that Texas A&M regent Gene Stallings first gave strong indications that he and others might prefer the SEC for A&M.

Finebaum has been popular in Alabama and surrounding staters for years and now has gone national on one of the satellite channels.

http://www.finebaum.com/


51 posted on 06/14/2010 11:45:42 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Sic Parvis Magna

Texas A&M is now most likely to join the SEC according to ESPN and reliable SEC sources confirm A&M has been invited.

If A&M comes over to the SEC, then one other team (most say VA Tech, Clemson, Fla St or Miami) will come to the SEC. Others say UVA state officials would not allow VA Tech to move. I’m also told that USC will not agree to Clemson moving to the SEC?

Does anyone know about Southern Mississippi chances of joining the SEC?


52 posted on 06/14/2010 11:46:08 AM PDT by luckybogey
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To: trumandogz

I don’t know. Will t.u. change the lyrics to their fight song?

Lyrics to”Texas Fight”

Texas Fight, Texas Fight,
And it’s goodbye to A&M.
Texas Fight, Texas Fight,
And we’ll put over one more win.
Texas Fight, Texas Fight,
For it’s Texas that we love best.
Give ‘em Hell, Give ‘em Hell, Go Horns Go,
And it’s good-bye to all the rest!
Yea Orange! Yea White!
Yea Longhorns! Fight! Fight! Fight!
Texas Fight! Texas Fight,
Yea Texas Fight!
Texas Fight! Texas Fight,
Yea Texas Fight!
The Eyes of Texas are upon you,
All the livelong day.
The Eyes of Texas are upon you,
You cannot get away.
Texas Fight, Texas Fight,
For it’s Texas that we love best.
Hail, Hail, The gang’s all here,
And it’s good-bye to all the rest!

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Fight[/url]


53 posted on 06/14/2010 11:46:15 AM PDT by me1og
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To: Gulf War One
espn has no clue what is going on (so far Chip Brown has the best information that I've seen); and I just can't stand espn.
Maybe Arkansas, but I don't see LSU as a natural rival; they certainly wouldn't be the kind of rival that Texas currently is, since they have stronger traditions with other SEC schools and more hate.

Even with the reports that they are trying to save the Big12, I just don't see it happening.

54 posted on 06/14/2010 11:47:26 AM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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To: BnBlFlag

At least the Longhorns will not have to change their fight song.

And the Longhorns will continue to earn more money than any other NCAA program.


55 posted on 06/14/2010 11:47:34 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: texanyankee

Connection to Bama is weak imho, not really the stuff rivalries are made of, plus they’re further removed than an LSU or Arky.


56 posted on 06/14/2010 11:48:45 AM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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To: trumandogz

Try again. They mention TAMU in the second line of their fight song.


57 posted on 06/14/2010 11:49:47 AM PDT by me1og
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To: trumandogz

I think you have your facts all wrong. That the Big-12 came to this juncture can be squarely placed at the feet of tu.

We won in 2006 & 2007, lost in 2008 & 2009 (barely) and will probably win this year.

Retreat to the SEC...you’re joking, right?

By the way, you brought up service to the nation. May I ask, did you serve?


58 posted on 06/14/2010 11:50:05 AM PDT by Gulf War One
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To: luckybogey
Don't see any ACC teams coming over. They have renegotiated their contract, and Miami has come out against leaving the ACC.

The other thing to keep in mind is if the TXLege will let A&M and Texas go there separate ways.

59 posted on 06/14/2010 11:51:17 AM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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To: Will88
The ONLY workable realignment:

SEC-SEC Division
SEC-PAC10 Division
SEC-BIG12 Division
SEC-BIG10 Division
SEC-MountainWest Division
SEC-BigEast Division
Etc.

60 posted on 06/14/2010 11:52:32 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (Flame away...)
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To: Will88

Radio show I listen to was playing a call from that station this morning: caller was taking about how ND has destroyed the Big10. I had to laugh.


61 posted on 06/14/2010 11:53:44 AM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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To: me1og

And the Aggie fight song mentions UT in a total of 14 lines!


62 posted on 06/14/2010 11:54:02 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Sic Parvis Magna
but I don't see LSU as a natural rival

That's because you've never been to an LSU-A&M game. So far there have been 49 of them.

63 posted on 06/14/2010 11:54:43 AM PDT by Gulf War One
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To: Sic Parvis Magna
Radio show I listen to was playing a call from that station this morning: caller was taking about how ND has destroyed the Big10. I had to laugh.

Finebaum makes regular callers a part of his program more than most talk show hosts. Some of those callers are regular for their knowledge, and some for their entertainment value.

64 posted on 06/14/2010 11:56:26 AM PDT by Will88
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To: trumandogz

Actually, they don’t mention UT at all. Aggies could not care less about about what goes on in Knoxville...unless the SEC becomes a reality.


65 posted on 06/14/2010 11:56:33 AM PDT by me1og
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To: Will88

Texas knows that the PAC 10 offer must include A&M. And A&M may go to the SEC. Texas wants no part of the SEC nor do they want the AGGIES in the SEC. Makes too many SEC schools doin’ too much recruitin’ in Texas.


66 posted on 06/14/2010 11:56:33 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: Gulf War One
Nope, I haven't; I just don't see the rivaly that exist currently being replaced by a rivalry against LSU or Arky.

Both of my cousins went to A&M (I don't know their position on this issue), so I have been to a few games at A&M when I was growing up. Most of them versus Texas (got to go to the 100th anniversary game).

67 posted on 06/14/2010 11:58:35 AM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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To: Gulf War One

“We won in 2006 & 2007, lost in 2008 & 2009 (barely) and will probably win this year.”

As I recall, Texas beat the Aggies 40 to 29 in 2009. Only an Aggie could call a 40-29 loss barely losing.

And the all time record is Texas 72 Wins and A&M 34 wins.

Tough to catch up on that record.


68 posted on 06/14/2010 12:00:06 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

18-17 since 1975. Hook ‘em hippies!


69 posted on 06/14/2010 12:01:48 PM PDT by me1og
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To: Terry Mross
Makes too many SEC schools doin’ too much recruitin’ in Texas.

Yep, if A&M came to the SEC, it would bring more SEC events to the attention of more Texas high school athletes and coaches, especially the eastern half of Texas.

70 posted on 06/14/2010 12:01:59 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88

That call was definitely entertainment. I was cracking up in the car.


71 posted on 06/14/2010 12:03:21 PM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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To: trumandogz

And the Longhorns will continue to earn more money than any other NCAA program.

Yep. But they’ll do that in any Conference they go to. (At least for a while)


72 posted on 06/14/2010 12:04:24 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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There is also talk of moving the Red River Shootout to December and making it a defacto championship game.


73 posted on 06/14/2010 12:04:38 PM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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To: Sic Parvis Magna
There is also talk of moving the Red River Shootout to December

Didn't you get the memo? It's now the "Red River Rivalry". Can't have any implication of violence in football don'cha know?

74 posted on 06/14/2010 12:06:47 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sic Parvis Magna

The Red River Shoot Out has lost it’s sparkle. The biggie from now on out will be Aggies-Hogs. Jones will do every thing he can to make it THE college game of the year. Especially since the Horns turned him down.


75 posted on 06/14/2010 12:07:25 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: Sic Parvis Magna

and if SMU is brought in the presence in Dallas for the B12 becomes bigger....I don’t blame CU for joining the P10- they could not compete in the B12 and were in the redheaded stepchild division of BCS conferences...


76 posted on 06/14/2010 12:08:00 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: Will88

please post updates...at work and cannot download streamplayers- thanks...


77 posted on 06/14/2010 12:09:14 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: dfwgator
Didn't you get the memo? It's now the "Red River Rivalry". Can't have any implication of violence in football don'cha know?

I got the memo and used it as tp.

I also still refer to the Washington Wizards and the Bullets. ;)

78 posted on 06/14/2010 12:12:52 PM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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To: God luvs America

The Big12 presence in Dallas can’t get much bigger. And CU couldn’t compete? They were the division North champs on several occassions and won a Big12 title.


79 posted on 06/14/2010 12:14:43 PM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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To: God luvs America

Finebaum was talking to a Geoff Ketchum from 104.9 FM in Austin, then the phone connection became really bad. Ketchum said the meeting was still in progress and seemed to think the conference would stay together, repeated some of what is in that Orangebloods article by Chip Brown.

Plans to talk to the guy some more with a better phone connection later.


80 posted on 06/14/2010 12:16:17 PM PDT by Will88
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To: me1og

I always thought the lyrics were.....

Texas Bite
Texas Bite
Texas jump up and bite my a@@

Texas Bite
Texas Bite
Texas jump up and bite my a@@

Texas Bite
Texas Bite
Texas jump up and bite my a@@

T-E-X-A-S
jump up and bite my a@@


81 posted on 06/14/2010 12:16:34 PM PDT by erman (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy.D D)
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To: Terry Mross

Lol. Maybe when A&M and Arky are both ranked in the top 10 and have BCS title hopes riding on that game, then maybe it will be a biggie. And Jerry will put anybody in Jerryworld to get revenue.


82 posted on 06/14/2010 12:16:58 PM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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To: erman

I know what you mean. That’s all I ever sang when their frilly howdy-doody band with their cute little cow-girl hats struck up that goofy tune.


83 posted on 06/14/2010 12:20:13 PM PDT by me1og
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To: Sic Parvis Magna

That’s my point. Jerry will make money. And considering the largest Razorback club in the world is in Dallas and Aggies will drive forever to a game, it will be sold out and on T.V. no matter what.


84 posted on 06/14/2010 12:21:35 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: God luvs America

The Ketchum guy was back on Finebaum and seems to think it is a done deal. He also owns(?) the Orangebloods.com site and works at an ESPN radio station in Austin. He said a Big 12 North school AD had told him their school had been saved.

Texas still the big dog and would have the most revenue, especially with rights to launch its own network, as all schools could, but Texas would expect to make the most money from that.

And, Gene Stallings indicated today that the league might have been saved. Seems to be a done deal unless if falls through at the last minute, or unless this is some of the most inaccurate reporting ever.


85 posted on 06/14/2010 12:30:42 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Sic Parvis Magna

True in today’s world — I agree it is a stretch. But for old timers there is something of a history.


86 posted on 06/14/2010 12:36:08 PM PDT by texanyankee
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To: Will88; All
The Texas network is a big deal; without it, I think Texas would leave, because the Pac10 was working on a big tv deal with Fox.

You might want to follow Chip Brown on Twitter; he's gives pretty up to date info on what's going on.
http://twitter.com/ChipBrownOB

87 posted on 06/14/2010 12:36:56 PM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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To: Will88

ESPN is now picking this up after staying with the PAC 10 story until a few minutes ago:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5285680

Still nothing official, though.


88 posted on 06/14/2010 12:45:32 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

Boise State - Ah afraid not for Big 12.... TCU a more natural fit unless Arkansas were to bolt the SEC as some in Arkansas would like to see. I suspect you might be right with BYU but travel might be an issue for them....Houston - not probably!


89 posted on 06/14/2010 1:04:23 PM PDT by Froggie
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To: Sic Parvis Magna

CU won a B12 title?? must’ve missed that one....I know they won the B12 north with Barnett a few times and like most B12 North teams (except K-State at the start and NU last December) got a ceremonial butt kicking from the B12 South winner....

last time CU was truly competitive on a national level was as a member of the Big 8 when they beat Notre Dame for a share of the title in ‘91 Orange Bowl with Bill McCartney as the coach- I was at the game...


90 posted on 06/14/2010 1:25:17 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: Will88

hope it stays together...thanks for the updates...


91 posted on 06/14/2010 1:26:15 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: God luvs America

Big XII Title games (Colorado’s been to 4, beating Texas in 2001):

12/7/1996 Texas 37, Nebraska 27
12/6/1997 Nebraska 54, Texas A&M 15
12/5/1998 Texas A&M 36, Kansas St. 33
12/4/1999 Nebraska 22, Texas 6
12/2/2000 Oklahoma 27, Kansas St. 24
12/1/2001 Colorado 39, Texas 37
12/7/2002 Oklahoma 29, Colorado 7
12/6/2003 Kansas St. 35, Oklahoma 7
12/4/2004 Oklahoma 42, Colorado 3
12/3/2005 Texas 70, Colorado 3
12/2/2006 Oklahoma 21, Nebraska 7
12/1/2007 Oklahoma 38, Missouri 17
12/6/2008 Oklahoma 62, Missouri 21
12/5/2009 Texas 13, Nebraska 12

You’d think Texas would want to get away from Oklahoma.


92 posted on 06/14/2010 1:29:35 PM PDT by RabidBartender (The hardest part about tending bar is figuring out who's drunk and who's just stupid.)
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To: Froggie

I like the TCU call. Definitely right in the heart of Big 12 turf.


93 posted on 06/14/2010 1:50:12 PM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Enjoy nature - eat meat, wear fur and drive your car!)
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To: God luvs America
CU won a B12 title?? must’ve missed that one....

It was during the Chris Sims Suck era. Applewhite came in almost one that game.

94 posted on 06/14/2010 2:00:20 PM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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With regard to the tv deal, supposedly Texas, OU, and A&M will each get 20m (not including the revenue Texas could make from its own network), and the other schools will get 14-17m.


95 posted on 06/14/2010 2:02:48 PM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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To: RetroSexual

If three more teams defect, they’ve already copyrighted “The Magnificent Seven.”


96 posted on 06/14/2010 2:12:51 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Sic Parvis Magna

what has A&M done to deserve that amount of $$$???

then again I guess OSU and Mizzu have no recourse as they are screwed if the others defect....


97 posted on 06/14/2010 3:25:15 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: God luvs America
what has A&M done to deserve that amount of $$$???

Threaten to go to the SEC?

I am disappointed. I think the Pac16 would have been a great product: awesome tv deal from Fox (more money than espn is going to give), good football, good baseball, good basketball, and AWESOME cheerleaders (assuming A&M went to the SEC of course). The current product is much diminished, imho.

98 posted on 06/14/2010 4:28:46 PM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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To: Sic Parvis Magna; All

Texas declines PAC Ten....good for them....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2534623/posts?page=3


99 posted on 06/14/2010 6:50:54 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: God luvs America

Um.....Nebraska losing to Texas, 13-12, on a last second FG after the refs put one second back on the clock does not amount to a “butt kicking” by Texas. Texas was damn lucky to win that BigXII championship game last Dec.

Oh, well, maybe you were watching a different game.


100 posted on 06/14/2010 7:07:35 PM PDT by WesG (Without geometry, life is pointless.....)
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