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Vic Rawl files formal protest over Alvin Greene's Democratic primary win in South Carolina
New York Daily News ^ | 6/14/2010 | Michael Sheridan

Posted on 06/14/2010 11:27:02 AM PDT by wastedpotential

He lost to a total unknown, and now the former South Carolina lawmaker is calling foul.

Vic Rawl, a former state Representative, filed a formal protest on Monday contesting the shocking primary "win" of Alvin Greene.

"We have filed this protest not for my personal or political gain, but on behalf of the people of South Carolina," the Democratic hopeful said in a statement on his official Web site.

"There is a cloud over South Carolina, that affects all of our people, Democrats and Republicans, white and African-American alike," he said. "At this point, the people of our state do not have the basic confidence that their vote will be counted."

Greene, an unemployed Army veteran who reportedly lives with his dad, surprised everyone by winning the Democratic primary for the U.S. Senate last week. That victory was quickly criticized, since the 32-year-old never campaigned and raised little to no funds.

Rawl, on the contrary, spent millions on his campaign and seemed to be the odds-on favorite.

"The strange circumstances surrounding Tuesday's vote require a thorough investigation," the Circuit Court Judge said. "For better or worse, this protest process is the only platform currently available for that investigation."

Rawl cites election irregularities as a possible culprit. Greene won Tuesday with nearly 59 percent of the vote to his 41 percent, but the former candidate suggests voting may have been corrupted.

"Many voters and poll workers... continue to contact us with their stories of extremely unusual incidents while trying to vote and administer this election," Rawl said. "These range from voters who repeatedly pressed the screen for me only to have the other candidate's name appear, to poll workers who had to change program cards multiple times."

Some Democratic pundits and politicians have suggested Greene could be a "plant," funded by a person or group, in an effort to aide the Republicans.

"Some Republican operative saw this as a chance to mess with the Democratic nominating process," Dick Harpootlian, former South Carolina democratic party chairman, recently told Keith Olberman on MSNBC.

Greene has denied he is a plant, but has not explained where he obtained the $10,400 needed to file as a candidate.

"It raises the question, did somebody assist him in filing?" Harpootlian told the Washington Post.

Others have actually questioned Greene's "mental" capacity.

"About two questions into a conversation with [Greene], it would become apparent that he is not probably fit to answer the questions befitting a Senate candidate," State Rep. Todd Rutherford, a Democrat, told Fox News.

On top of the conspiracy theories floating around Greene, there is also his pending criminal case regarding pornography.

Court records show Greene was arrested in November and charged with showing obscene Internet photos to a University of South Carolina co-ed, a felony. He has yet to enter a plea or be indicted.

The GOP has denied any involvement with Greene or his primary win.

"For the people of South Carolina, getting to the bottom of Tuesday’s results will build confidence, either way," Rawl said.


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So, this guy either was helped by Republicans or is mentally incompetent. Could you imagine what would happen if Republicans made a similar charge about an unknown African American candidate that won a primary?
1 posted on 06/14/2010 11:27:02 AM PDT by wastedpotential
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To: wastedpotential

So? A totally unqualified Democrat became president.


2 posted on 06/14/2010 11:29:13 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Anyone can fib. It takes an intellectual to tell a really big lie.)
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To: wastedpotential

Vic Rawl hates black people! (or something like that)


3 posted on 06/14/2010 11:29:36 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I don't have a 'Cousin Pookie'.)
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To: wastedpotential
Others have actually questioned Greene's "mental" capacity.

Well, the guy is a Democrat after all, so at least that charge carries the ring of truth...

4 posted on 06/14/2010 11:29:53 AM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: wastedpotential
Is Vic Rawl WHITE???

Sooooo, he thinks he OWNS this seat??? OMG!!

5 posted on 06/14/2010 11:30:19 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion...the Human Scarifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: wastedpotential

Ah, looks like someone is a sore loser...


6 posted on 06/14/2010 11:32:02 AM PDT by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: wastedpotential
"We have filed this protest not for my personal or political gain, but on behalf of the people of South Carolina,"

Isn't that almost the same words the , I want to be senator forever, ARLEN SPECTER said, when he switched to a demorat from a liberal rino.

7 posted on 06/14/2010 11:32:22 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: wastedpotential

Just out of curiousity, if someone (ostensibly not a Democrat) assisted him in filing, would that be illegal?

And what of the people who turned out to vote and supported this guy? Other than outright voter fraud, do we overturn an election because the people chose “the wrong person”?


8 posted on 06/14/2010 11:34:04 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (If you believe in manmade global warming, you lack the gift of reason.)
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To: wastedpotential

Apparently, we have another sighting of Soreloserman in SC.


9 posted on 06/14/2010 11:34:07 AM PDT by rod1
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To: wastedpotential
So, Mr. Rawl...how does it feel getting bounced by the same affirmative action tactics you and your ilk foisted upon the rest of us?

Qualified, Smalified...it's only color that counts...right?
10 posted on 06/14/2010 11:34:48 AM PDT by FrankR (Standing against tyranny must start somewhere, or the future belongs to the tyrants.)
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To: wastedpotential

Rawl’s protest seems to consist of ‘I lost so there must be some foul play to blame.’


11 posted on 06/14/2010 11:34:49 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: wastedpotential

It appears the plantation owners have their dander up.


12 posted on 06/14/2010 11:34:50 AM PDT by Gritty (The Moron Vote feels intensely about issues once their demagogues tell them the issues-EM Tyrrell)
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To: wastedpotential

Hey ViKKK, the black dude beat you by a hundred thousand votes.

That’s a lot of chads to recount, buddy.

(this is going to be GOOD...)


13 posted on 06/14/2010 11:36:03 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
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To: wastedpotential

Yes! Victor Rawl is white. By all means, the GOP should stick up for truth and justice for all. A good ole boy thinks he should have won by virtue of being white. The people have spoken, and they’ve elected a black man to be their Democratic candidate. The GOP should take the high road on this one.

If Rawl is smart, which he obviously isn’t, he’ll shut his mouth and start collecting contributions for his next run in 18 short months.

Greene was able to get a college degree, get into the Army, and be assigned to Army Intelligence. He must have SOMETHING going for him.

This is entertainment at its best.


14 posted on 06/14/2010 11:36:05 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (God to Obama: Don't think I'm not keepin' track. Brother.)
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To: wastedpotential
He lost to a total unknown,

It's not that hard to do when you're also an unknown.

Outside of his personal friends, work aquantances and family, I doubt 300 people in SC ever heard of Vic Rawl.

The dopes looked at the ballot and saw Al Green vs. Lou Rawls, and Al Green is a way better singer and a reverend, so they voted for him.

15 posted on 06/14/2010 11:36:35 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: wastedpotential

IT'S ON!


16 posted on 06/14/2010 11:36:56 AM PDT by Hoodat (.For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: wastedpotential
Rawl, on the contrary, spent millions on his campaign and seemed to be the odds-on favorite.

I think this is sloppy, erroneous journalism. The figure I've seen repeatedly for Rawl's primary fundraising is $183,000.

17 posted on 06/14/2010 11:37:35 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: wastedpotential

18 posted on 06/14/2010 11:38:52 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. He's just some guy in the neighborhood.............)
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To: wastedpotential

I’d rather listen to Lou Rawls. Is he still alive?


19 posted on 06/14/2010 11:39:31 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (No matter where you go there are always more stupid people.)
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To: wastedpotential
Greene has denied he is a plant, but has not explained where he obtained the $10,400 needed to file as a candidate.

False. Greene has repeatedly stated that he saved money from his military pay for two years and then used this money for the filing fee.

20 posted on 06/14/2010 11:40:10 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

21 posted on 06/14/2010 11:41:18 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. He's just some guy in the neighborhood.............)
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To: Past Your Eyes

No,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


22 posted on 06/14/2010 11:41:51 AM PDT by Red Badger (No, Obama's not the Antichrist. He's just some guy in the neighborhood.............)
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To: wastedpotential
Let's see, you have a White Democrat running against a Black Democrat.

Any chance 'the people' voted for the Black Man? The Historic First Black man from S.C. to...

Obamah isn't any brighter than Alvin Greene and 'the people' voted for the Black Man.

23 posted on 06/14/2010 11:42:20 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: wastedpotential

“Dick Harpootlian, former South Carolina democratic party chairman, recently told Keith Olberman on MSNBC.”

“Harpootlian?”


24 posted on 06/14/2010 11:45:44 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: rogue yam

“Sloppy, erroneous” and “journalism” - aren’t those synonyms anymore?


25 posted on 06/14/2010 11:45:46 AM PDT by wastedpotential (McCain always said I was an agent of intolerance - but in 2008 those like me tolerated him most)
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To: ChocChipCookie

I do not think they are`protesting because Greene is a balck man they are protesting because he was not their black man.


26 posted on 06/14/2010 11:45:51 AM PDT by Americanexpat
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To: wastedpotential
Pretty sure i'm not supposed to laugh at this but ...


27 posted on 06/14/2010 11:46:03 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: wastedpotential

more popcorn.


28 posted on 06/14/2010 11:46:54 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: wastedpotential

This might be a good thing. If the courts rule that Greene is mentally incompetent it would open the door for Republicans to charge that Obama is also mentally incompetent.


29 posted on 06/14/2010 11:47:25 AM PDT by Enterprise (So tell me libs, if there had been blow out at ANWR, could it ever have matched BP's?)
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To: Enterprise

If mental competency is a requirement for elected office, I’d say there is going to be a bunch of vacancies.


30 posted on 06/14/2010 11:51:21 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

There are so MANY who should be removed for mental incompetency. For instance, how mentally competent can a person be who votes for a massive bill without knowing what’s in it?


31 posted on 06/14/2010 11:52:54 AM PDT by Enterprise (So tell me libs, if there had been blow out at ANWR, could it ever have matched BP's?)
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To: wastedpotential

Yo, why dey pickin’ on a brotha? That racis’.


32 posted on 06/14/2010 11:53:08 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: wastedpotential

Well, Georgia has a Congressman who thinks Guam will flip over if too Marines are stationed there, so mental health obviously isn’t a big Democrat priority.


33 posted on 06/14/2010 11:57:52 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: dead

“He lost to a total unknown”

They should get used to it......there is plenty more where that came from. :)


34 posted on 06/14/2010 12:00:13 PM PDT by Chronically aghast in Florida (November can NOT get here fast enough!)
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To: wastedpotential

35 posted on 06/14/2010 12:01:52 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Yep. If you create conspiracy theories around a black man's legitimately winning an elected office, and you are white, then you must be a racist. Isn't that what Janeane Garafalo said? "They don't know their history at all. This is about hating a black man in the "Congress." This is racism straight up."
36 posted on 06/14/2010 12:26:15 PM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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To: erkyl

$10,400 for the opportunity to run for public office.

Isn’t that like a Poll Tax of sorts?

I can’t imagine why any entry fee should be more than $25. Someone ‘splain it to me, please.


37 posted on 06/14/2010 1:02:19 PM PDT by Noamie
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To: Red Badger

I’d vote for the guy on the left. The guy on the right looks like a criminal, or at least extremely untrustworthy.

Actually, he reminds me of the incompetent public defender from the movie My Cousin Vinnie.


38 posted on 06/14/2010 1:05:53 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Deb

West Virginia has a Senator who seems barely alive, and has to be wheeled into the chambers whenever they really need a vote.


39 posted on 06/14/2010 1:07:00 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

If Bobby Byrd can say “Cicero”, he can vote.


40 posted on 06/14/2010 1:08:22 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: rod1

it IS the sore/loserman party after all.....they are what they are.


41 posted on 06/14/2010 1:09:23 PM PDT by tioga (Remember in November.)
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To: Noamie

I don’t know about SC specifically, but I believe that most States allow for a ‘fee in lieu of petition’. You can submit petitions to file for free (showing that you have a minimum base of support), or you can pay the fee. In either case, you have, to quote our illustrious pResident, “Skin in the game.” That puts up a minimum bar to keep from having 1,000 names on the primary ballot.

If you are running for U.S. Senate, and you can’t afford $10,400, then you aren’t series about running for Senate.

I paid $3,125 to run for Congress in TX (lost the primary). I could have provided a petition of 500 Republican primary voters instead. Sounds easy. Except. If you have 10 seconds to spend with a potential voter, you don’t want to waste that time talking about the legalize of signing a petition.

Besides, nobody goes through your cash to see which dollars they can get disqualified.

Really. I spent tens of thousands of dollars (much of it my own money) and a year of my life running for Congress. $3,125 is NOT why I didn’t win and wasn’t a serious bar to entry considering all the other costs - money, time, and otherwise - to run.


42 posted on 06/14/2010 1:26:37 PM PDT by ziravan ("Are you better off now than you were 4 trillion dollars ago?")
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To: wastedpotential
It is highly unlikely that the GOP possesses the skills necessary to mastermind this kind of election victory. I think the good people of South Carolina know a good joke when they see it. South Carolina...the Minnesota of the South...
43 posted on 06/14/2010 2:27:18 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: ziravan
you aren’t series

Heh, heh, heh...

44 posted on 06/14/2010 2:28:01 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: ziravan

I wonder who is funding the challenge to Greene’s win by Rawls?


45 posted on 06/14/2010 3:10:08 PM PDT by DanGalt
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To: April Lexington

That loser Rawls in SC and the rat party can whine all they like.

Greene followed their rules and fronted the 10k entry fee thereby proving that he WAS series about running.

Everything else is popcorn fodder.

The REAL deal is that he supposedly didn’t file with the FEC. That’s HUGH! I ended up 27k in debt (to myself) and had an offer this weekend for a contribution to help. I declined. At this point, I’d rather stay 27k in debt than have to amend my now closed FEC committee paperwork.


46 posted on 06/14/2010 3:47:16 PM PDT by ziravan ("Are you better off now than you were 4 trillion dollars ago?")
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To: ziravan
He doesn't have to file anything with the FCC if he doesn't have any campaign donations, etc. Someone already wrote on this and he has broken no laws or protocols.
47 posted on 06/14/2010 3:50:12 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Captain Peter Blood

That’s not correct. He had to file. The rules state if you raise OR spend more than 5k, you must file. 10.4k filing fee by itself breaches the requirement to file.

http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/candidate_registration_brochure.pdf


48 posted on 06/14/2010 7:13:46 PM PDT by ziravan ("Are you better off now than you were 4 trillion dollars ago?")
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To: ziravan

I’m feeling like I need to be rooting for Greene. I love it when someone sticks a finger in the establishment!


49 posted on 06/14/2010 8:00:39 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: wastedpotential

Vic Rawl lost overwhelmingly, yet cannot respect the will of the voters. It’s no wonder that no one voted for him. He and Olberman are nothing more than rascist bigots.


50 posted on 06/14/2010 8:07:42 PM PDT by purplelobster
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