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A Snakebit President
Wall Street Journal ^ | June 17, 2010 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 06/17/2010 7:14:44 PM PDT by Wpin

The president is starting to look snakebit. He's starting to look unlucky, like Jimmy Carter. It wasn't Mr. Carter's fault that the American diplomats were taken hostage in Tehran, but he handled it badly, and suffered. He defied the rule of the King in "Pippin," the Broadway show of Carter's era, who spoke of "the rule that every general knows by heart, that it's smarter to be lucky than it's lucky to be smart." Mr. Carter's opposite was Bill Clinton, on whom fortune smiled with eight years of relative peace and a worldwide economic boom. What misfortune Mr. Clinton experienced he mostly created himself. History didn't impose it.

But Mr. Obama is starting to look unlucky, and–file this under Mysteries of Leadership–that is dangerous for him because Americans get nervous when they have a snakebit president. They want presidents on whom the sun shines.

It isn't Mr. Obama's fault that an oil rig blew in the Gulf and a gusher resulted. He already had two wars and the great recession. But the lack of adequate federal government response appropriately redounds on him. In a Wall Street Journal investigation published Thursday, reporters Jeffrey Ball and Jonathan Weisman wrote the federal government at first moved quickly, but soon "faltered." "The federal government, which under the law is in charge of fighting large spills, had to make things up as it went along." It hadn't anticipated a spill this big. The first weekend in May, when water was rough, contractors hired by BP to lay boom "mostly stayed ashore," according to a local official. "Shrimpers took matters into their own hands, laying 18,000 feet of boom," compared to about 4,000 feet by BP's contractors.

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KEYWORDS: 0bamaisafraud; booms; bp; obama; oilspill; presidency
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Another good editorial by Peggy Noonan with some historical perspective to relate to todays situation with President Obama...good read.
1 posted on 06/17/2010 7:14:45 PM PDT by Wpin
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To: Wpin

I don’t like her anymore.

I would say one doesn’t need luck when you usurp all power of 3 branches of government and you have harvested billions from companies and you have Soros’ pocketbook.


2 posted on 06/17/2010 7:16:34 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: Wpin
She's still far too smitten with Obuttocks.


3 posted on 06/17/2010 7:17:42 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Wpin

Peggy now jumping ship after her idol Obama has hit the ice berg?


4 posted on 06/17/2010 7:17:42 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Wpin
Gulf; Obama; oil spill; BP; politics; satire
5 posted on 06/17/2010 7:18:23 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Wpin

Reminds me of Joe Btfsplk from Li’l Abner - the dark cloud over his head.
Let’s hope it keeps getting bigger. I’d like to see a total meltdown on national TV.


6 posted on 06/17/2010 7:18:48 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Wpin
Snakebit............ bit by........ a snake

A snake with a yellow background.


7 posted on 06/17/2010 7:19:25 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Net Neutrality - I say a lot of un-neutral things. How about you?)
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To: Wpin

I’m not buying her ‘he’s just unlucky’ crap either. He’s botched this from the start.

Personally, I think Obama is Pharoah and his plagues are coming. Curse Israel and you are cursed. Unfortunately for us, he’s in this country.


8 posted on 06/17/2010 7:20:01 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: Flag_This
For the longest time the media have made it seem as if obama could walk on water.

But apparently obama cannot walk on oil.

9 posted on 06/17/2010 7:20:15 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Net Neutrality - I say a lot of un-neutral things. How about you?)
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To: y'all
He's starting to look unlucky...

"Luck is the residue of hard work."

I don't know who said it, it is correct.

Of course 0bama looks unlucky.

10 posted on 06/17/2010 7:21:14 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja (Rebuke, Renounce, Repeal, Repeat,...)
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To: Wpin

Do we know whether “BP’s Contractors” are union? I’d bet they are!

This is such bullpatooie!


11 posted on 06/17/2010 7:21:26 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Eschew Socialism!)
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To: Wpin

Peggy Noonan and anyone who likes her can go fornicate themselves with an iron stick.


12 posted on 06/17/2010 7:21:38 PM PDT by Grunthor (Getting married, T minus 10 days.)
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To: Wpin

Peggy Noonan doesn’t get web page hits from me. She’s on my boycott list.


13 posted on 06/17/2010 7:22:50 PM PDT by listenhillary (You might be a modern LIBERAL if you read 1984 & said "YEAH! That's the world that I want!")
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To: Grunthor

I agree. Fool me once Peggy.

Near the end of the article, she segues to Hillary Clinton. Good grief!

I’m glad I read the whole thing, but look at it like this, I did it so you don’t have to. Because she hasn’t changed one bit.


14 posted on 06/17/2010 7:24:34 PM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: Wpin
It wasn't Mr. Carter's fault that the American diplomats were taken hostage in Tehran,

Hah!!

President Carter refused to help the Shah against the Kohemeni radical fundamentalists who were sponsored by communist U.S.S.R. in what became the Iran Revolution. The whole Iran problem and ALL its sequelae are a result of Carter's inaction.

There were ramifications to what Mr. Carter didn't do, and there are ramifications just as serious to what President Obama isn't doing today.

Spare me the Carter apologia, Ms. Noonan.

15 posted on 06/17/2010 7:25:11 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1993905/posts)
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To: Wpin

And then there were giants like Reagan. Snakes (from Washington to Moscow) were trying to bite him all the time. And he handled it.


16 posted on 06/17/2010 7:27:05 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Wpin

It wasn’t Mr. Carter’s fault that the American diplomats were taken hostage in Tehran

its only the first line of the article but that’s enough for me.

it was Carter’s fault. he sent clear signals that the US was not going to support the Shah any more. and he did not. he let Iran go to the fanatics without a fight. and they responded with the successful revolution and then taking the embassy....and murdering some of our people.

it was Carter’s fault....that is history...and Noonan is an idiot.


17 posted on 06/17/2010 7:28:53 PM PDT by kralcmot (my tagline died with Terri)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Well done!!!


18 posted on 06/17/2010 7:29:10 PM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Peggy now jumping ship after her idol Obama has hit the ice berg?

Yes, you beat me to it. I thought she was one of those dingbats who supported the buffoon. I guess she needs to be part of the social circuit in the Beltway or wherever she lives. So now it looks like us unsophisticates were right about Obama all along. I wonder if this wacky broad is ever going to do a mea culpa? She's simply isn't that smart.

Go away Peggy! You've been proven to be a dunce.
19 posted on 06/17/2010 7:29:10 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: Wpin

Can a snake be snake bit? Plausable I guess.


20 posted on 06/17/2010 7:30:10 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: Wpin
Snakebit.

Not incompetent.

Not malevolent.

Snakebit!

It's more than a question of blind luck, Peggy.

21 posted on 06/17/2010 7:30:22 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Wpin
Cmon Noonan, give up the unlucky bit, he's made his own bed and lies when the truth would probably benefit him.

"Love him or not he's what we've got, and he's what we have for the next two years.

Hopefully not, he doesn't pay much attention to the law and if a few Dems get fed up he may just be impeached.

22 posted on 06/17/2010 7:31:03 PM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: ModelBreaker

Good point - some Presidents aren’t “lucky” they’re competent. Reagan had more snakes than Raiders of the Lost Ark - he fought them... successfully.


23 posted on 06/17/2010 7:31:09 PM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?area=dam&lang=eng)
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To: Wpin
In the real world, Peggy, We make our own luck. Three Character traits stand out for this president which will always cause him problems:

He is inept. Since he has never done anything, he cannot do anything well.

He is lazy - He considers himself a visionary, but is to lazy to take on the real difficult job a managing a great nation.

He is immature to nearly an adolescent level. He sees the world in the same melodramatic egocentric manner as a 16 years old. He truly believes the world revolves around him.

These sort of character defects generally result in bad luck.

24 posted on 06/17/2010 7:32:15 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: Wpin

58 days after 9/11, how were Bush’s poll numbers? Through the roof, no? Where’s 0bama, 58 days after his 9/11-WW2-Black Plague?


25 posted on 06/17/2010 7:33:18 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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To: Wpin
Brilliant people make their own good fortune.

Morons make their own bad fortune,

26 posted on 06/17/2010 7:33:48 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: Wpin

Now that liberals are starting to question Dear Leader Noonan feels she can criticize him (just a little) and still get invited to the good parties.


27 posted on 06/17/2010 7:35:57 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: patriciaruth

Yup...cater’s fault totally...

Ignoring the revolution isnt what drove them to sieze the embassy...proping him up would have only delayed it..

Giving the shah sanctuary is what drove them to seize it...his advisors where screaming NO!..Dont do IT!

He blew them off..they took our peeps hostage...

Cause...effect.


28 posted on 06/17/2010 7:39:28 PM PDT by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompitence..)
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To: Wpin
Hillary Clinton has luster?? After announcing on Ecuadoran TV that Zeroman intends to sue Arizona? That's luster??

Peggy has "issues". I barely ever read her anymore, decided to give her another chance with this article. I'll be going back to ignoring her again.


The luster of Hillary as of today.

29 posted on 06/17/2010 7:39:40 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (We don't have a leader in the Oval Office, we have a reader in the Oval Office.)
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To: Wpin

Ohhkay, I understand now: Carter and Obama aren’t loosers,
they’re just .. unlucky. Thanks for that insight Peggy. Fail.


30 posted on 06/17/2010 7:39:58 PM PDT by tumblindice ("We are guardians of the taxpayers money." Rep. Chris Carney, D-Pa)
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To: Wpin

If you stand back and observe what has happened just in the past few days,the President’s broken promise to Arizona regarding National guard troops to help them with the border, and Hil’s news that the Fed is planning to sue Arizona for it’s illegal immigration bill just voted in, and is a near copy of Federal law; not to mention his photo op speech regarding the oil spill in the gulf, or his bully pitting through his Socialist heath
care bill against the will of the American people, one could surmise that the American people are being deliberately goaded to start some kind of aggressive action. A very sneaky method in which the Fed would invoke Martial Law in the land. Be careful! Let us keep our heads. Somehow we will take back our country in a sane and legal way through the ballot box. Unless some emergency erupts “unexpectedly” at just the right moment. Then, boys, wait until you see the whites of their eyes!


31 posted on 06/17/2010 7:40:42 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( On the cutting edge)
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To: Pan_Yan

Yep.


32 posted on 06/17/2010 7:41:04 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (We don't have a leader in the Oval Office, we have a reader in the Oval Office.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Next up K. Parker. The kneepad queen.


33 posted on 06/17/2010 7:43:06 PM PDT by Clyde5445 (Gov. Sarah Palin: :"You have to sacrifice to win. That's my philosophy in 6 words.")
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To: truthguy; All
She's simply isn't that smart.

No, she's not, and she apparently thinks that we all have very short memories...

Obama and the Runaway Train

Surprise: Peggy Noonan not sure who she’s voting for

He Was Supposed to Be Competent

34 posted on 06/17/2010 7:44:37 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Wpin

Noonan is still smitten by the media lie that Obama is smart. The guy is dumber than a box of rocks. No one who is smart could make as many bad decisions as he does.


35 posted on 06/17/2010 7:46:26 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Wpin; FARS; nuconvert
He's starting to look unlucky, like Jimmy Carter. It wasn't Mr. Carter's fault that the American diplomats were taken hostage in Tehran

Unlucky? Give me a freakin' break, the press are lying again. still.

Carter stabbed the Shah in the back,leading to the Shah's downfall, the success of the initial Revolution and the hostage-taking.

Calling Carter "unlucky" for the hostage-taking is like calling a DUI driver "unlucky" for the others she killed.

36 posted on 06/17/2010 7:47:42 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: Wpin

Clearly the Belle of East Rutherford NJ is not a baseball fan. Else she would know the wisdom of Branch Rickey.”Luck, good or bad, is the residue of design. Or as Sophocles might intone,”Character is Fate.” And with credit to the Bard of Avon and Ed Murrow.”Cassius was right. ‘The fault dear Brutus lies not in our stars, but in ourselves.’”


37 posted on 06/17/2010 7:49:45 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: patriciaruth
The whole Iran problem and ALL its sequelae are a result of Carter's inaction.

Why did it take till the 15th post for someone to point out that the second line of Noonan's article was erroneous? Thank you for doing so.

38 posted on 06/17/2010 7:54:43 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Wpin

Peggy, you get snakebit when you play with snakes.


39 posted on 06/17/2010 7:58:29 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Wpin

Can you imagine what Obama had done with a REAL crisis? George W Bush and Reagan showed us how it’s supposed to be handled.


40 posted on 06/17/2010 8:00:09 PM PDT by gitmo ( The democRats drew first blood. It's our turn now.)
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To: patriciaruth
Spare me the Carter apologia, Ms. Noonan.

Exactly! Like Carter had nothing to do with what happened in Iran? Is Peggy that stupid? Or that dishonest? I didn't need to read any more of her tripe after coming across that steaming pile in her opener.
41 posted on 06/17/2010 8:04:04 PM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: Flag_This

Good one!


42 posted on 06/17/2010 8:04:09 PM PDT by Palladin (Commodore Obama: "Damn the Constitution. Full speed ahead!")
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To: Wpin
The president is starting to look snakebit.

Poor snake.

43 posted on 06/17/2010 8:05:18 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (there are huge chunks of time...at night...where I'm just asleep...for hours...it's ridiculous....)
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To: Palladin

Thanks!


44 posted on 06/17/2010 8:05:51 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Wpin

So sad to watch this woman deteriorate from Reagan’s top speechwriter to a suck-up for Democrats and RINOs.


45 posted on 06/17/2010 8:09:17 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: Wpin

So she’s give up on cheerleading Obama blindly, and will now move it to Clinton.....

I’m not impressed.


46 posted on 06/17/2010 8:09:49 PM PDT by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: patriciaruth
IMO.... Mr Carter was actively envolved. His religious side sided with the Iranian fundamentalists and the MSM. All three demonized the Shah and he was run out of Iran. Russia was at most passively envolved.

Obama is actively envolved as he prevented US assistance to BP and the states to immediately contain the mess. He tied their hands to magnify the catastrophy.

He was 'out to lunch'!

47 posted on 06/17/2010 8:10:24 PM PDT by duckln
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To: Wpin

Why is the question “Is it Obama’s fault?” even the question? We all make mistakes. Bush made mistakes. Reagan made mistakes. Eisenhower made mistakes.

The question should always be “What is Obama doing about it?”

This seems pretty basic to me.


48 posted on 06/17/2010 8:11:02 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi
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To: patriciaruth; kralcmot

It’s great that there are some who still acurately remember history. You are spot on. Carter refused to support the Shah because of his human rights violations, which in fact were legitimate in some regards, but his stubborn actions clearly and deliberately lent tacit US support to the radical unrest. And then we had the hostage crisis, organically enhanced by Carter and Cyrus Vance.

Accident of history my foot. Demonstrates why Peggy Noonan is dead to me.


49 posted on 06/17/2010 8:21:50 PM PDT by Obadiah (I can see November from my house!)
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To: ReneeLynn

I think Peggy’s point is not saying he is unlucky but that Americans are perceiving him as unlucky and that is the death bell for his presidency.


50 posted on 06/17/2010 8:23:53 PM PDT by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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