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Breaking: Joe Klein on CNN just said McChrystal has submitted his resignation!
CNN Blitzer interview | Tuesday, June 22, 2010 | DGHoodini

Posted on 06/22/2010 1:25:38 PM PDT by DGHoodini

Time author on CNN stated a WH source told him that McChrystal has submitted his resignation, but Obama has not yet accepted it.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; mcchristal; mcchrystal; obama; resignation
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To: DGHoodini

Anyone else thinking McChrystal 2012?


101 posted on 06/22/2010 2:01:24 PM PDT by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: Dem Guard

In the article by Michael Hastings, an aide describes McChrystal as “disappointed” by his first Oval Office meeting with President Barack Obama, whom he considered unprepared. It goes on to say that even though McChrystal voted for Obama, the two never clicked. And McChrystal is quoted as saying that he found it “painful” when the president reprimanded him last fall for speaking openly about his desire for more troops in Afghanistan.


102 posted on 06/22/2010 2:02:24 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Rick Perry - TX Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 !)
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To: Lmo56

“BTW: Servicemen should not publically disagree with policy - they are taught to respect the office [if not the man]. If feeling compelled to speak out - they should resign first. They are then free to speak their minds ...”

My son is in the Marines. When he volunteered to meet Michelle, his CO declined the offer, mumbling something about “we don’t need THAT kind of trouble...”


103 posted on 06/22/2010 2:02:34 PM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: Spok
Did McChrystal plan the whole thing?

All one really needs to know is whether or not he voted for Obama. If he did, it shows that McChrystal could not identify a mortal threat to our country that was staring him in the face.

If he did not vote for Obama, he deserves to be fired for allowing his aides to talk to god forsaken Rolling Stone magazine. In bars.

I'm sorry, but either way, McChrystal is a fool, his military credentials notwithstanding.

104 posted on 06/22/2010 2:02:39 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: OldDeckHand
McChrystal For President in 2012 Campaign?"

I don't think so. He has apparently told people that he voted for Obama.

If he were to decide to run, this shouldn't be too much of an issue ... remember, Reagan was a registered Democrat until he saw the light.

105 posted on 06/22/2010 2:03:09 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (We'll remember in November!)
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To: jacquej

I believe it. His last option...shine a light on these incompetents and walk out the door.


106 posted on 06/22/2010 2:03:31 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: mrmeyer

Been rooting for Gen Stan until I read that he voted for Obama??? If this is true than he really is not fit for office. Now I do not know that it is true, but if he voted for Barry to be the Commander In Chief, than I cant respect him???


107 posted on 06/22/2010 2:04:31 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge ( SARAH PALIN or BUST.)
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To: kcvl

I think the plan was not fire McChrystal but to publicly castrate him in DC and then send him back to the war as obama’s eunuch. We will see what happens now.


108 posted on 06/22/2010 2:05:32 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: DGHoodini

If Zero does not accept the resignation does that mean he has to kiss McCrystal’s ass?


109 posted on 06/22/2010 2:06:28 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Political correctness in America today is a Rip Van Winkle acid trip.)
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To: La Enchiladita

They may all be radical leftists (well, not McChrystal) but maybe they have realized that Obama’s agenda is different from theirs. I’m sure the reason that wierdo leftist Rahm is leaving is because he’s the son of an Israeli general and is getting a little bothered by Bambi’s pro-Muslim anti-Israel stance.

Rahm probably thought at one point that he could use Obama, but I think that he - and maybe others - have seen the light now and realize that Bambi, dumb as he is, has all the power and is going on his own course with our country.


110 posted on 06/22/2010 2:06:43 PM PDT by livius
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To: AmishDude
Obama may not accept. McChrystal may be free to opine if he is no longer in the chain of command.

He can say that he's gay - after all, DADT is still in effect, right?

111 posted on 06/22/2010 2:07:33 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: DGHoodini

Don’t expect any grand attack on Obama or the Rules of Engagement from General McChrystal just because he steps down or retires. Officers’ commissions last for the officers’ lifetimes. They are subject to recall until death and are subject to the UCMJ until death.

If General McChrystal gets too outspoken he will find himself in command of a radar station in Iceland or a weather station in Antarctica.


112 posted on 06/22/2010 2:08:53 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: mrmeyer

Wow.. There was a caller on Hannity’s radio show just a little while ago who predicted exactly this. He said McChrystal should resign, and make Ubama accept it. He said Ubama would prefer to keep McChrystal on because he’s a convenient whipping boy, a name to pin defeat on when the war goes totally south. If some new guy replaced McChrystal, the war would be all Ubama’s.


113 posted on 06/22/2010 2:09:47 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: La Enchiladita
Add, budget director resigning as of July and Rahm quitting after the midterm elections.

LE, the Whitehouse appears to be unraveling before our eyes.

Obama has "spillage" everywhere. This has been a very bad day for Obama, but perhaps a better day for America.

114 posted on 06/22/2010 2:10:26 PM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: DGHoodini

So does this mean the meeting is off ? If not then at the meeting Mcrystal should ask Obama for his resignation too...

LOL..


115 posted on 06/22/2010 2:10:32 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Our nation has a choice, Vote or Die.)
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To: DGHoodini

Why did this guy vote for him?

You have to wonder why any general would vote for the usurper.


116 posted on 06/22/2010 2:10:33 PM PDT by Frantzie (Democrats = Party of I*lam)
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To: SUSSA

Are you saying an officer can’t resign his commission?


117 posted on 06/22/2010 2:11:20 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

“If some new guy replaced McChrystal, the war would be all Ubama’s.”

btt


118 posted on 06/22/2010 2:11:31 PM PDT by maggief
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To: EQAndyBuzz

“Wesley Clarke?”

Ashley Wilkes.


119 posted on 06/22/2010 2:11:52 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Political correctness in America today is a Rip Van Winkle acid trip.)
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To: Fast Moving Angel
"If he were to decide to run, this shouldn't be too much of an issue ... remember, Reagan was a registered Democrat until he saw the light. "

Right, but he "saw the light" some 30 years before he was elected to the presidency as a Republican. Yes, Reagan didn't formally change his party registration until sometime before the run in 1968, but he only publicly endorsed Republican presidential candidates beginning with Eisenhower.

120 posted on 06/22/2010 2:12:33 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Friendofgeorge

yes I know I said than, I meant then, I am getting old.. LOL


121 posted on 06/22/2010 2:13:03 PM PDT by Friendofgeorge ( SARAH PALIN or BUST.)
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To: domeika

He is saving that defense force to deal with the Crackers...


122 posted on 06/22/2010 2:13:10 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Our nation has a choice, Vote or Die.)
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To: Rebelbase

No, He van send him back to Afghanistan so that all deaths caused by the WH’s murderous ROE, can be blamed on him instead of Obama and his ‘Rats in the WH and the State Dept, and their half assed ‘Medal of “Restraint”’(?).


123 posted on 06/22/2010 2:13:35 PM PDT by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: ken5050; kcvl; maggief

I’ve never held a high-level job, so I can’t be for sure, but it seems that folks like cabinet members, military chiefs and so forth are asked to put up a signed, undated resignation when they take the job.

That way the boss can use it anytime he wants. Does that make sense?


124 posted on 06/22/2010 2:14:00 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: for-q-clinton

Would resigning his commission make him lose his retirement? You get paid for what you have done, not what you can do.

Just curious.

I know that Generals cannot really retire and are subject to recall.


125 posted on 06/22/2010 2:14:31 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I lived in VT for four years. That was enough.)
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To: JohnBrowdie

First, a judge lifted the moratorium on offshore drilling, and now this. Obonehead is getting really wee-weed up.


126 posted on 06/22/2010 2:14:55 PM PDT by stbdside
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To: dragnet2

I know a bunch of field grade officers that are leaving before they would have. Just tired of it....wink, wink...


127 posted on 06/22/2010 2:15:18 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I lived in VT for four years. That was enough.)
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To: Typical_Whitey

Meeting still on.


128 posted on 06/22/2010 2:16:04 PM PDT by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: Lancey Howard

As I understand it he can resign his commission but cannot get away from it by retiring. If he resigns his commission he loses his retirement pay and benefits.


129 posted on 06/22/2010 2:16:21 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: DGHoodini

That will never, ever happen. Not in a million years.


130 posted on 06/22/2010 2:17:06 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I lived in VT for four years. That was enough.)
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To: DGHoodini

Is Joe Klein a trusted source?


131 posted on 06/22/2010 2:17:25 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Frantzie

Obama and the lying filth that run the “Mainstream” were able to fool a *lot* of people.

But they can’t fool all of the people all of the time.


132 posted on 06/22/2010 2:18:04 PM PDT by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: Spok
If we believe General Vallely, patriotic field grade officers are leaving in droves. McChristal was perceived by some as an Obama fellow traveler. Michael Yon believes McChristal was behind his loss of embedded status. McChrystal was also claimed the source of engagement rules requiring foot soldier to patrol without a loaded chamber. If true that is betrayal. So I doubt that it is. Officers must often take responsibility silently for the mistakes of others. But Obama's gang is not making mistakes. His intent is to stall until the change he seeks has been accomplished. There are few field grade officers, most of whom have an excellent knowledge of history who don't know that Obama is ineligible because of his alien status at birth. He had to have been born a natural born citizen, which meant being born in the country of two citizen parents. To presume that our framers, after a revolution, would pass control of our military to someone whose father was a Royalist is ridiculous. About that at least, Obama II was honest; he took his Dreams from his Father, the Muslim, Marxist, British Subject who sought Sharia law and Marxism for his predominently Christian country, Kenya.

About this puzzle palace we can only guess. It is possible that McChrystal read the statement by the Egyptian Foreign Minister in Reuters or Al Jazzera last week where the Minister assured his world that Obama had told him he is still a faithful Muslim, and asked the minister to wait a bit longer to see the proof. Whatever Obama has in mind, military officers and the judiciary are complicit. We already know that Eric Holder would hire Khalid Sheik Mohammad on the spot if he weren't tied up with some minor legal matter in New York. My guess is that McChrystal has seen enough of his soldiers die executing the political ambitions of a gaggle of committed Marxists, who will live like kings when they control the petroleum reserves of the world. If McChrystal thinks he can pacify the Muslim citizenry I recommend that he read Hirsi Ali or Wafa Sultan. (Sultan believes that only a Saudi King can reform Islam.) It is

133 posted on 06/22/2010 2:18:10 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: PhiKapMom
 
 
You and me both. Every time some public figure does something remotely commendable there's always a mad rush by the resident peanut gallery around here to post "(Fill in the Blank) for president 2012!" Junk like that lowers the collective IQ of the website. Maybe that's the intent, who knows.
 
 

134 posted on 06/22/2010 2:18:40 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: DGHoodini

Don’t think so, there is not going to be a 2012 election. I gaurentee it!


135 posted on 06/22/2010 2:18:40 PM PDT by crazydad
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To: kcvl
Refuse McChrystal’s resignation. The general is a man of honor, and no idiot. There’s a good chance he’ll show up in Washington with a resignation letter in hand. President Obama could refuse it, and then go to the public and say something like, “our efforts in Afghanistan are too important to let an unfortunate lapse of judgment like this undermine them. So I told General McChrystal that he must finish his task, and that I would not accept his resignation at this time.”

The the General should counter 'negotiate' again with his previous urgent request for the additional 'surge' troops. That our efforts in Afghanistan are too important to let an unfortunate lapse of preparation undermine the great sacrificies of our troops and the American people. The addition of these requested troops will therefore allow us to finish this task.

136 posted on 06/22/2010 2:18:59 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen (It's the 'Land of Opportunity'... NOT... the 'Land of Entitlements'!!!)
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To: Vermont Lt

A lot of people said that about Obama too. >Bo)


137 posted on 06/22/2010 2:20:38 PM PDT by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: DGHoodini

Who blames him for resigning...working for people who don’t give a rip about the troops or the country!


138 posted on 06/22/2010 2:21:03 PM PDT by LUV W (DIMs?......start packin'--you're fired!....I can see November from my house!)
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To: DGHoodini

Still time for a beer summit?

One can only hope.

Why change the head US ‘honcho’ now?


139 posted on 06/22/2010 2:22:12 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: DGHoodini

You don’t get to be a 4-star without knowing how to play the game. He comes from a military family. He was also a Pentagon spokesman. I would say he knew exactly what he was doing.

Given the response, or delayed response, he received to his request for troops, and no doubt little to no communication from the CinC, VPOTUS, US Ambassador, OR the Natl Security Advisor, he assumed his last option was to go public in a way that would grab their attention. They may not read his memos, but they sure read Rolling Stone!

McChrystal was made to execute new Rules of Engagement that put every soldier’s life at risk unnecessarily. At some point, any political aspirations he may have had would have to have been put aside in favor of the troops serving under him. I think for that same reason he hung in as long as he did, rather than resign long ago when it was clear this WH was not behind him or his troops.


140 posted on 06/22/2010 2:23:05 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: rjp2005
Anyone else thinking McChrystal 2012?

Not only no, but hell no.

141 posted on 06/22/2010 2:23:31 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Deb; jacquej

Agreed. Hopeful Good News Bump.

Tatt


142 posted on 06/22/2010 2:24:54 PM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: Dem Guard

No dice. He admittedly voted for Obama (how is he going to explain that while attempting to distinguish himself on policy, specifically domestic). His criticisms, while perhaps valid, could be argued as showing lack of respect for his commander. His record while in Afghanistan, even if not good for other reasons, is still on him and will be used against him. Not the best choice imho.


143 posted on 06/22/2010 2:25:03 PM PDT by Sic Parvis Magna
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To: AmishDude
If his “background comments” were what he truly believed, he should have resigned months ago.

I have a problem with that. What if McChrystal really wanted/tried to change the system and the policies from within? Should he give and abandon the troops he's fighting for?

Wouldn't a resignation months ago have simply allowed Obama to install another sycophant general?

Once he resigns/is fired he becomes an outsider with a grudge. Saying these things while in command cannot be hidden.

My problem is with his apology.

144 posted on 06/22/2010 2:25:52 PM PDT by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: EDINVA

That maybe the case, but violating the UCMJ was a dumb way to do it. It’s not good for those below to see the people at the top violating the UCMJ.


145 posted on 06/22/2010 2:25:56 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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I don’t know what to think of the webbot project, but if memory serves, the early report from this year called for something like this and said it was an “important temporal marker” or something along those lines.

Also called for some sort of major coastal event before Deepwater Horizon blew up.

Hmmm.


146 posted on 06/22/2010 2:27:27 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: kcvl

The Japanese officers used to commit seppuku to save honor.

Here.. they insult the Pres__ent.. and get fired. a kinder gentler regime.

Sooo.. We lose another battlefield warrior .. but on a different kind of battlefield .. one not founded in reality these days but in submission and commitment to his orders.

Waging Peace in Afghanistan is Hell, the General joins a throng of those who came before him.


147 posted on 06/22/2010 2:27:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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To: mlizzy; Squantos; CodeToad; hiredhand; river rat; Lurker; Eaker; Black Agnes; maica
Thanks for the Rolling Stone link. Everybody should read this.

The general's staff is a handpicked collection of killers, spies, geniuses, patriots, political operators and outright maniacs. There's a former head of British Special Forces, two Navy SEALs, an Afghan Special Forces commando, a lawyer, two fighter pilots and at least two dozen combat veterans and counterinsurgency experts. They jokingly refer to themselves as Team America, taking the name from the South Park-esque sendup of military cluelessness, and they pride themselves on their can-do attitude and their disdain for authority. After arriving in Kabul last summer, Team America set about changing the culture of the International Security Assistance Force, as the NATO-led mission is known. (U.S. soldiers had taken to deriding ISAF as short for "I Suck at Fighting" or "In Sandals and Flip-Flops.") McChrystal banned alcohol on base, kicked out Burger King and other symbols of American excess, expanded the morning briefing to include thousands of officers and refashioned the command center into a Situational Awareness Room, a free-flowing information hub modeled after Mayor Mike Bloomberg's offices in New York. He also set a manic pace for his staff, becoming legendary for sleeping four hours a night, running seven miles each morning, and eating one meal a day. (In the month I spend around the general, I witness him eating only once.) It's a kind of superhuman narrative that has built up around him, a staple in almost every media profile, as if the ability to go without sleep and food translates into the possibility of a man single-handedly winning the war. By midnight at Kitty O'Shea's, much of Team America is completely shitfaced. Two officers do an Irish jig mixed with steps from a traditional Afghan wedding dance, while McChrystal's top advisers lock arms and sing a slurred song of their own invention. "Afghanistan!" they bellow. "Afghanistan!" They call it their Afghanistan song. McChrystal steps away from the circle, observing his team. "All these men," he tells me. "I'd die for them. And they'd die for me."

148 posted on 06/22/2010 2:29:29 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: AmishDude
McChrystal may be free to opine if he is no longer in the chain of command.

You can guarantee it's a factor for Zero accepting his resignation.

149 posted on 06/22/2010 2:30:32 PM PDT by Track9 (A good education is knowing what truly sets you free.. and then crushing liberals with it)
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To: DGHoodini

I’ll bet a paper nickel on it....


150 posted on 06/22/2010 2:30:52 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I lived in VT for four years. That was enough.)
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