Skip to comments.Breaking: Joe Klein on CNN just said McChrystal has submitted his resignation!
Posted on 06/22/2010 1:25:38 PM PDT by DGHoodini
Time author on CNN stated a WH source told him that McChrystal has submitted his resignation, but Obama has not yet accepted it.
Anyone else thinking McChrystal 2012?
In the article by Michael Hastings, an aide describes McChrystal as “disappointed” by his first Oval Office meeting with President Barack Obama, whom he considered unprepared. It goes on to say that even though McChrystal voted for Obama, the two never clicked. And McChrystal is quoted as saying that he found it “painful” when the president reprimanded him last fall for speaking openly about his desire for more troops in Afghanistan.
“BTW: Servicemen should not publically disagree with policy - they are taught to respect the office [if not the man]. If feeling compelled to speak out - they should resign first. They are then free to speak their minds ...”
My son is in the Marines. When he volunteered to meet Michelle, his CO declined the offer, mumbling something about “we don’t need THAT kind of trouble...”
All one really needs to know is whether or not he voted for Obama. If he did, it shows that McChrystal could not identify a mortal threat to our country that was staring him in the face.
If he did not vote for Obama, he deserves to be fired for allowing his aides to talk to god forsaken Rolling Stone magazine. In bars.
I'm sorry, but either way, McChrystal is a fool, his military credentials notwithstanding.
I don't think so. He has apparently told people that he voted for Obama.
If he were to decide to run, this shouldn't be too much of an issue ... remember, Reagan was a registered Democrat until he saw the light.
I believe it. His last option...shine a light on these incompetents and walk out the door.
Been rooting for Gen Stan until I read that he voted for Obama??? If this is true than he really is not fit for office. Now I do not know that it is true, but if he voted for Barry to be the Commander In Chief, than I cant respect him???
I think the plan was not fire McChrystal but to publicly castrate him in DC and then send him back to the war as obama’s eunuch. We will see what happens now.
If Zero does not accept the resignation does that mean he has to kiss McCrystal’s ass?
They may all be radical leftists (well, not McChrystal) but maybe they have realized that Obama’s agenda is different from theirs. I’m sure the reason that wierdo leftist Rahm is leaving is because he’s the son of an Israeli general and is getting a little bothered by Bambi’s pro-Muslim anti-Israel stance.
Rahm probably thought at one point that he could use Obama, but I think that he - and maybe others - have seen the light now and realize that Bambi, dumb as he is, has all the power and is going on his own course with our country.
He can say that he's gay - after all, DADT is still in effect, right?
Dont expect any grand attack on Obama or the Rules of Engagement from General McChrystal just because he steps down or retires. Officers commissions last for the officers lifetimes. They are subject to recall until death and are subject to the UCMJ until death.
If General McChrystal gets too outspoken he will find himself in command of a radar station in Iceland or a weather station in Antarctica.
Wow.. There was a caller on Hannity’s radio show just a little while ago who predicted exactly this. He said McChrystal should resign, and make Ubama accept it. He said Ubama would prefer to keep McChrystal on because he’s a convenient whipping boy, a name to pin defeat on when the war goes totally south. If some new guy replaced McChrystal, the war would be all Ubama’s.
LE, the Whitehouse appears to be unraveling before our eyes.
Obama has "spillage" everywhere. This has been a very bad day for Obama, but perhaps a better day for America.
So does this mean the meeting is off ? If not then at the meeting Mcrystal should ask Obama for his resignation too...
Why did this guy vote for him?
You have to wonder why any general would vote for the usurper.
Are you saying an officer can’t resign his commission?
“If some new guy replaced McChrystal, the war would be all Ubamas.”
Right, but he "saw the light" some 30 years before he was elected to the presidency as a Republican. Yes, Reagan didn't formally change his party registration until sometime before the run in 1968, but he only publicly endorsed Republican presidential candidates beginning with Eisenhower.
yes I know I said than, I meant then, I am getting old.. LOL
He is saving that defense force to deal with the Crackers...
No, He van send him back to Afghanistan so that all deaths caused by the WH’s murderous ROE, can be blamed on him instead of Obama and his ‘Rats in the WH and the State Dept, and their half assed ‘Medal of “Restraint”’(?).
I’ve never held a high-level job, so I can’t be for sure, but it seems that folks like cabinet members, military chiefs and so forth are asked to put up a signed, undated resignation when they take the job.
That way the boss can use it anytime he wants. Does that make sense?
Would resigning his commission make him lose his retirement? You get paid for what you have done, not what you can do.
I know that Generals cannot really retire and are subject to recall.
First, a judge lifted the moratorium on offshore drilling, and now this. Obonehead is getting really wee-weed up.
I know a bunch of field grade officers that are leaving before they would have. Just tired of it....wink, wink...
Meeting still on.
As I understand it he can resign his commission but cannot get away from it by retiring. If he resigns his commission he loses his retirement pay and benefits.
That will never, ever happen. Not in a million years.
Is Joe Klein a trusted source?
Obama and the lying filth that run the “Mainstream” were able to fool a *lot* of people.
But they can’t fool all of the people all of the time.
About this puzzle palace we can only guess. It is possible that McChrystal read the statement by the Egyptian Foreign Minister in Reuters or Al Jazzera last week where the Minister assured his world that Obama had told him he is still a faithful Muslim, and asked the minister to wait a bit longer to see the proof. Whatever Obama has in mind, military officers and the judiciary are complicit. We already know that Eric Holder would hire Khalid Sheik Mohammad on the spot if he weren't tied up with some minor legal matter in New York. My guess is that McChrystal has seen enough of his soldiers die executing the political ambitions of a gaggle of committed Marxists, who will live like kings when they control the petroleum reserves of the world. If McChrystal thinks he can pacify the Muslim citizenry I recommend that he read Hirsi Ali or Wafa Sultan. (Sultan believes that only a Saudi King can reform Islam.) It is
Don’t think so, there is not going to be a 2012 election. I gaurentee it!
Refuse McChrystals resignation. The general is a man of honor, and no idiot. Theres a good chance hell show up in Washington with a resignation letter in hand. President Obama could refuse it, and then go to the public and say something like, our efforts in Afghanistan are too important to let an unfortunate lapse of judgment like this undermine them. So I told General McChrystal that he must finish his task, and that I would not accept his resignation at this time.
The the General should counter 'negotiate' again with his previous urgent request for the additional 'surge' troops. That our efforts in Afghanistan are too important to let an unfortunate lapse of preparation undermine the great sacrificies of our troops and the American people. The addition of these requested troops will therefore allow us to finish this task.
A lot of people said that about Obama too. >Bo)
Who blames him for resigning...working for people who don’t give a rip about the troops or the country!
Still time for a beer summit?
One can only hope.
Why change the head US ‘honcho’ now?
You don’t get to be a 4-star without knowing how to play the game. He comes from a military family. He was also a Pentagon spokesman. I would say he knew exactly what he was doing.
Given the response, or delayed response, he received to his request for troops, and no doubt little to no communication from the CinC, VPOTUS, US Ambassador, OR the Natl Security Advisor, he assumed his last option was to go public in a way that would grab their attention. They may not read his memos, but they sure read Rolling Stone!
McChrystal was made to execute new Rules of Engagement that put every soldier’s life at risk unnecessarily. At some point, any political aspirations he may have had would have to have been put aside in favor of the troops serving under him. I think for that same reason he hung in as long as he did, rather than resign long ago when it was clear this WH was not behind him or his troops.
Not only no, but hell no.
Agreed. Hopeful Good News Bump.
No dice. He admittedly voted for Obama (how is he going to explain that while attempting to distinguish himself on policy, specifically domestic). His criticisms, while perhaps valid, could be argued as showing lack of respect for his commander. His record while in Afghanistan, even if not good for other reasons, is still on him and will be used against him. Not the best choice imho.
I have a problem with that. What if McChrystal really wanted/tried to change the system and the policies from within? Should he give and abandon the troops he's fighting for?
Wouldn't a resignation months ago have simply allowed Obama to install another sycophant general?
Once he resigns/is fired he becomes an outsider with a grudge. Saying these things while in command cannot be hidden.
My problem is with his apology.
That maybe the case, but violating the UCMJ was a dumb way to do it. It’s not good for those below to see the people at the top violating the UCMJ.
I don’t know what to think of the webbot project, but if memory serves, the early report from this year called for something like this and said it was an “important temporal marker” or something along those lines.
Also called for some sort of major coastal event before Deepwater Horizon blew up.
The Japanese officers used to commit seppuku to save honor.
Here.. they insult the Pres__ent.. and get fired. a kinder gentler regime.
Sooo.. We lose another battlefield warrior .. but on a different kind of battlefield .. one not founded in reality these days but in submission and commitment to his orders.
Waging Peace in Afghanistan is Hell, the General joins a throng of those who came before him.
The general's staff is a handpicked collection of killers, spies, geniuses, patriots, political operators and outright maniacs. There's a former head of British Special Forces, two Navy SEALs, an Afghan Special Forces commando, a lawyer, two fighter pilots and at least two dozen combat veterans and counterinsurgency experts. They jokingly refer to themselves as Team America, taking the name from the South Park-esque sendup of military cluelessness, and they pride themselves on their can-do attitude and their disdain for authority. After arriving in Kabul last summer, Team America set about changing the culture of the International Security Assistance Force, as the NATO-led mission is known. (U.S. soldiers had taken to deriding ISAF as short for "I Suck at Fighting" or "In Sandals and Flip-Flops.") McChrystal banned alcohol on base, kicked out Burger King and other symbols of American excess, expanded the morning briefing to include thousands of officers and refashioned the command center into a Situational Awareness Room, a free-flowing information hub modeled after Mayor Mike Bloomberg's offices in New York. He also set a manic pace for his staff, becoming legendary for sleeping four hours a night, running seven miles each morning, and eating one meal a day. (In the month I spend around the general, I witness him eating only once.) It's a kind of superhuman narrative that has built up around him, a staple in almost every media profile, as if the ability to go without sleep and food translates into the possibility of a man single-handedly winning the war. By midnight at Kitty O'Shea's, much of Team America is completely shitfaced. Two officers do an Irish jig mixed with steps from a traditional Afghan wedding dance, while McChrystal's top advisers lock arms and sing a slurred song of their own invention. "Afghanistan!" they bellow. "Afghanistan!" They call it their Afghanistan song. McChrystal steps away from the circle, observing his team. "All these men," he tells me. "I'd die for them. And they'd die for me."
You can guarantee it's a factor for Zero accepting his resignation.
I’ll bet a paper nickel on it....