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Breaking: Joe Klein on CNN just said McChrystal has submitted his resignation!
CNN Blitzer interview | Tuesday, June 22, 2010 | DGHoodini

Posted on 06/22/2010 1:25:38 PM PDT by DGHoodini

Time author on CNN stated a WH source told him that McChrystal has submitted his resignation, but Obama has not yet accepted it.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; mcchristal; mcchrystal; obama; resignation
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To: DGHoodini

Good for the man with the nads!

I would trust this man with my life.


201 posted on 06/22/2010 3:17:50 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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To: SUSSA
I didn't say the were not completely "private citizens". However, they have run for presidential office criticizing incumbent presidents while they were generals. General McClellan who was still on active duty when he ran against President Lincoln.I showed you proof where General Valley has recently criticized Obama in my post above to you. Generals in retirement still have the same First Amendment rights that you and I have.

Perhaps you know more about the subject than Col. Bracknell.

Apparently, that rule is not set in stone and they have and do criticized presidents in and out of uniform. Perhaps Col. Bracknell should rethink his position or you have misinterpreted it.

202 posted on 06/22/2010 3:21:01 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Travis McGee

From this author’s profile of McChrystal, he seems to be a Mitch Rapp sort of warrior. (and so do the rest of Team America.)

Tomorrow will be a very interesting day in the life of McC and Obama.


203 posted on 06/22/2010 3:25:49 PM PDT by maica (Freedom consists not in doing what we like,but in having the right to do what we ought. John Paul II)
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To: chemicalman

LBJ was CIC for me. Obama almost makes him look good.
(now I’m going to wash my hands after typing that)


204 posted on 06/22/2010 3:28:35 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: DGHoodini
While the speculation about this incident is certainly interesting, I think our whole focus should be on what is best for our men and women fighting in Afghanistan and for victory in that country. Our progress there has been purchased at the cost of many lives and the consequences of failure there are too terrible to contemplate. Given our soft approach to the Middle East, Iran, Russia, etc., a failure in Afghanistan, at the hands of Islamic extremists would be the most devastating in our history. We must win there and the fate and ego of any particular person - be he the commander on the ground or the commander in chief should be secondary to the goal of victory.
205 posted on 06/22/2010 3:30:05 PM PDT by americanophile (November can't come fast enough....)
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To: Deb

He may be able to do more good outside the military, being able to speak freely. He may be able to try and change the ROE or as I think of them, Rules of Unengagement. Winning in Kandahar will be very costly under them. Prayers for our troops, from top to bottom.


206 posted on 06/22/2010 3:36:14 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: rjp2005

Anyone and everyone who voted for O or thought about it is an absolute NO.


207 posted on 06/22/2010 3:38:29 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Red Steel

Their ability to criticize the CIC is at the CIC’s discretion. Any time the officer gets too much notice the CIC can pull the plug. The way Obama handles McChrystal will signal how much he’s willing to take from retired flag officers. If he bitch-slaps the General don’t expect others to step up and go after him

Their ability to retain their retirement benefits and criticize the CIC is limited to what the CIC is willing to allow.


208 posted on 06/22/2010 3:39:50 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: equalitybeforethelaw

Like how he voted for him and loved him and still does?

Don’t expect McChrystal to start bashing Obama.


209 posted on 06/22/2010 3:44:40 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache (Obama is Dangerclown The Manchild)
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To: NavyCanDo

His book will expose the REGIME for what it is . . .


210 posted on 06/22/2010 3:47:05 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: americanophile

I thoroughly agree. As I stated in earlier threads, I think that McChrystal is the ‘Canary in Obama’s Afghan “coal mine”’.


211 posted on 06/22/2010 3:53:41 PM PDT by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: Diogenesis

212 posted on 06/22/2010 3:53:45 PM PDT by glock rocks (Wait, what?)
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To: livius
getting a little bothered by Bambi’s pro-Muslim anti-Israel stance.

Do you really believe Rahm didn't know about BHO's stance and all his commie leanings BEFORE the election - we did!
213 posted on 06/22/2010 4:03:37 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: Deb
Why would he abandon his soldiers to “The wimps in the White House” until he absolutely had to?

I've seen this argument. They are hurt either way. By resigning, he shines a light on the administration. Otherwise, they continue to do what they do.

He's not the boss, so the only thing he can do is resign in protest.

I respect him if he truly did it for the troops, but he should have quickly realized that there was no hope.

214 posted on 06/22/2010 4:04:05 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for, it matters who takes office.)
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To: Spaulding

The only places I could anything about that supposed Egyptian report a bout Obama supposedly saying he was a muslim were in blogs of questionable accuracy. One which may have been the original said the wife of the author saw it on “Nile TV.” Reuters etc are bad, but a bit more substantial than that.


215 posted on 06/22/2010 4:04:18 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: Dem Guard

McChrystal voted for Obama. I’m always amazed at the politics of some of these generals. As Rush stated today, “McChrystal is a warrior General rather than an administrative General.”

How can a warrior type General vote for Obama. Patton was a warrior and I’d like to think he would have never voted for the likes of zero.


216 posted on 06/22/2010 4:05:25 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Looking for our Sam Adams)
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To: 353FMG

I like the way you think!


217 posted on 06/22/2010 4:07:12 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: Spok
Did McChrystal plan the whole thing?

I'd say YES. I believe he gave his interview first, so people would hear what he had to say before Oboma had a chance to demonize him once he handed in his resignation.

218 posted on 06/22/2010 4:09:22 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: snippy_about_it
"McChrystal voted for Obama. I’m always amazed at the politics of some of these generals."

Yeah, I suppose some of these guys come from long time democrat union families.

219 posted on 06/22/2010 4:10:01 PM PDT by Dem Guard (Throw the trash out on November 2nd!)
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To: DGHoodini

If this was under Bush, they’d be throwing him a ticker tape parade by now.


220 posted on 06/22/2010 4:10:49 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (George Soros. You mean self described Nazi collaborator George Soros?)
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To: equalitybeforethelaw
Good. After bammy accepts it, McChrystal can speak freely. I am very interested in what he has to say.

I wonder if McChristal will join Oathkeepers?

221 posted on 06/22/2010 4:18:18 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. MLK)
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To: DGHoodini

find artical http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/119236


222 posted on 06/22/2010 4:52:24 PM PDT by jokar (The Church age is the only age man will be able to glorify Christ, http://www.gbible.org)
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To: Spok

Most likely. Now Obama will simply study the resignation, then study possible replacements, then study his studies, then study those studies of studies, then accept, then study possible replacements, then run for reelection and lose.


223 posted on 06/22/2010 4:55:22 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( Two-state solution: A bad idea whose time has gone.)
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To: DGHoodini
The military members in Afghanistan won't miss him one bit.

He was a 1st class jerk, and his Rules of Engagement (ROE) were a joke. They got people killed.

His banning of the little creature comforts from home the troops had (i.e. Burger King, Pizza Hut) was petty, stupid, and out of line.

He had a staff of "yes boss" synchophants who worshiped him - which is dangerous and wrong. I have seen flag officers who surround themselves with courtiers, and it is literally a lethal combination (lethal for the front line folks that is).

He also told Rolling Stone that he was a proud Obama voter.

Good riddance. I agree with a retired 3 star general who knew McChrystal - and said he was surprised it took this long for McChrystal to implode.

224 posted on 06/22/2010 4:58:20 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: DGHoodini

Beginning to look like el 0 should fire him! Seeing how he voted for the loser.


225 posted on 06/22/2010 5:04:18 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Where is our military?)
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To: SkyPilot

“He had a staff of “yes boss” synchophants who worshiped him - which is dangerous and wrong. I have seen flag officers who surround themselves with courtiers, and it is literally a lethal combination (lethal for the front line folks that is)”.

Exactly. I worked around some general officers, and their cadre of butt kissing yes men and women was insane. The down side of being a butt kissing officer is that if you hitch yourself to the stars, and if the stars go down, so do you in most cases.

In a way, it’s justice. If a general officer cannot tell the real from the adoration of “I am here for my career, and I will do or say anything to help that along”, then he or she is lost. I sort of know what those O-6 and below are thinking right now, and I have no sympathy for them or for McChrystal. The best officers were always and still those that understood the troops and acted accordingly.


226 posted on 06/22/2010 5:11:24 PM PDT by alarm rider (The left will always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
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To: SkyPilot

If he did indeed vote for Obama, as he has supposedly admitted, then I question his judgement. If he’s lying about it, then I question his integrity.


227 posted on 06/22/2010 5:31:06 PM PDT by Robert Lomax
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To: maica

I have an odd read on this. McChrytal is a brilliant mind, but he’s a messiah of this “Peace Corps Special Forces” school. Don’t shoot. Take a bullet, but don’t shoot. To this end, he surrounded him with like-minded men, mainly also also True Believers in the New COIN.

So this philosophy relates to his “trusting” the RS reporter. He believes he can WIN OVER the reporter, by showing how open, unrestricted, peace-corps-ish, great guys we are. Then the reporter will understand us, and he will want to help us, and h will write an overall favorable article.

IOW, McCrystal is a hopeless naif in this situation, and thus probably also in his “war of hearts” for the Afghan people against the Taliban.

Which since the other side knows darn well we’ll be GONE in 4 or 5 years max, all they have to do is keep up a little bleeding of American troops and wait us out.

ALso knowing that the Taliban will outlast the Americans, only foolish Afghans will help the Americans, and risk later Viet-Cong type night visits or worse later. Beheading for starts.


228 posted on 06/22/2010 6:04:20 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: DGHoodini

Let the fun begin.


229 posted on 06/22/2010 6:06:36 PM PDT by b4its2late (Why does a slight tax increase cost you $200 and a substantial tax cut save you 30 cents?)
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To: alarm rider

Amen X 1,000. You truly “get it.” It’s refreshing to see such clear thinking about a special realm few Americans can imagine.

Yes men are poison to flag rank officers, but few can resist them when they are SO darn good at subtle sub-rosa flattery that is not even recognized as such.

It takes a sterner heart to deliberately put men under him who will respectfully disagree and say so.


230 posted on 06/22/2010 6:07:26 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: alarm rider

What’s your take on 228?


231 posted on 06/22/2010 6:09:01 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: DGHoodini

I just have one thing to say about this. I am not going to defend McChrystal because someone that would vote for Obama or Hillary isn’t the brightest bulb out there.

Loose Lips Sink Ships


232 posted on 06/22/2010 6:16:51 PM PDT by BlessingsofLiberty (Obama: "President Tarball" (chris37))
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To: Travis McGee

Excellent points, all of them. Not an “odd” read at all, IMO.


233 posted on 06/22/2010 6:21:13 PM PDT by zzeeman (Fighting to not be the amongst the last generation to enjoy Freedom & Liberty!)
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To: DGHoodini
McChrystal sounds like he was a McMixed Bag.

On one hand it looked like he was a "warrior" general, not a political general, who literally fought with his troops and more about their welfare than his next star (I think).

On the other hand, his convoluted “Bushesque” strategy of "counterinsurgency” (COIN) with its confused goals and roles of the military and attendant rules of engagement put our troops' life, limb, and morale at risk.

234 posted on 06/22/2010 6:33:55 PM PDT by Jim 0216
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To: Travis McGee
Travis,

Not an odd read. If you recall general officers like Powell you have the type.

General officers like Powell learned the game in a different set of circumstances. When it came down to being a soldier, he deferred to his instinct to be a political general first and foremost, then to pander to whatever side he thought looked the best in the long run. Powell as I understand it also played the race card to get his way.

McChrystal is a different animal, and your assessment of his “ability” to win over any reporter tells me that he had a staff guy whispering in his ear that he could do no wrong. In effect, he started to believe his own press.

In my experience, general officers who do not do a self analysis ever so often tend to believe that they are as great and monumental as their staff officers tell them they are.

The Romans employed people to tell the generals as they paraded their war prizes that “All glory is fleeting”, and so it is true.

On the positive side, if the stuff really hits the fan, history tells us that men will rise to the occasion, not men like McChrystal, not men like Powell, not men like Shinseki, but men like Patton.

Just my take.

Regards,
AR

235 posted on 06/22/2010 6:35:59 PM PDT by alarm rider (The left will always tell you who they fear the most. What are they telling you now?)
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To: DGHoodini
Dear Barack Mohammed

Take this job and shove it up your Kenyan born hole..... I dont work here anymore.

236 posted on 06/22/2010 6:38:35 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: STARWISE

My bet is on the later...20 something groupie speechwriter is hung over from playing beer pong.


237 posted on 06/22/2010 6:49:22 PM PDT by penelopesire ("Did you plug the hole yet daddy?")
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To: Travis McGee

So this philosophy relates to his “trusting” the RS reporter. He believes he can WIN OVER the reporter, by showing how open, unrestricted, peace-corps-ish, great guys we are. Then the reporter will understand us, and he will want to help us, and he will write an overall favorable article.

@@@@@

1) This philosophy could also explain how he could cast a vote for Obama.

2) Taking a reporter on a pub night with his senior staff has to be the stupidest thing he ever did.


238 posted on 06/22/2010 7:08:04 PM PDT by maica (Freedom consists not in doing what we like,but in having the right to do what we ought. John Paul II)
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To: Senator_Blutarski

Very good!


239 posted on 06/22/2010 7:11:28 PM PDT by Palladin (Commodore Obama: "Damn the Constitution. Full speed ahead!")
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To: mlizzy
McChrystal's new marching orders have caused an intense backlash among his own troops. Being told to hold their fire, soldiers complain, puts them in greater danger. "Bottom line?" says a former Special Forces operator who has spent years in Iraq and Afghanistan. "I would love to kick McChrystal in the nuts. His rules of engagement put soldiers' lives in even greater danger. Every real soldier will tell you the same thing."...

But they are especially angered by Ingram's death. His commanders had repeatedly requested permission to tear down the house where Ingram was killed, noting that it was often used as a combat position by the Taliban. But due to McChrystal's new restrictions to avoid upsetting civilians, the request had been denied. "These were abandoned houses," fumes Staff Sgt. Kennith Hicks. "Nobody was coming back to live in them."

If this is good for McChrystal, what would bad look like?

Cui Bono?

240 posted on 06/22/2010 7:12:11 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Ronbo1948
Arizona secedes from the Union. Texas follows... 23 additional southern & western states join Texas and Arizona...

The New Confederate States of America declared with capital at Atlanta...

The Second U.S. Civil War breaks out when Confederate forces seize federal military bases...

Looks like I'll be moving west soon!

241 posted on 06/22/2010 7:26:35 PM PDT by Palladin (Commodore Obama: "Damn the Constitution. Full speed ahead!")
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To: PghBaldy; Spaulding
The only places I could anything about that supposed Egyptian report a bout Obama supposedly saying he was a muslim were in blogs of questionable accuracy. One which may have been the original said the wife of the author saw it on “Nile TV.” Reuters etc are bad, but a bit more substantial than that.

The original source is the May issue of the magazine "Israel Today"; a link to a PDF version of the magazine is at the magazine's website: http://www.israeltoday.co.il/Portals/0/May2010.pdf.

The article in question is on page 12, and is entitled Obama and the Muslim Agenda. The relevant quote appears at the bottom of the first column, and continues tp the top of the second:

My wife Rachel, who monitors Arab language broadcasts for Israel Radio, picked up a revealing statement on the “Round Table Show” on Egypt’s Nile TV. Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit said he had a one-on-one meeting with Obama, who told him that he was a Muslim, the son of a Muslim father and stepson of Muslim stepfather, that his half-brothers in Kenya were Muslims, and that he was sympathetic to the Muslim agenda. He asked the Arabs to show patience. Obama promised that once he overcame some domestic American issues (like healthcare reform), he would show the Muslim world how he would deal with Israel.

Pro-Arab, so-called Christian presidents are one thing. But how concerned should we be if the US President is a Muslim who is loyal to the Muslim agenda to isolate and weaken Israel? When the Palestinians talk about nothing but war with Israel and its annihilation, and the president of what was our strongest ally backs their demands for a state with Jerusalem as its capital, and adheres to the same faith, should we not be warning the American public?


242 posted on 06/22/2010 7:38:39 PM PDT by snowsislander (In this election year, please ask your candidates if they support repeal of the 1968 GCA.)
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To: Travis McGee

Also, it is no coincidence that this article is in the issue on the stands at the beginning of summer — when the Kandahar offensive is scheduled to really get going.

It is open sabotage, if that is not an oxymoron.


243 posted on 06/22/2010 7:43:32 PM PDT by maica (Freedom consists not in doing what we like,but in having the right to do what we ought. John Paul II)
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To: SUSSA
It didn’t work out well for Billy Mitchell.

Perhaps Mitchell saw the future of the nation, and the lives of the members of the US military, as more important than his career.

244 posted on 06/22/2010 7:49:25 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Pat Caddell: Democrats are drinking kool-aid in a political Jonestown)
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To: alarm rider

I don’t see things hitting the fan to extent that a president would be forced to choose a Grant or a Patton today. Too many rough edges. Smoking cigars, drinking whiskey and slapping soldiers? Not in today’s PC Army. Those guys are removed long before Colonel today.


245 posted on 06/22/2010 8:01:31 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: maica

Especially a staff that has spent a few months (on the average) in a muslim country with no girl-flesh visible, and no beer or booze or clubs.

Match, meet fuse. Human nature. ANd a bunch of wild “snake eater” types like SEALs and fighter pilots?

What did they think the reporter would see? Mother MaCrae’s Ladies Tea Party?


246 posted on 06/22/2010 8:03:37 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: glock rocks

It’s coming.

We should have listened to the Russian generals who said it was insane to wage war in Afghanistan.


247 posted on 06/22/2010 8:20:56 PM PDT by Palladin (Commodore Obama: "Damn the Constitution. Full speed ahead!")
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
It didn’t work out well for Billy Mitchell.

Perhaps Mitchell saw the future of the nation, and the lives of the members of the US military, as more important than his career.

And Mitchell was right - when asked at his court martial who would attack us, he said the Japanese at Pearl Harbor [from the air]. When asked when, he said that he did not know the year - but he'd expect it early on a Sunday morning ...

248 posted on 06/22/2010 10:46:44 PM PDT by Lmo56
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To: snowsislander
Thanks for the citation snowsislander. I'd seen it on several web sites, but didn't know there were archives of reports. I believe my source was Haaretz, a left wing Israeli news source, not given to providing ammunition for the anti-Obama majority in Israel or the meat heads in the Diaspora.
249 posted on 06/23/2010 1:04:36 AM PDT by Spaulding
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To: snowsislander
Thanks for the citation snowsislander. I'd seen it on several web sites, but didn't know there were archives of reports. I believe my source was Haaretz, a left wing Israeli news source, not given to providing ammunition for the anti-Obama majority in Israel or the meat heads in the Diaspora.
250 posted on 06/23/2010 1:04:43 AM PDT by Spaulding
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